[NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.---

[Seedeer]

Hi, I found 2 fraud examples in list 1:
Guy from post (#1212)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4771225#msg4771225

used a hash from my payment (#1180) 0740d57d886a95d3adb0e266debb6b6e011da67bfddbe4f6cd3da5951bb9e5c8 :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4766484#msg4766484

That is the case when the right stakeholder posted message first, but
here's the second example when the fraudster posted hash quicker than his victim:

the right stakeholder (post #1573):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4806906#msg4806906

hash
f360141c11c7eeda49388c4a1af858852db5419ce99c9d760bedfcad98dcd35d

and the fraudster(post #1548):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4805898#msg4805898

I can prove it because only me and my brother have acces to these 2 wallets.
Peace

PS. I marked them with a warning.

I can't believe in what just happened. Both fraudsters got to the stakeholder list using my hash and me with my girlfriend got deleted from the list despite utopianfuture said that I'm on the list and everything's fine. Could you help me here? Shall I send some change to your account to prove I'm right?
Cheers

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[sia331]

Hallo
My name is Kim.Im come from korea.

I just saw my ID without a Y
Could you tell me why?

I sent 0.045 btc  part 2 page 21.
Hash ID: e357a6a4603a23d1b651dc54d2adffaf0eaf98e6fe3bc9749c2cde89e90e7fef

Thanks!

[mikesbmw]

NEM official stakeholder list (before the public auditing).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c#gid=0

From now on we will use this list instead of the previous stakeholder list which will be used for checking references only.

Hi, both my registrations are not on the list: Mikesbmw and Flepper.

Patmast3r okayed both those stakes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450200.msg5175010#msg5175010
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450200.msg5176727#msg5176727

[uccoins]

Hi,

I'm not on the list. I was on the original list without a Y, which I queried earlier in this thread. I was the second person to invest after the initial 'interested' investment posts. My post is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4651630#msg4651630

Acknowledged by utopianfuture here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4651786#msg4651786

My transaction:

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/d4f1f2b91f816df421043b27dc13dfd69821a33a145b12f0e8da9e7facb87664

Not sure why I'm not on the list?

[OvensUnited]

Why is there not a 'y' next to my name on the 4th tab of the Google document (T2 P21-30)?

I made a logo, which should have reserved a stake according to the conditions at that time.

Link here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg4899256#msg4899256

Same thing here, the promotion specified that everyone put the logo in the post. For promotional purpose, your logo is supposed to be seen by everyone looking at the thread.
I never followed outbound link in the thread and I did make some efforts to tell people that they need to put the logo/ memes/ branding resources in the post.

i dont want to sound ungrateful but thats totally unfair

i am sure the condition was to just make a logo, not to post it VISIBLY in the thread..... it was right there! like the other guy said, u should have made it much clearer !!

I know, it's stupid... I was genuinely very excited to be a part of NEM and now it's just not going to happen for some insanely stupid reason. sigh. You could have at least told us for the month or so our posts were up there... I'm pretty sure my name even had a 'y' next to it for ages until a couple of days ago, which means you went out of your way to take my name off the list once you found out.

I am imploring anyone to allow me to have a the stake.

[newNEM]

Hi admins,
Just move my post to this thread and wait for solution.


Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
Today at 04:50:02 PM
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Quote from: newNEM on Today at 04:30:30 PM
Hello admins,

My post was deleted and I have the account anyboy but I forgot the password. Can I create another BTT account for this transaction?


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Quote from: anyboy on February 15, 2014, 05:31:35 AM
Hi,

Send 0.075 to 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ
Block number is 97e51a70b57da5f356ca1f21fee7034a7f33eed2690da0e563e32af673c3977a

Please help to reserve NEM coin.


Hi utopianfuture,
I am anyboy and I login to my email and account anymore.
the account password must be stolen. Can I still get the NEM with this IOP?


If you lose the password to your account, how can I know you are indeed the owner of the account ? you could  bring this post to the complaint thread for reference. After some time if no one claims anyboy stake, then we will try to figure something out.

[futurescape3013]

Please explain why I am not in the final official stakeholder list, even though I've already proved I'm the account owner and cleared by patmas3r (see below). Please also refer to post #215 and #216 of this complaint thread.

My account was marked with 'duplicated hash,' but I've already sent a small charge to prove I'm the original sender (patmas3r processed my complaint and cleared me. He added a small comment, but it would appear that noone was paying attention, and the scammer was added instead!!!).

What's going on? Please help!

Hi Kooream or any other dev,

Please help!  I found my name in the member list marked with 'duplicated hash.'  From Hash Check Thread 1 worksheet, apparently, the same hash was shared by two persons:

passiveagressivegary: 203dadaee8c11ea55068e691445dce201da490e03dd3f1ace77a2c801d8a7ac2
futurescape3013: 203dadaee8c11ea55068e691445dce201da490e03dd3f1ace77a2c801d8a7ac2
(The associating Bitcoin address: 1835urnRWB3mXENBk1E4CdoJmhhkFcTM8P)

To prove that I'm the owner, I've decided to send BTC 0.00013 to the posted NEM address: 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ.

The amount sent by me: 0.00013 BTC
transaction id: 7520d29cccb2010e909806f2472adfdeeb5cdfb528c32e92d439376f878b042a
sent from address: 1835urnRWB3mXENBk1E4CdoJmhhkFcTM8P

Please investigate and resolve the issue for me, please. Thanks in advance!

I've added a comment to the stakeholder list. You'll be cleared for the final list. Thank you for providing proof.

[utopianfuture]

Dear utopianfuture
I dont see my name is in your new doc. but it was in the old doc.
Can you please verify it?

My transaction is below: please verify it and change my status in the Google document.
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/837e64327f7a6e51096be48e6d203361c0f42dd48e9576b9e503df320ed469f0

My original thread is:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg5189110#msg5189110

Kind regards,
Sergey

Done. Listed in changes/ additions.

[utopianfuture]

There isn't a 'y' next to my name... I made a logo for NEM a while back, shouldn't that mean I have a stake? My post is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg4903364#msg4903364

I added a comment to the stakeholder list asking what's up. I can't tell you myself because I wasn't involved back then.

Well in this case, the promotion specified that everyone put the logo in the post. For promotional purpose, your logo is supposed to be seen by everyone looking at the thread.

So I don't get a stake because I linked it to Imgur, instead of posting it in the thread? That seems like a very trivial thing to refuse a stake for... you really didn't make it clear enough that it needed to be posted in the actual post. All your post said was to make a logo, which I did! I'm just annoyed I can't be a part of NEM now because of such a tiny thing. I spent my time and effort thinking about and making the logo.

Is there any way I can persuade you otherwise? I don't want to start a fight, I just really want to be a part of this.

YES, make something for NEM then we will welcome you in. Thanks. (post here when you are done).

[utopianfuture]

I have been waiting for the thread 1 list to be updated for days, but since nothing happened, I'll post here.

N° 1085 on stakeholder list : SlyWax

Thread 1 post :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4787819#msg4787819
transaction ID : b67870e1cc41db2b1539de9fdce6e89365534c4ac0bb5a6ceaac1fc399b2a42c

Please put an Y on front of my name.

Thanks.

Any update on this one ?

Solved. will need to check for duplicate hash though because your hash was edited in on a later date.

Thanks,
however it didn't make it to the Official list for public auditing.

The status in the old list is "check later" but since it's surrounded by "duplicated hash" people it may have been skipped unintentionally.

Can someone check it again and add it to the new list please.

Solved. added in to changes+ additions. thanks for your patience.

[utopianfuture]

          on stakeholder list I am put down as duplicate hash. My hash is first so I dont see how it can be me at fault.
 my number on list is 2749-thread 2.
i sent 1 nxt coin to prove it was my account and transaction number is   2260315738946426351

  I check other guy Knisch on blockchain---he sent 700 nxt after me on another transaction number. I think he put my number down as mistake?

I'll add a comment to the stakeholderlist that you are legit. Thanks for providing proof.

cant see comment after a day.worried I will not be on final list.maybe you not had time yet.? Sorry if your busy.!!!!

Weird. I guess I didn't save the comment or something. Well it's there now. Sorry about that.

Hi , I check final list and no 'tick'. i thought it was solved? Please help!!!!

Every accounts in official list are fine. Sometimes the tick is just missing but that is no issue .

[utopianfuture]

Hi,
i dont no see my name in the list :

but my transaction is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg5074810#msg5074810

Sent 650 NXT

transaction ID :    8292035664283591861

plz help me,
thx you for your work

You are in. check again.

[utopianfuture]

Hallo
My name is Kim.Im come from korea.

I just saw my ID without a Y
Could you tell me why?

I sent 0.045 btc  part 2 page 21.
Hash ID: e357a6a4603a23d1b651dc54d2adffaf0eaf98e6fe3bc9749c2cde89e90e7fef

Thanks!

That's fine. fixed.

[utopianfuture]

NEM official stakeholder list (before the public auditing).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c#gid=0

From now on we will use this list instead of the previous stakeholder list which will be used for checking references only.

Hi, both my registrations are not on the list: Mikesbmw and Flepper.

Patmast3r okayed both those stakes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450200.msg5175010#msg5175010
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450200.msg5176727#msg5176727

case 1

1011   Cliftonny   Y   duplicated hash   2b437119ffcf5ed5de43d7d8fc623dece1119cdd37f21f63ed769ac0b1194311            
1012   mikesbmw   Y   duplicated hash   2b437119ffcf5ed5de43d7d8fc623dece1119cdd37f21f63ed769ac0b1194311   

case 2

1010   Flepper   Y   duplicated hash   df9a45d36c9fd6be4cd7714fc2967f7a801ae8c4d596385934b8049faaf0b3f9         
1002   ShootherMoore   Y   duplicated hash   df9a45d36c9fd6be4cd7714fc2967f7a801ae8c4d596385934b8049faaf0b3f9   

Swapped two position in the official list and made a log in changes/ additions      
         

[utopianfuture]

Please explain why I am not in the final official stakeholder list, even though I've already proved I'm the account owner and cleared by patmas3r (see below). Please also refer to post #215 and #216 of this complaint thread.

My account was marked with 'duplicated hash,' but I've already sent a small charge to prove I'm the original sender (patmas3r processed my complaint and cleared me. He added a small comment, but it would appear that noone was paying attention, and the scammer was added instead!!!).

What's going on? Please help!

Hi Kooream or any other dev,

Please help!  I found my name in the member list marked with 'duplicated hash.'  From Hash Check Thread 1 worksheet, apparently, the same hash was shared by two persons:

passiveagressivegary: 203dadaee8c11ea55068e691445dce201da490e03dd3f1ace77a2c801d8a7ac2
futurescape3013: 203dadaee8c11ea55068e691445dce201da490e03dd3f1ace77a2c801d8a7ac2
(The associating Bitcoin address: 1835urnRWB3mXENBk1E4CdoJmhhkFcTM8P)

To prove that I'm the owner, I've decided to send BTC 0.00013 to the posted NEM address: 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ.

The amount sent by me: 0.00013 BTC
transaction id: 7520d29cccb2010e909806f2472adfdeeb5cdfb528c32e92d439376f878b042a
sent from address: 1835urnRWB3mXENBk1E4CdoJmhhkFcTM8P

Please investigate and resolve the issue for me, please. Thanks in advance!

I've added a comment to the stakeholder list. You'll be cleared for the final list. Thank you for providing proof.

Duplicate hash

1090   futurescape3013   Y   duplicated hash   203dadaee8c11ea55068e691445dce201da490e03dd3f1ace77a2c801d8a7ac2            
1063   passiveagressivegary   Y   duplicated hash   203dadaee8c11ea55068e691445dce201da490e03dd3f1ace77a2c801d8a7ac2            

Swap futurescape3013 in and made a log. Sorry for the inconvenience because we have several databases.6

[utopianfuture]

Hi admins,
Just move my post to this thread and wait for solution.


Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
Today at 04:50:02 PM
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Quote from: newNEM on Today at 04:30:30 PM
Hello admins,

My post was deleted and I have the account anyboy but I forgot the password. Can I create another BTT account for this transaction?


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Quote from: anyboy on February 15, 2014, 05:31:35 AM
Hi,

Send 0.075 to 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ
Block number is 97e51a70b57da5f356ca1f21fee7034a7f33eed2690da0e563e32af673c3977a

Please help to reserve NEM coin.


Hi utopianfuture,
I am anyboy and I login to my email and account anymore.
the account password must be stolen. Can I still get the NEM with this IOP?


If you lose the password to your account, how can I know you are indeed the owner of the account ? you could  bring this post to the complaint thread for reference. After some time if no one claims anyboy stake, then we will try to figure something out.

I have a solution but you have to wait after until the refund period begins.

[utopianfuture]

Hi,

I'm not on the list. I was on the original list without a Y, which I queried earlier in this thread. I was the second person to invest after the initial 'interested' investment posts. My post is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4651630#msg4651630

Acknowledged by utopianfuture here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4651786#msg4651786

My transaction:

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/d4f1f2b91f816df421043b27dc13dfd69821a33a145b12f0e8da9e7facb87664

Not sure why I'm not on the list?

Solved. see log in changes/ additions.

[utopianfuture]

Why is there not a 'y' next to my name on the 4th tab of the Google document (T2 P21-30)?

I made a logo, which should have reserved a stake according to the conditions at that time.

Link here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg4899256#msg4899256

Same thing here, the promotion specified that everyone put the logo in the post. For promotional purpose, your logo is supposed to be seen by everyone looking at the thread.
I never followed outbound link in the thread and I did make some efforts to tell people that they need to put the logo/ memes/ branding resources in the post.

i dont want to sound ungrateful but thats totally unfair

i am sure the condition was to just make a logo, not to post it VISIBLY in the thread..... it was right there! like the other guy said, u should have made it much clearer !!

I know, it's stupid... I was genuinely very excited to be a part of NEM and now it's just not going to happen for some insanely stupid reason. sigh. You could have at least told us for the month or so our posts were up there... I'm pretty sure my name even had a 'y' next to it for ages until a couple of days ago, which means you went out of your way to take my name off the list once you found out.

I am imploring anyone to allow me to have a the stake.

Let make something else for NEM and I will add you in. Thanks.

[skylartomstrom]

Hi utopianfuture,

I just noticed my name was not in the final list.  As you can see, I was one of stakeholders who got marked with duplicated hash.  But my registration was approved by patmas3r after I sent in a small bitcoin charge to prove my identity.

please see the following post (there are multiple posts on that page made by me and patmas3r) --

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450200.msg5216283#msg5216283

Could you please add my name in and remove the fraudster's ID please?

Thanks for your help. 

[utopianfuture]

Excuse me, I send you a Pm with a few bitcoin with my bitcointalk id  because  in the list
of shareholder i have a note with duplicated hash, please modify this error.


https://blockchain.info/es/tx/f5c403a08d5b8dfd5227eb64483caf3608535f3577b5c54d20de6e96704d8c77

I'll add a comment to the stakeholderlist. Thanks for providing proof.

duplicate hash

1345   FotonBumm   Y   duplicated hash   2007a34ca9c7d86542089f727fb336de342f71b810657126fa127ccbe65bae68            
1362   mikehoward   Y   duplicated hash   2007a34ca9c7d86542089f727fb336de342f71b810657126fa127ccbe65bae68            

swapped mikehoward with FotonBumm and made a log. Sorry for the inconvenience. Different databases and the sheet is huge. Proof of Burn do have some merits.