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February 05, 2014, 04:30:31 PM
Last edit: February 08, 2014, 06:26:27 PM by Sw|ft
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Hello guys, recently ive been testing out fast-pool.com over a period of almost a week.
When looking at some numbers i thought id share my results with you guys.
Coinwarz estimates my rewards to be around 27k - 31k doge a day, i know that these amounts are variable so i thought id test it over a longer period of time to check if it was equal.

Every day i tested out fast-pool i ended up with a result at 19-20k a results thats aroudn 30% less than i normally have. I had the same result every day +-1000~


This result was very disappointing even though the pool does not apply fees (which also may ring a bell that even though a pool this big can survive on donations i would ask myself why runa  pool this big when they can charge 1% which nobody would really care about and earn more)

Anyways so when i was finished with this test i started testing out Netcodepool, and ive been testing them for two days now and every time here i actually ended around 28-30k which i must say is impressive, which then again also gave me an indication that something fishy mightve been going on with fast-pool so i started looking deeper.

When looking at the Block Stats for both these pools there are something that differs quite alot, which corresponds with the percentage i lost using fast-pool

https://i.imgur.com/ApcAIPC.png

Looking at this screenshot you can see how long in percentage it usually takes for each pool to find a block.
Netcodepool has almost equal to 100% which is not bad at all
But when looking at Fast-Pool you can see that this pool actually ALWAYS ends on 125%+++

This made me thing, does the pool scam? It seems to me or ofcourse i could be entirely wrong but it might seem to me that lets say the pool finds 7-8 blocks than it does not report the next as found and just continues on and that this reward goes right into the pool owners pocket...


Please respond and tell me what you think of this, i do find this very alarming and i will continue using NetCodePool from now on as this pool seems to be more legit/accurate even though it takes 2% fee i end up on very close to the amount i am supposed to get every time



EDIT: Please read the whole first page in this thread to view how the "most likely" admins registering on this site under new accounts making threats and skiddish behaviour. It's quite interesting to read as you'll get quite a good explanation of what kind of kids are behind the wheel at Fast-Pool. Even this behaviour would make me avoid this pool at all costs.


Have a good day people, hope this helps your earnings Smiley
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February 05, 2014, 04:36:15 PM
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good observation..... except one thing: this is bitcoin discussion forum. Go to your scamcoin's forums and post there.
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February 05, 2014, 05:51:05 PM
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This is what i like to see.
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February 05, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
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That is a reason to avoid the pool, but not evidence of a scam. It could be geographic location, low bandwidth, bad configuration, etc...

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February 05, 2014, 06:17:51 PM
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That is a reason to avoid the pool, but not evidence of a scam. It could be geographic location, low bandwidth, bad configuration, etc...

I've set up quite a few pools my self with and without MPOS, wallets etc, you name it. So, bad configuration, i hardly believe that's even possible.
Low bandwidth, i doubt that too because this would give an indication on our Rejected shares that job's not found.

Im not saying they scam as i got no proof but if i was gonna place a bet on it i would most likely win.
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February 05, 2014, 06:20:11 PM
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That is a reason to avoid the pool, but not evidence of a scam. It could be geographic location, low bandwidth, bad configuration, etc...

I've set up quite a few pools my self with and without MPOS, wallets etc, you name it. So, bad configuration, i hardly believe that's even possible.
Low bandwidth, i doubt that too because this would give an indication on our Rejected shares that job's not found.

Im not saying they scam as i got no proof but if i was gonna place a bet on it i would most likely win.
I see. I don't intend to distract from your investigation. I'm pretty sure that some pools DO scam. Please carry on.

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February 05, 2014, 06:30:02 PM
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you did?
links ? proofs?
all i can see you registered 12 days ago...so you learned about mining everyting in this 2 weeks?


just post something that you are experienced not just a netcode fanboy.

 you are noob here.

in every big pool you can find moment like that...

1.5 wallet is a dissaster did you know that?

new stratum is a dissaser did you know that?

stats are stored in plain text easy to edit did you know that?

dogecoin network and stratums directly are ddodsed by someone with 200gbit+ botnet did you know that?

NO.....you know why?

couse you dont own 10-20gh/s pool Smiley

for me you are just a next Netcodepool advertise boy like this ajax kid...how many dogecoin did they give you to create account and post shit about biggest pools? 10 100?

post you dogecoin adress and i will donate you some too.
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February 05, 2014, 06:39:46 PM
Last edit: February 06, 2014, 01:07:05 AM by Sw|ft
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you did?
links ? proofs?
all i can see you registered 12 days ago...so you learned about mining everyting in this 2 weeks?


just post something that you are experienced not just a netcode fanboy.

 you are noob here.

in every big pool you can find moment like that...

1.5 wallet is a dissaster did you know that?

new stratum is a dissaser did you know that?

stats are stored in plain text easy to edit did you know that?

dogecoin network and stratums directly are ddodsed by someone with 200gbit+ botnet did you know that?

NO.....you know why?

couse you dont own 10-20gh/s pool Smiley

for me you are just a next Netcodepool advertise boy like this ajax kid...how many dogecoin did they give you to create account and post shit about biggest pools? 10 100?

post you dogecoin adress and i will donate you some too.

Paid me? Let me tell you one thing, ive been searching for a decent pool for DAYS, and after using fast-pool and analyzing it for several days and i ended up trying netcodepool, well let me just say this opened my eyes and could see much more clearly that there was something wrong with Fast-Pool. I then thought that id make a thread about it so that people can avoid losing money and doing the same mistakes that i did for quite a while.
I'm just here to help the community out and its quite clear that something fishy is going on, and even if it isnt the pool is crap, PERIOD. This is very easy to see, just look at the screenshot
I'm sure most people unlike you would appreciate a warning like this as it might help people on their path to find out why they are earning way less than they should
I do understand that you feel offended and that you need to throw crap at me like ddos, blame wallet (which is a week ago), 12 days bla bla...
But the main fact is that every pool has these issue but then again it does not explain the difference.
Even though if the pool is not a scam, well its still crap and its quite obvious to see.

Feel free to rage all you want all day long but it's not going to change anything.
I'm not "12 days old" and i have a large variety of fields in different programming languages, and im far from a new person in the bitcoin field, not that it matters in this discussion.

Even the way that you express yourself, and the way you write even rings a bell that a skiddy keyboardwarrior is behind the screen.
Have a nice day, i have no interest in discussing the matter further. If you mine at fast-pool you will earn less, is that so hard to accept when it has been proven.

Come on, dont go totally ragenuts now, just because you'll earn less Smiley
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February 05, 2014, 06:44:18 PM
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THERE YOU ARE! I WAS SEARCHING FOR THAT 1GH Smiley

I WILL ADD NETCODEPOOL TO MY DDOS LIST Smiley

THANK YOU FOR YOUR POST....

GOD BLESS....MY LITECOINS
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February 05, 2014, 06:47:26 PM
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Looks like fast pool admins got angry, registering brand new users. Trying to pull ddos strigs to make their wrath and blaming it on litecoin, another reason to post this on multiple boards to see what kind of kids thats behind their wheel Smiley *laughs*
I don't care, its not like its my pool, so hey be my guest.
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February 05, 2014, 06:59:40 PM
Last edit: February 05, 2014, 10:40:22 PM by ajax3592
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you did?
links ? proofs?
all i can see you registered 12 days ago...so you learned about mining everyting in this 2 weeks?


just post something that you are experienced not just a netcode fanboy.

 you are noob here.

in every big pool you can find moment like that...

1.5 wallet is a dissaster did you know that?

new stratum is a dissaser did you know that?

stats are stored in plain text easy to edit did you know that?

dogecoin network and stratums directly are ddodsed by someone with 200gbit+ botnet did you know that?

NO.....you know why?

couse you dont own 10-20gh/s pool Smiley

for me you are just a next Netcodepool advertise boy like this ajax kid...how many dogecoin did they give you to create account and post shit about biggest pools? 10 100?

post you dogecoin adress and i will donate you some too.

ahahaa  Grin comes from a guy registered 40 MINUTES AGO

...dude you know what I like to point out, the "actual qualities" of netcodepool, no bs only truth.

btw if someone starts a good business/service there is no need to hire "advertising guys" as you say, because mouth-to-mouth advertising happens automatically if public knows they are legit.

Netcode tipped 30 Million DOGEs to users on /r/dogecoin

We are also in making of a DOGE based betting website, we believe in DOGECOIN, its bigger for us than just another mine&dump coin.

talk about giving back to the community

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February 06, 2014, 12:09:06 AM
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Good info. up to the top.

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February 06, 2014, 01:00:42 AM
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Greedy, selfish bastards with no manners and skiddy ddos threats towards other pools deserves to be hung out and exposed in public like this.
Now lets wait for them to recode their stats panel to show more lies Smiley
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February 06, 2014, 04:18:24 AM
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Thanks OP, never mining in fast-pool again.
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February 06, 2014, 10:13:05 PM
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First i was on http://doge.hashfaster.com/ and earn about 5-6k coins, next i've decided to mote on a bigger pool https://fast-pool.com and earn about 9-10k coins, and after readin o this coin yesterday moved to https://doge.netcodepool.org/ and now i have almost 16k with today's difficulty

so i think many pools, especially bigger one are scam
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February 07, 2014, 12:03:16 AM
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First i was on http://doge.hashfaster.com/ and earn about 5-6k coins, next i've decided to mote on a bigger pool https://fast-pool.com and earn about 9-10k coins, and after readin o this coin yesterday moved to https://doge.netcodepool.org/ and now i have almost 16k with today's difficulty

so i think many pools, especially bigger one are scam

Good, glad to hear that this thread confirms my theory. This is something everyone should be aware of! Glad i could help Smiley Ive tested hashfaster as well and i got the same result as you earlier, alot less!
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February 08, 2014, 06:23:24 PM
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Hoping that people do notice this and whats going on here

I also tested out suchcoins for a few days and it came back with the same result as fast-pool. Beware guys many scammer pools out there now.
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February 08, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
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Should be east to test right?

I have a few pools setup and have my client set to load balance and I check may earnings in those pools to see which performs best.

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February 08, 2014, 07:23:14 PM
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Should test dogehouse and doge.nut2
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February 08, 2014, 10:50:37 PM
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Awesome man thanks for this info.

i will begin testing netcodepool now, and hopefully start getting the doge i derserve!

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