Privcy Ann deleted yet again

[vectisitch]

hi, can a mod please explain why the Privcy Ann has been deleted again?
this is the second time this week. we have no explanation as to why?
we understood the fact that spam is not wanted here and made it clear we would not tolerate such posts. we kept the thread clear of spam and don't think we did anything against the rules here?
we adjusted our rules to be clear that we didn't want to fill up the thread with meaningless posts. so please can you explain why you deleted our second ann thread without any explanation. thankyou

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[JTTech]

We are not breaking any rules of Bitcointalk TOS from everything we have read.
We are not requiring users to post a minimum number of posts or anything like that, rules are very simple with no required minimums or posts, just shown activity.

We are an official project with a big team and an already massively grown community. I am one of the official mods aliong with Vestitch.


Is it just because many sour people report the thread over and over?
Or is there an actual explanation as to why our thread keeps getting deleted?


WE ARE NOT REQUIRING PEOPLE TO POST IN OUR THREAD

That is NO WHERE stated in our rules or the thread.

[Welsh]

Were you offering an incentive for users to post there? For example, offering them bonus stakes if they posted in the thread. That's generally the reason why announcement topics get removed completely. It doesn't matter if you ask them to only post quality responses either.

Is it just because many sour people report the thread over and over?
Or is there an actual explanation as to why our thread keeps getting deleted?

It wouldn't matter if 1000 users reported the thread if it wasn't breaking one of the rules. There's almost certainly an answer for it being deleted multiple times.

[Pablito89]

Were you offering an incentive for users to post there? For example, offering them bonus stakes if they posted in the thread. That's generally the reason why announcement topics get removed completely. It doesn't matter if you ask them to only post quality responses either.

Absolutely not!

[JTTech]

There is 0% incentive for any user to post in our thread, except to add information to it and discuss the topic.

There is no rule stated ANYWHERE or ANYTHING stated, that we require/incentivize users for posting on OUR announcement thread only.

We state we require ACTIVITY on Bitcointalkforums.... ANYWHERE on the forums and NOT STRICTLY in the announcement thread. That is stated directly, that post SHOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD, anywhere but OFF TOPIC.
We do not even state a MINIMUM number of posts on the forums, just that they show they are an active user to receive airdrop.

There is absolutely 0 incentive for making post on our thread specifically. Who ever reported or thought this is incorrect.

[mprep]

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person)

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me. Even if the promotion is over / cancelled, that's still at the top of one of the giveaway related channels.

[JTTech]

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

That was from 2-3 weeks ago, for our OLD ANN that got deleted... and a single giveaway to only limited # of users.
That message you quoted has been gone for weeks.  That was posted in 6/02/18 before you deleted our first ANN thread.

We readjusted all rules to FOLLOW TOS RULES


We have 0 incentive for any user to make a single post on our thread, and havent had one for weeks.

Whoever sent you that screen shot/text is clearly trying to sabotage our project.


Nothing like that has been posted since.

[Pablito89]

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

#deleted-channel

means it is not active anymore. did you look when it was posted? 06/02/18 
we already got a deleted ANN probably for that. In the new ANN we didn't break any rule.

[mprep]

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

That was from 2-3 weeks ago, for our OLD ANN that got deleted... and a single giveaway to only limited # of users.



Nothing like that has been posted since.

Yet a quote to it is still at the top of one of the giveaway related channels.

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

#deleted-channel

means it is not active anymore. did you look when it was posted? 06/02/18 
we already got a deleted ANN probably for that. In the new ANN we didn't break any rule.

Yet the message itself is still up. I've seen countless of clueless users interpret even more unrelated rules as a requirement to post on a topic.

If the usual money-hungry bounty hunter can interpret it as an incentive to post, I will as well.

[JTTech]

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

That was from 2-3 weeks ago, for our OLD ANN that got deleted... and a single giveaway to only limited # of users.



Nothing like that has been posted since.

Yet a quote to it is still at the top of one of the giveaway related channels.

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

#deleted-channel

means it is not active anymore. did you look when it was posted? 06/02/18  
we already got a deleted ANN probably for that. In the new ANN we didn't break any rule.

Yet the message itself is still up. I've seen countless of clueless users interpret even more unrelated rules as a requirement to post on a topic.

If the usual money-hungry bounty hunter can interpret it as an incentive to post, I will as well.

The message is not there? Ive personally tried searching for it. EVEN IF IT IS/WAS it was a 2-3 week old CLOSED giveaway.

I dont know where this information is coming from.

[mprep]

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

That was from 2-3 weeks ago, for our OLD ANN that got deleted... and a single giveaway to only limited # of users.



Nothing like that has been posted since.

Yet a quote to it is still at the top of one of the giveaway related channels.

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

#deleted-channel

means it is not active anymore. did you look when it was posted? 06/02/18  
we already got a deleted ANN probably for that. In the new ANN we didn't break any rule.

Yet the message itself is still up. I've seen countless of clueless users interpret even more unrelated rules as a requirement to post on a topic.

If the usual money-hungry bounty hunter can interpret it as an incentive to post, I will as well.

The message is not there? Ive personally tried searching for it.

I dont know where this information is coming from.

It just got wiped. Was there 5-10 minutes ago.

[JTTech]

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

That was from 2-3 weeks ago, for our OLD ANN that got deleted... and a single giveaway to only limited # of users.



Nothing like that has been posted since.

Yet a quote to it is still at the top of one of the giveaway related channels.

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

#deleted-channel

means it is not active anymore. did you look when it was posted? 06/02/18 
we already got a deleted ANN probably for that. In the new ANN we didn't break any rule.

Yet the message itself is still up. I've seen countless of clueless users interpret even more unrelated rules as a requirement to post on a topic.

If the usual money-hungry bounty hunter can interpret it as an incentive to post, I will as well.

The message is not there? Ive personally tried searching for it.

I dont know where this information is coming from.

It just got wiped. Was there 5-10 minutes ago.

It was a PREVIOUS MISTAKE... the giveaway is done and overwith weeks ago.

Our first ANN got deleted, and we've played by the book since then.

We had to create a new one from scratch, and now it gets deleted again due to a non-active giveaway?

We already paid the price for that, why delete us again for an old mistake.

Again there was never any incentive to posting in the NEW ANN and will never be any incentive for users to post there.

[mprep]

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It was a PREVIOUS MISTAKE... the giveaway is done and overwith weeks ago.

Our first ANN got deleted, and we've played by the book since then.

We had to create a new one from scratch, and now it gets deleted again due to a non-active giveaway?

We already paid the price for that, why delete us again for an old mistake.

Again there was never any incentive to posting in the NEW ANN and will never be any incentive for users to post there.

If the message (that's now gone, finally) was left up, new threads would continue to get trashed. Doesn't matter you made a new one if all the incentive spammers see the message and flock to the newest one.

[JTTech]

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It was a PREVIOUS MISTAKE... the giveaway is done and overwith weeks ago.

Our first ANN got deleted, and we've played by the book since then.

We had to create a new one from scratch, and now it gets deleted again due to a non-active giveaway?

We already paid the price for that, why delete us again for an old mistake.

Again there was never any incentive to posting in the NEW ANN and will never be any incentive for users to post there.

If the message (that's now gone, finally) was left up, new threads would continue to get trashed. Doesn't matter you made a new one if all the incentive spammers see the message and flock to the newest one.

Why would they flock to a giveaway that isnt even open, active or available. There was no channel to even post "proof" for that giveaway as it was CLOSED weeks ago.  The message was posted 6/02 nobody flocked to anything based on that message.

Im sure users couldnt even see that message.

If anyone flocked to our thread it is to join our legitmate airdrop.

[Pablito89]

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

That was from 2-3 weeks ago, for our OLD ANN that got deleted... and a single giveaway to only limited # of users.



Nothing like that has been posted since.

Yet a quote to it is still at the top of one of the giveaway related channels.

From the project's Discord:

@everyone post good message in our official BTT ANN thread and share a proof here with your PRiV address and you will get 5 PRiV Share proof in #deleted-channel (one claim per person

Seems like a pretty clear incentive to me.

#deleted-channel

means it is not active anymore. did you look when it was posted? 06/02/18 
we already got a deleted ANN probably for that. In the new ANN we didn't break any rule.

Yet the message itself is still up. I've seen countless of clueless users interpret even more unrelated rules as a requirement to post on a topic.

If the usual money-hungry bounty hunter can interpret it as an incentive to post, I will as well.

You're a mod and I respect your decisions.
But this is not fair against a new cryptocoin that is trying to do its best.
We already had an ANN deleted with no reasons at all, and we strictly prohibited to our users to spam in our new ANN thread.
We are also NOT requiring any post in our thread from 4 months. (apparently we did at the start, it was an error)
I don't know where you found that message, but I can assure you no one is watching at it anymore!!
You can search everywhere in our discord, we DON'T require messages in our ANN!

[mprep]

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It was a PREVIOUS MISTAKE... the giveaway is done and overwith weeks ago.

Our first ANN got deleted, and we've played by the book since then.

We had to create a new one from scratch, and now it gets deleted again due to a non-active giveaway?

We already paid the price for that, why delete us again for an old mistake.

Again there was never any incentive to posting in the NEW ANN and will never be any incentive for users to post there.

If the message (that's now gone, finally) was left up, new threads would continue to get trashed. Doesn't matter you made a new one if all the incentive spammers see the message and flock to the newest one.

Why would they flock to a giveaway that isnt even open, active or available. There was no channel to even post "proof" for that giveaway as it was CLOSED weeks ago.  The message was posted 6/02 nobody flocked to anything based on that message.

Because, in practice, that's what they do - go in, see an incentive, do the task and if they don't have a place to post their proof, they pick one at random. At this point I've seen it happen dozens of times.

You're a mod and I respect your decisions.
But this is not fair against a new cryptocoin that is trying to do its best.
We already had an ANN deleted with no reasons at all, and we strictly prohibited to our users to spam in our new ANN thread.
We are also NOT requiring any post in our thread from 4 months. (apparently we did at the start, it was an error)
I don't know where you found that message, but I can assure you no one is watching at it anymore!!
You can search everywhere in our discord, we DON'T require messages in our ANN!

AFAIK this is the first time I deleted the project's ANN. No idea who did it the first time.

If I'm not mistaken, the message was quoted in a post made on June 6th, two weeks ago. Not exactly 4 months. The fact that, despite the warnings plastered all around, the project ran an altcoin giveaway gives me no reason to feel sympathy for the "new cryptocoin".

[vectisitch]

so, if we take down any messages we might have forgotten and comply with the no incentivising posting then can the ann be reopened again??

[mprep]

so, if we take down any messages we might have forgotten and comply with the no incentivising posting then can the ann be reopened again??

If none of the promotional material (website, Twitter, Discord, etc.; outdated or current) incentivizes posting, yeah, the thread's fine in that regard.

[Pablito89]

so, if we take down any messages we might have forgotten and comply with the no incentivising posting then can the ann be reopened again??

If none of the material (outdated or current) incentivizes posting, yeah, the thread's fine in that regard.

that one was the only one (forgotten there) incentivizing posting in our ANN thread.
you can search everywhere in our Discord.

[vectisitch]

ok, thankyou. we will look through our discord and see if we missed anything. if we missed that other message the nthat was a mistake on our part