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June 21, 2018, 04:49:32 AM
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I noticed this old article (begin of June) today where they explain how they tried to give an answer to the question "who is Satoshi Nakamoto?" At first i thought was the usual speculation article with nothing new, but actually they went a bit further using a stylometry model, comparing the writing of Satoshi against the writing of other people to spot similarities.

Is not a mistery the  way we write has a pattern and we use more certain words than other and beside the conclusion they reached, being right or wrong, i think it's an interesting approach and read. Here is the article: https://zycrypto.com/bootstrapped-gavin-satoshi-nakamotos-identity-revealed/

And here is also another article discussing something similar on the stylometry approach, where they speculate about some US governative agency  already knowing who Satoshi really is :   https://news.bitcoin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-known-to-cia-fbi-created-by-nsa-search-intensifies/

As a side note, not the best comparison, however this looking into the messages left behind, to uncover somebody identity, was already used by the FBI when investigating the Unabomber case.

Coming back to us, if you don't want to read the article and want to know the results, it seems they found some good correlation between Satoshi and Gavin Andresen.
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June 21, 2018, 09:49:08 AM
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Can't believe they put lots of effort to discover Satoshi's identity.

But IMO people should respect that Satoshi want to stay anonymous and what they're doing is huge disrespect.
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June 21, 2018, 09:54:17 AM
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Good reading. Thanks for the links.

But IMO people should respect that Satoshi want to stay anonymous and what they're doing is huge disrespect.
It's in our nature to know the unknown especially when someone/something is top secret. By the way, I do feel the same like you. We need to give him (Satoshi) his space.
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June 21, 2018, 11:43:15 PM
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Not that it matters, but I think it wouldn't be surprising that government knows who Satoshi is.
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June 22, 2018, 07:42:55 AM
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There are many who believe that Bitcoin was created by the Bank for International Settlements ( https://www.bis.org/), as an experimental project to test a future world currency.  The limits placed in Bitcoin prevent it from ever becoming the dominant world payment system, and the banker controlled development can benefit from the knowledge gained from thre eperiment.
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June 22, 2018, 01:34:41 PM
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Whoever is behind satoshi, what is puzzling me the most is, given the person is still alive and didn't lose the private key of the address with over 1M bitcoins, how the hell managed to never touch them again? From one side moving part of those bitcoin would have an impact on the price , maybe bring down everything but, frankly how many people do you know capable of keeping it cool like this, noteven getting any credit for the work done?
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June 22, 2018, 03:09:52 PM
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cough! cough! The Bank for International Settlements
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June 23, 2018, 04:03:57 AM
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Convicted fraudster Ronald Keala Kua Maria applied for the trademark of Bitcoin Cash, and calls himself Satoshi Nakamoto

Wants to charge 2% royalties for transactions over $800

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMahwybUUd4

http://satoshinakamoto.ws/







There are just so many suspects:  Who is really Satoshi Nakamoto ?
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June 23, 2018, 05:38:44 AM
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cough! cough! The Bank for International Settlements

Could also be the CIA, or some other governative agency, i guess they could keep it quiet as well. But the more people are involved in something greater are the chances of a leak.

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This looks quite an elaborated plan  Smiley
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June 24, 2018, 07:06:01 AM
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There are many who believe that Bitcoin was created by the Bank for International Settlements ( https://www.bis.org/), as an experimental project to test a future world currency.  The limits placed in Bitcoin prevent it from ever becoming the dominant world payment system, and the banker controlled development can benefit from the knowledge gained from thre eperiment.

They sure changed their mind:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/06/17/bitcoin-useless-unsafe-dirty-finds-withering-bis-report/amp/

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Cryptocurrencies have no intrinsic worth and are useless as a form of exchange. They entail exorbitant transaction costs. They are very slow. Together they have turned into an ecological nightmare.

They are not backed by the assets and revenues stream of an established state. Most can be rendered worthless by fraud or digital manipulation. They are essentially ponzi schemes that masquerade as citizen currencies beyond government control.

Such are the broad findings of the Bank for International Settlements, the Swiss-based ‘bank of central bankers’ and the leading global authority on the crypto-craze.
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June 24, 2018, 08:17:15 AM
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Well you would expect them to say that. They are pushing down the price of Bitcoin to minimise the cost of acquisition. The best way to minimise the use of bitcoin is to buy most of the coins. This pushes up the price, and increases the asset value of your holding.

The Bitcoin project has backfired in a quite spectacular fashion. Not because of Bitcoin itself, because I suspect they planned the management of tht, but because of the alts that are being created. Some of those must present  serious threat to their planned replacements for the fiat system.

You can also diss that statement. We all know that fiat has no asset backing.
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June 24, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
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Usually the most simple answer is the correct one.
I don't think there was any kind of hidden plan when Bitcoin was created, not to this scale.

I think it was simply a very small experiment created by an individual at that time.
It is just in the retrospect that we see Bitcoin at what it is today that we start imagining complicated possibilities and conspiracies.
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July 01, 2018, 03:36:13 PM
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Wow, must say this is complete bs 99.999%, but there it is:
Apparenty satoshi published 21 pages where explains more details about him and bitcoin  Roll Eyes Offcourse there is no signed message  Roll Eyes

http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org

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Nakamoto Family Foundation

Announcing the first excerpt to a literary work consisting of two parts. The excerpt is provided. I wanted to include it as a brief glimpse of history. Even for those that can't read the full book, I wanted to make this available to everyone. A short story if you will, with some of the most brought up questions and answers. I wanted the people and the facts to be known. Or as much of it. I'm still saving most for the books, the best parts hopefully. It's currently just a possibility for now. In the meantime the excerpt is included.

Links with information about the book (if it comes to frution) will be posted here on this site in the coming month.
Names to both are in this puzzle to solve, for those who want spoilers head down to the excerpt: cryptopuzzle

- Convert letters to numbers
- Numbers like 1 represent the letter B, it is in mixed order
- Title of book broken into two parts is revealed at the end

The two part series is still alpha and experimental. There's no guarantee the book will ever come to be, unless it becomes necessary and people want to know about me personally.

In order to figure out the names for them, I have created a simple cryptogram. It is ridiculously easy for anyone to solve, regardless of age. No bruteforce needed. I also will provide the approximate release dates later on in the case they do get made.

I would like to maintain that there were many who contributed to this project, many names of which were not included, individuals who for whatever reason have chosen not to go public and therefore out of respect, I did not include them. Once these conversations are in the public domain to include them in the possible series, I will do so. But to be certain, there are countless conversations I found to be enlightening that I hope make it to be part of the story. There will be many new names and individuals appearing throughout the book in any case, as it is a story about my personal life. Those willing to share these conversations should, for the public

29 June 2018

Paper: Duality: An excerpt

Satoshi Nakamoto

nakamotofoundation@protonmail.com

Here is an article: https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/satoshi-nakamoto-family-foundation-is-purportedly-writing-a-bitcoin-beginnings-book/

And here is the original text: http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/duality.pdf
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July 01, 2018, 08:15:56 PM
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Isn't it possible that they could have just shared accounts/compputers at some points in writing stuff up on Bitcoin.

I mean Gavin and Satoshi both were involved in preliminary creations of bitcoin so it is possible that they both have just contributed to the same articles/publications.
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July 02, 2018, 12:43:26 PM
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Isn't it possible that they could have just shared accounts/compputers at some points in writing stuff up on Bitcoin.

I mean Gavin and Satoshi both were involved in preliminary creations of bitcoin so it is possible that they both have just contributed to the same articles/publications.

It could be indeed, is not specified however if they were keeping into account such cases.


Quite curious to see if this person claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto is going to put up an address to ask donations for his book  Grin
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July 04, 2018, 12:35:43 AM
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Wow, must say this is complete bs 99.999%, but there it is:
Apparenty satoshi published 21 pages where explains more details about him and bitcoin  Roll Eyes Offcourse there is no signed message  Roll Eyes

http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org

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Nakamoto Family Foundation

Announcing the first excerpt to a literary work consisting of two parts. The excerpt is provided. I wanted to include it as a brief glimpse of history. Even for those that can't read the full book, I wanted to make this available to everyone. A short story if you will, with some of the most brought up questions and answers. I wanted the people and the facts to be known. Or as much of it. I'm still saving most for the books, the best parts hopefully. It's currently just a possibility for now. In the meantime the excerpt is included.

Links with information about the book (if it comes to frution) will be posted here on this site in the coming month.
Names to both are in this puzzle to solve, for those who want spoilers head down to the excerpt: cryptopuzzle

- Convert letters to numbers
- Numbers like 1 represent the letter B, it is in mixed order
- Title of book broken into two parts is revealed at the end

The two part series is still alpha and experimental. There's no guarantee the book will ever come to be, unless it becomes necessary and people want to know about me personally.

In order to figure out the names for them, I have created a simple cryptogram. It is ridiculously easy for anyone to solve, regardless of age. No bruteforce needed. I also will provide the approximate release dates later on in the case they do get made.

I would like to maintain that there were many who contributed to this project, many names of which were not included, individuals who for whatever reason have chosen not to go public and therefore out of respect, I did not include them. Once these conversations are in the public domain to include them in the possible series, I will do so. But to be certain, there are countless conversations I found to be enlightening that I hope make it to be part of the story. There will be many new names and individuals appearing throughout the book in any case, as it is a story about my personal life. Those willing to share these conversations should, for the public

29 June 2018

Paper: Duality: An excerpt

Satoshi Nakamoto

nakamotofoundation@protonmail.com

Here is an article: https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/satoshi-nakamoto-family-foundation-is-purportedly-writing-a-bitcoin-beginnings-book/

And here is the original text: http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/duality.pdf

I read most of Satoshis emails and forum posts when I wrote this Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? Suspects, frauds and conspiracies on bitcointalk

My immediate thought after reading the paper " Duality: An excerpt " was - that ain't Satoshi.

So I ran it through an analysis program using a number of samples. The level of English used is identical. But there are big signs it is not Satoshi.

The paper in my opinion is written in a boastful and slightly condescending tone (towards the reader) which is very unlike anything Satoshi is known to have written.

The paper also used almost double the amount of pronouns than Satoshi does in any of his known correspondence.

Those findings would also fit the profile of a scammer or "hoaxer".

The "paper":


Known Satoshi email:


The real Satoshi also appears to a more consistent and considered writer.



Than whoever wrote that "paper".







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July 04, 2018, 10:20:14 AM
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I'm more for Hal Finney.
Isn't it a too big coincidence to Hal Finney lived in the same neighborhood as Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto?
He was the fist to receive a bitcoin transaction?
I know all the emails in between debugging crash logs etc, but isn't that the way to hide himself away?
Seems like we will never know.
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July 04, 2018, 11:29:23 AM
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I'm more for Hal Finney.
Isn't it a too big coincidence to Hal Finney lived in the same neighborhood as Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto?
He was the fist to receive a bitcoin transaction?
I know all the emails in between debugging crash logs etc, but isn't that the way to hide himself away?
Seems like we will never know.


I like Hal Finney. But he doesn't have to be Satoshi to be one of my bitcoin heros. He did enough as Hal to already deserve that title.
For those that don't know who Hal Finney is read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0

In 1991, Hal began doing volunteer work for a new project known as or P.G.P. (Pretty Good Privacy) and was one of the central players in developing the program.
Hal wrote in 1992 that "cryptographic technology appealed to him because he worried about the ability of corporations and governments to snoop on citizens."
"Hal was motivated by the highest ideals of human rights," stated Phil Zimmermann

Hals style and character match. I believe Satoshi to be a brilliant human being like that.

There is also this:

Nick posted again today, (praising ethereum once again;) and I was reading and I noticed his use of the term "block chain" instead of "blockchain"

Satoshi never said blockchain. He calls the ledger block chain.  Shocked


2 years ago I decided to scan Satoshi's forum posts here just to see if there was anything anomalous about his writing style.  Anything that stood out to me.  The first thing I noticed was that he constantly hyphenates things.  He never misses a properly hyphenated phrase.  He *always* hyphenates things.  Word phrases 99% of people have no idea should be hyphenated, he hyphenates.  In fact I almost wondered if he was over-hyphenating.  Doing it randomly sometimes.  In any case .... take a look at Szabos writings .... cough ...

http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-dawn-of-trustworthy-computing.html

From that page alone:

ticket-selling at a movie theater
other kinds of every-day commerce
analog or paper-based institutions
participate in e-commerce
Turing-complete block chain
efforts included state-machine replication
dawn of the general-purpose personal computer
other interesting trust-minimized operations
the much-discussed "51% attack"
the oft-used word
mouthful "trust-minimized"
the cashier and ticket-ripper
decentralized or peer-to-peer
new fiduciary-intensive applications
off-chain assets or controls on-chain ones
other chain-titled assets
dry (on-chain) performance
traditional off-chain
into a single chain-controlled risk pool
low-hanging fruit

-B-

Differences between Satoshi and the "paper"

Satoshi:



FAKE Paper:











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He never misses a properly hyphenated phrase.  He *always* hyphenates things.  Word phrases 99% of people have no idea should be hyphenated, he hyphenates.

This and other inconsistencies make me conclude that http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/duality.pdf is 100% not written by Satoshi.
Looks like a fiction novel is on its way.
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