ICO Onasander is a scam

[Be_Happy]

What happened: Fake team.

ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3948353.0

Website: https://onasander.com

ADAM WAGNER = Jonathan Lickstein https://kcorealty.com/our-staff

ANNA KRAVITZ https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/full-isolated-studio-picture-young-businesswoman-63357334

ROBERT MUER  https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/good-looking-mature-asian-indian-male-104842403

MIKE BROWN https://depositphotos.com/12769374/stock-photo-place-your-business-ad-here.html

[Arrrvin]

Thanks! I remember I was eager to join their bounty campaign.

Scams nowadays look so classy.

[The Cryptovator]

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Great job. Thanks for deep investigate. It's clear they are scammer. Bounty manager should lock their thread.
Can I add your thread quote on my scam list here :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4467496.0

[crypto_alex86]

Thank you very much for your attentiveness. You have saved a lot of people from potential participation in a useless project.

[Dyonis]

Thanks for the info. I already wanted to enter the project, but after studying the project in more detail, I came across your information. Just in time.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I tagged the accounts involved with the promotion.  This is a ridiculous trend that needs to be shut down--I would advise OP to also tag those accounts, and anyone else who sees this as a scam.  These idiots need to be drenched in red.  Nice work, OP.  Hopefully these morons are going to start realizing that there are folks checking to see if their team member photos are boosted from the internet. 

No wonder they're starting to use sillly animated photos "for anonymity".

[ryancpk]

My goodness. Scam nowadays seems so real. Thanks for exposing this scam ICO.

[OnasanderICO]

An ICO Service (guy) that advised us (for consideration) in the beginning offered us few team members and built the team presentation. He recommended them.

Last week we were approved to be listed by FoundICO.  We wanted to KYC all of our members at FoundICO.  Some would not do it, or would not reply.  We were concerned, but did not suspect much, except
2 members that were thrown out.

Now we will remove anyone that can not KYC.  Every other and new member will have to be KYCed at FoundICO.
Sorry about that, our fault, but not on purpose.  

[The Sceptical Chymist]

An ICO Service (guy) that advised us (for consideration) in the beginning offered us few team members and built the team presentation. He recommended them.

Last week we were approved to be listed by FoundICO.  We wanted to KYC all of our members at FoundICO.  Some would not do it, or would not reply.  We were concerned, but did not suspect much, except
2 members that were thrown out.

Now we will remove anyone that can not KYC.  Every other and new member will have to be KYCed at FoundICO.
Sorry about that, our fault, but not on purpose.  

That's the most ridiculous explanation for having fake photos I've ever heard.  Do you really expect anyone to believe that shit?  Do you expect to have any credibility after this?

[Be_Happy]

They ask to change the name of the thread. I doubt that the rest of the team has anything to do with the project

[Rajs64]

Dear Be_Happy and The Pharmacist,

I Thank you for exposing this ICO and saving me and many others from continuing with this scam group.  

I was one of the unfortunate member to become part of their bounty management team, and was naive to trust them. I do entitle a red tag as well, since I failed to verify them and have put lots of participants efforts in imperil by doing their campaigns.

I am not sure of how investors will recover their money back???

To let all be aware, I have written about their accusation in both ANN and Bounty threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3948353.msg40633127#msg40633127
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4456125.msg40632876#msg40632876

I am contacting all bounty participants to make them aware of this situation, and requesting to stop continuing any further activities with them

On a humble request: Can their ANN and Bounty threads be wiped off from this forum? we prefer not to have them here anymore and neither to hear their ridiculous plea.

[Rajs64]

As predicted, one of my posts in ANN thread is deleted by onasander team. Please see what he talked about:



Anyway, I am glad that their red tag is intact!!

[phillipsgate]

Thanks for your information, i joined it over 1 week so now i will delete all posts about this project. it wastes our time.

[duyhenry]

THANK ABOUT FOR INFORMATION.
I JOIN IN LAST NIGHT. SO BAD.!!! WE ARE REVIEWS FOR THE BEST PROJECTS.
I THINK OF BITCOINTALK SHOULD NEED A APPROVAL GROUP TO MAKE MONEY FOR THESE ADVERTISEMENTS.

[OnasanderICO]

Onasander ICO Suspension Lifted.  We will continue the ICO Now. 

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I Thank you for exposing this ICO and saving me and many others from continuing with this scam group.  

Thank Be_Happy, not me.  All I did was to read his post that exposed this nonsense and tag what looked to me like the main team members.  Be_Happy was the one who did the work to identify the fake photos. 

I don't intend on tagging you or anyone else unless someone provides evidence that leads me to believe I should.

[Arrrvin]

Onasander ICO Suspension Announcement:

Due to some of our team members having fake photos on our website, we are forced to suspend the ICO project. It was not a scam, but a mistake by promoting recommended people we never checked. 
We rushed in the beginning and made a mistake.  We want to thank everyone that helped and worked for us, and anyone that lost (if) money on our project will be fully refunded. 

Special sorry to our real team members who feel disappointed. 

How can you run a project with an IT lead officer and an IT security officer who are unfamiliar to and unchecked by you? That alone is enough reason to not engage in your project.

[mistersehmuz]

Good job man. You saved hard earned money of many people. Thanks.

[Slow death]

if any questions please feel free to ask with us

Who is the founder of this project?

Who created the project idea? I'm talking about this:

Investment Fund

The cornerstone of our fund, and future bank will be our Asset Price Analysis Software.  The growth of the institution will be based on our trading software. This trading software is our unique way of analyzing asset prices and forecasting deals.

other point:

How Onasander Works?

Our trading software collects prices of all the assets we are tracking.  Based on those collected prices, it calculates if the asset is overbought or oversold.  It analyzes those prices and creates investment plans for the most optimal gains.  This is a dynamic process.  As time goes on, the most optimal investment plan changes since prices of assets change.  Trading team monitors the Onasander market calls and adjusts the portfolios, and trading positions so that they are aligned with the most optimal plan.   

Onasander market calls provide us with the exact price for the trade entry and exit, along with precise timing.  Knowing correctly what to buy, at what price, and when, is our most valuable, and unique part of the company.  Our software can also predict trade entry points into the future for decades.  Knowing when and what will be a price of assets in the future helps us to position our investments accordingly, so that not only we make money currently, we will also be ready for future trades.

Where are the Trading team? you should have shown who they are because they are the heart of your project.

Who created your website?

Who created your whitepaper?


From my point of view, this project has lots of red flags, how could you possibly have been tricked with these fake team members? if you had take a few hours to do research on google that you would have discovered they are false.

[OnasanderICO]

@Slow Death
To answer your questions:

I am the founder of the project.  I created the project idea about 20 years ago.  I wrote the whitepaper, smart contracts, and the website for the most part. 
There is no trading team, and there won’t' be until we complete our ICO, and we have a physical location locked in place.   If you were ever involved with a real startup company you would know there is almost no way to hire real members before the company starts up.  It's not even economical to do so, and I am aware many companies do it, because they burn someone else's cash.  History has showed me those startups will never survive.   For more information read the whitepaper on our trading or ask here.   There are no red flags.  It's your opinion on how a team should run, nothing else. 



@Arrrvin
That's a reasonable question to ask.  At the very beginning when we started to write the paper, we had a business behind it, but had no clue about ICOs, or how to execute them.  We asked around in Telegram channels for
ICO advisors and we found people that offered ICO services.  Services from programming to ICO teams, marketing, etc.  We took ICO team and programming (Airdrop, Website applications).  Those were placeholders to us, knowing well we will upgrade them to our own members.  If you were closer to the project, you would know we did eventually hire our own members for the team and started replacing those recommended members
who we had little contact with.  From 6 we were down to 4 only.  Anyone that could not KYC was being removed.  Problem was our marketing bounty hunters and us, who submitted the team to many websites and it was a pain to remove them.  We are still removing them. 

Now, if you ever tried to run an ICO you would know all these ANN threads, and ICO teams are fake.  There is about 6500 ICO Advisors on LinkedIn who probably have nothing to do with ICOs.  Almost all ANN Threads are bumped for money.  Our ANN, BOUNTY, AIRDROP thread did not have a single paid bump.  That's why we had very little posts.  Ironically, we are one of the most legit ICOs out there. 




@Everyone
We did not have a problem with this thread.  We made a mistake, you had the right to call us out.  We admitted to it.  What we have a problem with is false accusations, false assumptions, and false negative feedback.
If you made the thread about fake photos and submitted 1 negative feedback about fake photos, it would be justified, but instead you accused the ICO of being a scam without a single proof, you submitted multiple false negative feedbacks for the same thing, you made fake accusations about the rest of the team, and you (User marlboroza) submitted negative feedback to innocent people in our threads.  Those people are innocent and have nothing to do anything.  We do not have a single shill.  Think about your actions next.  Don’t judge if you don’t know.

More, since the witch hunt went full spree, we decided to Subpoena anyone making any kind of false accusations.  You are allowed to talk about fake photos on our past team, or anything else you have proof for.  We will litigate for anything else.