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February 07, 2014, 07:49:14 PM
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I get a sense you appreciate higher level thinking so I have confidence the first bounty is yours Smiley
Thank you for the compliment. Although, I view myself as another average human being. Tongue
Just one inquiry:
A common reason tone is used in text is to enhance the message for the purpose of further engaging the audience. I think it gives a sense of personalization to the reader, of course with the caveat that everyone's perception is different. But that's not a bad thing, we're individuals after all. I'm curious though... why is it strange?
Since I stated your tone is both lighthearted and serious, as I was reading, I could only wonder if you were a troll or a serious poster. That's what was strange to me. Your words also felt driven by emotion, and I began to suspect you were a woman.
you are a woman. so yes you are insane Smiley jkjk   lol idk if this counts as contributions
Women think much more differently and see the world differently than men, so maybe that's why you butt heads with other posters. I've noticed you are quite good at taking a post, thinking more about it, and continue with other thoughts. I don't. I like short, simple, and to the point.
It's versatile (like real life), I presume effective for those who can appreciate. There's got to be more to it than the typical nerd stereotype shenanigans we're all familiar with. Surely we nerds are smart enough to realize this, right? Or do I need to find a forum for intellectuals?
Nerds will be nerds. The internet is filled with every kind of person, so you'll end up with "non-intellectuals" wherever you go. I like Reddit.
Please respond with your thoughts and bitcoin address Smiley
My thoughts are written above. As for additional thoughts, I wouldn't flaunt your intellect. If you're smart, people will notice. No need to state it. You can come off as cocky and arrogant while people appreciate someone who's humble. Just let your words/actions show it.

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thanks, if you have thoughts to my thoughts, you can post them!

if you want to psycho-analyze my posts for fun, you can look through my posts too, lol
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February 07, 2014, 07:56:42 PM
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I hope you didn't take offense to that example. It wasn't directed at you, but for everyone in general. It's pretty evident from your first response that you know how to convey. I just wanted to know the 'whys' is all. And again, you came through. You explained your position well enough that I now I understand your point of view, and I agree with what you said; makes complete sense to me. You say your responses was all you had; they were absolutely perfect.

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edok, please provide valid explanations of the underlined.  Just so everyone knows, this isn't a valid explanation: "I see it as unprofessional" - Because we're adults.

Here is an example of where I think you could be more clear and direct. "Because we're adults" - what does this mean? Seems maybe a little...backhanded? I'm not really sure how to read it or if I should take offense. I would certainly say to another adult at work the phrase "I see this as unprofessional". In my mind it's a valid statement where I'm expressing my opinion about something.

Also, by valid explanations do you mean links/references to your posts? I'll try to flesh some of them out below, but I might not have time to provide specific links. Otherwise, I'm not sure what makes my explanations invalid. They are my observations and opinions.

what does the smiley face emoticon accomplish?

In my opinion, smiley face emoticons are some of the most ambiguous, frustrating, and frankly annoying ways that people try to communicate their feelings.

My point is that smiley faces often make communication more confusing. For example, if I said to someone "Have you had the time to send over that report?" that is a relatively clear message. If I say, ""Have you had the time to send over that report? Smiley" this creates confusion on behalf of the reader. Is the writer frustrated at the reader but trying to be nice? Are they genuinely smiling after saying this? Why would they smile after asking for a report? The tone changes and the message becomes unclear. This is why I personally find smiley faces frustrating.

For example, I'm okay with this:
I get it now

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thanks both of you rock !!, this will not make my out from BitCoin,

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That's the spirit! Welcome to the world of bitcoin. Smiley

These smileys below, the use of the word "actually", and the elipses give this beginning of this message an uncomfortable tone. It ends very well and you encourage the person which is great, I'm commenting on how it starts. That's the best way I can describe it. I'm not a psychologist so I'm sorry I don't have anything else to go on:

I don't wish you any bad will, I actually wish you well Smiley  For the sake of this community, and from my experience of what we currently have out there... I still hope you become an asset.

I see it as unprofessional. When they are used frequently, I tend to think that the person using them is too insecure to be direct.

I see this at my work a lot, even when communicating with clients. I see it as unprofessional. Not really sure what else to say. This isn't a professional forum so there is more leeway to use them, but I personally don't like to use them and I tend to think that when people use them, they are expressing insecurity. It's almost like the person using them feels frustrated or misunderstood but is trying to also remain amiable? Again, doing my best to describe the feeling but I'm far from being able to describe this as a psychologist or sociologist.

It's a politeness that is largely absent wherever identities are unknown. When users see this type of communication in an environment where flame wars occur everyday and trolls abound, they're not sure what to make of it.

Hmmm, not sure what else to say here. People are used to other people being frank, rude, and often deliberately obnoxious online. You are very polite. People don't expect it. When people see something that doesn't fit it makes them feel uncomfortable. That's all I got.

Also, I think you could be more direct when the situation calls for it.

Maybe instead of "Because we're adults" you could have said "I need more clarity as to what this means" or "could you please flesh this out and provide an example" or "this needs more explanation, why is it unprofessional?". I don't know what you were getting at but I feel like it could have been more clear and direct.

I'm pretty open minded, so there's little that actually offend me. It's not that I have a 'don't give a shit' attitude (because I do care, too much sometimes), it's just well... complicated.

I'll say one more thing. In my opinion people want two things in life: to be fully known and fully loved. We believe that one always has to come at the expense of the other. I am a terribly insecure person at times, I can be very indirect (ask my wife), inconsiderate, and down right horrible. My wife has seen me at my worst and loves me anyway, this is grace. We need people in our lives who will dare to know us, who we will dare to let in, and who will love us in spite of everything.

This is all I have, sorry I won't have time for another follow up. Bounty or not, good luck to you and may you know grace and love to their fullest.

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February 07, 2014, 07:59:57 PM
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I hope you didn't take offense to that example. It wasn't directed at you, but for everyone in general. It's pretty evident from your first response that you know how to convey. I just wanted to know the 'whys' is all. And again, you came through. You explained your position well enough that I now I understand your point of view, and I agree with what you said; makes complete sense to me. You say your responses was all you had; they were absolutely perfect.


Thank you!

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February 07, 2014, 08:05:16 PM
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thanks, if you have thoughts to my thoughts, you can post them!

if you want to psycho-analyze my posts for fun, you can look through my posts too, lol

Oh darn - my jig is up! lol.

I do have thoughts on your thoughts - but their my thoughts and you can't have them! jk I can foresee some interesting exchanges between us in the future, no doubt. But I'll let you know this: I have become rather arrogant. I needed that reality check.

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February 07, 2014, 08:14:21 PM
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how did i do with my last response cris i tried to explain as much as possible.

Yes, you did DrHerbSmoker. Tell me this, though... why do you think I was justified in calling in them out? Do you think I did the community a favor, or did I blow it out of proportion?

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February 07, 2014, 08:15:48 PM
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op a narcissist?

Far from it actually.

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February 07, 2014, 08:24:34 PM
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tl;dr
op a narcissist?

Far from it actually.

thanks, if you have thoughts to my thoughts, you can post them!

if you want to psycho-analyze my posts for fun, you can look through my posts too, lol
But I'll let you know this: I have become rather arrogant. I needed that reality check.

Arrogance is a symptom of narcissism  Wink. And if you were one you either A) Wouldn't admit it, or B) wouldn't know about it  Grin.

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February 07, 2014, 08:26:55 PM
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Well after going trough your posts for a while I see  you like to challenge everything. What I mean by this, is that whenever someone posts something they have to give a good reason to why they did what they did. I noticed this because I'm sometimes like that. This also shows that you most likely have a high education, that is you are a smart person, because you are not afraid to challenge everything and find out for yourself why is something the way it is. Sometimes though you think that you can accomplish more by insulting someone other then by explaining to them your opinion politely (have to say you sometimes do this).
Do I think you are a crazy person? No, most of us are like that these days. Frustrated. Challenging. Want to learn more and so on. So if you are crazy then I suppose most of us are.

Yeah, you're right; pretty clear in this thread, lol. But is this necessarily a bad thing? I suppose I could choose my battles a little more selectively? What do you think?

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February 07, 2014, 08:28:00 PM
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tl;dr
op a narcissist?

Far from it actually.

thanks, if you have thoughts to my thoughts, you can post them!

if you want to psycho-analyze my posts for fun, you can look through my posts too, lol
But I'll let you know this: I have become rather arrogant. I needed that reality check.

Arrogance is a symptom of narcissism  Wink. And if you were one you either A) Wouldn't admit it, or B) wouldn't know about it  Grin.

I agree with you that arrogance is a symptom of narcissism, but I don't agree that OP is narcissist. Why because I didn't see how he glorifies himself in some way. All I saw is that he posed his opinion like most of us and how it developed from there is another matter entirely.  

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how did i do with my last response cris i tried to explain as much as possible.

Yes, you did DrHerbSmoker. Tell me this, though... why do you think I was justified in calling in them out? Do you think I did the community a favor, or did I blow it out of proportion?

i would say you did the community a favor by showing the casinos true colors. some may say its not a big deal but i think that is up to how much the player knows and wants to know to begin with ya know.

and u were justified in calling them out because its a public board where things like this are supposed to be questioned and brougt up

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February 07, 2014, 10:06:32 PM
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Well after going trough your posts for a while I see  you like to challenge everything. What I mean by this, is that whenever someone posts something they have to give a good reason to why they did what they did. I noticed this because I'm sometimes like that. This also shows that you most likely have a high education, that is you are a smart person, because you are not afraid to challenge everything and find out for yourself why is something the way it is. Sometimes though you think that you can accomplish more by insulting someone other then by explaining to them your opinion politely (have to say you sometimes do this).
Do I think you are a crazy person? No, most of us are like that these days. Frustrated. Challenging. Want to learn more and so on. So if you are crazy then I suppose most of us are.

Yeah, you're right; pretty clear in this thread, lol. But is this necessarily a bad thing? I suppose I could choose my battles a little more selectively? What do you think?
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Well I just don't think some battles are worth it, since some people are so stubborn that no matter what you say and no matter what evidence you present them they will not change their mind. They think they are right and that's it. Those battles are not worth it, since you just lose time and get mad because the other people is so stupid and can't understand or doesn't want to understand what you are saying. To sum it up I would say it's okey to say your opinion and to discuss something but those you met in the past that were unwilling to accept anything you say and couldn't tell you why, time shouldn't be wasted on people like that. There are plenty of open minded people who want to listen. I think I may have gone off topic a little. Smiley
Fighting and saying what you believe is not a bad thing overall.

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Well after going trough your posts for a while I see  you like to challenge everything. What I mean by this, is that whenever someone posts something they have to give a good reason to why they did what they did. I noticed this because I'm sometimes like that. This also shows that you most likely have a high education, that is you are a smart person, because you are not afraid to challenge everything and find out for yourself why is something the way it is. Sometimes though you think that you can accomplish more by insulting someone other then by explaining to them your opinion politely (have to say you sometimes do this).
Do I think you are a crazy person? No, most of us are like that these days. Frustrated. Challenging. Want to learn more and so on. So if you are crazy then I suppose most of us are.
Yeah, you're right; pretty clear in this thread, lol. But is this necessarily a bad thing? I suppose I could choose my battles a little more selectively? What do you think?
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Well I just don't think some battles are worth it, since some people are so stubborn that no matter what you say and no matter what evidence you present them they will not change their mind. They think they are right and that's it. Those battles are not worth it, since you just lose time and get mad because the other people is so stupid and can't understand or doesn't want to understand what you are saying. To sum it up I would say it's okey to say your opinion and to discuss something but those you met in the past that were unwilling to accept anything you say and couldn't tell you why, time shouldn't be wasted on people like that. There are plenty of open minded people who want to listen. I think I may have gone off topic a little. Smiley
Fighting and saying what you believe is not a bad thing overall.

Yeah, I've spent some time here trying to prove a point over and over again, probably a lil too much in some cases. But I'm not so sure I'd exactly say the time was wasted. Even if who ever I'm beating a dead horse with at the time didn't get it, maybe something I said during the convo gave further insight to someone who was just reading it. If that's the case, then at least the time spent wasn't for nothing, right?

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Well after going trough your posts for a while I see  you like to challenge everything. What I mean by this, is that whenever someone posts something they have to give a good reason to why they did what they did. I noticed this because I'm sometimes like that. This also shows that you most likely have a high education, that is you are a smart person, because you are not afraid to challenge everything and find out for yourself why is something the way it is. Sometimes though you think that you can accomplish more by insulting someone other then by explaining to them your opinion politely (have to say you sometimes do this).
Do I think you are a crazy person? No, most of us are like that these days. Frustrated. Challenging. Want to learn more and so on. So if you are crazy then I suppose most of us are.
Yeah, you're right; pretty clear in this thread, lol. But is this necessarily a bad thing? I suppose I could choose my battles a little more selectively? What do you think?
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Well I just don't think some battles are worth it, since some people are so stubborn that no matter what you say and no matter what evidence you present them they will not change their mind. They think they are right and that's it. Those battles are not worth it, since you just lose time and get mad because the other people is so stupid and can't understand or doesn't want to understand what you are saying. To sum it up I would say it's okey to say your opinion and to discuss something but those you met in the past that were unwilling to accept anything you say and couldn't tell you why, time shouldn't be wasted on people like that. There are plenty of open minded people who want to listen. I think I may have gone off topic a little. Smiley
Fighting and saying what you believe is not a bad thing overall.

Yeah, I've spent some time here trying to prove a point over and over again, probably a lil too much in some cases. But I'm not so sure I'd exactly say the time was wasted. Even if who ever I'm beating a dead horse with at the time didn't get it, maybe something I said during the convo gave further insight to someone who was just reading it. If that's the case, then at least the time spent wasn't for nothing, right?
I have to say I didn't think about it that way. Yes you are right, even if it is not possible to convince some in something it might be someone who is reading that, if they are open to critical thinking and think that you have presented enough evidence. That makes it more of a long run game. Sadly usually not that many people read, especially if there is too much of text and pages, then you have to add that something gets buried beneath all the other new threads. Maybe knowing that it will be available for them trough search is enough, so those who are interested in it will find what they are looking for.

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Well after going trough your posts for a while I see  you like to challenge everything. What I mean by this, is that whenever someone posts something they have to give a good reason to why they did what they did. I noticed this because I'm sometimes like that. This also shows that you most likely have a high education, that is you are a smart person, because you are not afraid to challenge everything and find out for yourself why is something the way it is. Sometimes though you think that you can accomplish more by insulting someone other then by explaining to them your opinion politely (have to say you sometimes do this).
Do I think you are a crazy person? No, most of us are like that these days. Frustrated. Challenging. Want to learn more and so on. So if you are crazy then I suppose most of us are.
Yeah, you're right; pretty clear in this thread, lol. But is this necessarily a bad thing? I suppose I could choose my battles a little more selectively? What do you think?
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Well I just don't think some battles are worth it, since some people are so stubborn that no matter what you say and no matter what evidence you present them they will not change their mind. They think they are right and that's it. Those battles are not worth it, since you just lose time and get mad because the other people is so stupid and can't understand or doesn't want to understand what you are saying. To sum it up I would say it's okey to say your opinion and to discuss something but those you met in the past that were unwilling to accept anything you say and couldn't tell you why, time shouldn't be wasted on people like that. There are plenty of open minded people who want to listen. I think I may have gone off topic a little. Smiley
Fighting and saying what you believe is not a bad thing overall.

Yeah, I've spent some time here trying to prove a point over and over again, probably a lil too much in some cases. But I'm not so sure I'd exactly say the time was wasted. Even if who ever I'm beating a dead horse with at the time didn't get it, maybe something I said during the convo gave further insight to someone who was just reading it. If that's the case, then at least the time spent wasn't for nothing, right?
I have to say I didn't think about it that way. Yes you are right, even if it is not possible to convince some in something it might be someone who is reading that, if they are open to critical thinking and think that you have presented enough evidence. That makes it more of a long run game. Sadly usually not that many people read, especially if there is too much of text and pages, then you have to add that something gets buried beneath all the other new threads. Maybe knowing that it will be available for them trough search is enough, so those who are interested in it will find what they are looking for.

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February 08, 2014, 02:07:16 AM
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how did i do with my last response cris i tried to explain as much as possible.

Yes, you did DrHerbSmoker. Tell me this, though... why do you think I was justified in calling in them out? Do you think I did the community a favor, or did I blow it out of proportion?

i would say you did the community a favor by showing the casinos true colors. some may say its not a big deal but i think that is up to how much the player knows and wants to know to begin with ya know.

and u were justified in calling them out because its a public board where things like this are supposed to be questioned and brougt up

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Thanks I'd be happy to look through and find another one to give it another shot just don't think I'm giving you what your looking for but thank you
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Thanks a lot for this. Hope you are sure by now that you are sane and there is nothing wrong with you. Well if there is something wrong with you then there is something wrong with most of us. If you stood up for the right thing, even better. If others are calling you crazy because of it, then you must have hit a nerve, or did something right, because if you were wrong they would most likely just ignore you.

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Thanks a lot for this. Hope you are sure by now that you are sane and there is nothing wrong with you. Well if there is something wrong with you then there is something wrong with most of us. If you stood up for the right thing, even better. If others are calling you crazy because of it, then you must have hit a nerve, or did something right, because if you were wrong they would most likely just ignore you.

lol, I hear you. This is the first time I've ever been actively engaged in any type of online community; I don't even do Facebook. So just trying to acclimate is all.

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Thanks a lot for this. Hope you are sure by now that you are sane and there is nothing wrong with you. Well if there is something wrong with you then there is something wrong with most of us. If you stood up for the right thing, even better. If others are calling you crazy because of it, then you must have hit a nerve, or did something right, because if you were wrong they would most likely just ignore you.

lol, I hear you. This is the first time I've ever been actively engaged in any type of online community; I don't even do Facebook. So just trying to acclimate is all.
I don't Facebook either. Consider it a waste of time. Here on the other hand I like, and places like this one. You can speak your mind and if something goes wrong delete your profile and start over. No one knows your real name. If someone is friends with you here they are so because they like what you post and think good about what you have to say. It's not the same on social sites where you have to be careful what you post.

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February 09, 2014, 02:12:24 PM
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Dealing with people is lot like mining bitcoin.you have to go through
lot of shit before you get your block.

you are smarter than most people on earth,so
be too big for worry
be too noble for anger
be so strong like bitcoin that nothing can disturb your peace of mind.

good luck to you,
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TY.

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