Again presale=scam
not quite sure how you can judge this as a scam.
How would you plan to raises funds to get on an exchange listing? a decent exchange will start at 1 BTC for CryptoBridge, 4 for coinexchange adn almost 12 for Cryptopia. All decent exchanges cost money. If you can give me a better way to do this then I am all ears.
Maybe using your own money... Trust me I've been down the ico road, it didn't end well. I will strictly use my own money for projects from now on.
Problem with this is that not everyone is able to fund a $100k listing on an exchange on their own. So by the "pre-sale = scam" definition, anyone not wealthy and/or has great connections shouldn't/couldn't come up with something new, good, and innovative? I'm the first to say, too many pre-sales are scams...but that doesn't make them ALL scams. I'm not one to put out names, but of the top of my head I could name a couple handfuls of coins that did pre-sales and have been wildly successful in both market and real life applications.
Nothing in life is guaranteed...be it that "all pre-sales are a scam" or "this pre-sale is legit". I know the team on this one well enough to say I plan to purchase in pre-sale...and it would be the first I've ever done so with. But this is my opinion, and I would tell everyone the same thing...talk to the team, read into their plans, study, etc...then make a decision, but don't blanketly say it's a scam, that's a rather cynical and misleading statement!