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Yes, I agree with you that it is necessary that people use bitcoin less as a means of accumulating value and more as a means of payment. But now nobody will hear your calls. Everything will be the same as before. Bitcoin will again grow in price and because of bad news and at the same time the manifestation of volatility will necessarily panic, after which bitcoin will drop to very low price values. This will be repeated many times until people are convinced on their own experience that if you keep bitcoin for a long time, it leads to losses. Only then will they stop using bitcoin more as a means of accumulating value. Until they fill themselves with cones on their heads, nothing will happen until then. So far, most of your calls will not be heard. Believe me, there is simply no other way, except for the usual long way through a multiple fall in price.
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June 30, 2018, 05:14:48 PM |
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Why stop at investing when we can do both? I would want to use bitcoin as a form of payment. Its just that very few merchants accept cryptocurrency. At least, for now. Just have to wait a little longer.
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liamnorthcoins
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June 30, 2018, 05:23:45 PM |
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Listen to me.
Look I know we are a free community, but come on don't you think the price has become so volatile during the past few months just because people started using it as a form of investment. I've seen people buy in low, in hopes of selling it at high, and that's basically pump and dump.
Bitcoin wasn't created to make us rich over night but was created so we could have control over our money and not the bankers. It was created so we could be free, so there won't be any borders telling us we are different from them so we can't trade with them. To be united, but all I see are people only talking about how much profit they've made, not about how it can help people that don't have access to banks(they do but it's a minority).
We live in a society where we take everything for granted, just like we've taken Bitcoin for granted. We don't deserve it. The ones that deserve it don't have access to it.
At the end of the day we become savages and only think about the profit not the good that it can do for us, instead of making us rich.
Yes, I was introduced to it because of the investment, but I was a fool at that time, I couldn't see the bigger picture.
We are a community created for the people, by the people.
(P.S. If you don't see Bitcoin as investment, then be proud of it, and hope it can help us be united, for it's all that we have left against them)
Your right. But we cant force others to think the same way that you do. People by nature would seek ways to profit and many would always think of bitcoin as an investment because that is the only way they understood it to be and because right now there are still many boarders that needs to be broken by any cryptocurrency theres: ignorance, acceptance in big an small industries or countries, proper knowledge and proper way to use bitcoin and so many other more to mention.
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July 04, 2018, 07:25:24 PM |
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I agree with you, but you need to use bitcoin for payment in a reasonable amount, so that the balance remains the same for investment. The world will still come to this, and we must push it.
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July 04, 2018, 07:31:26 PM |
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So, what you are expecting from your words? Bitcoin pumps? More buyers of Bitcoin? Well, the fact is, you can't. Anyone can use Bitcoin for everything, you couldn't have to stop everyone to think if Bitcoin is a payment method.
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PeRo
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July 04, 2018, 07:34:01 PM |
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That is a better way of using Bitcoin for all of us, and it would be good if most of the users listened, but only few actually will. Everyone thinks like "Why would I use it as a currency when I can get rich with it/ earn a lot of money?" The people who are manipulating the market are the big players and they don't care if the smaller fish is happy with the price, they want only money.
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July 04, 2018, 07:44:33 PM |
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Over the years so many people sees bitcoin as a get rich quick scheme and at that they rush into bitcoin with the hope that they becomes rich over night forgetting the primary purpose of the invention of bitcoin which is the digital currency and as a method of payments for goods and services.
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July 04, 2018, 07:59:23 PM |
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I always prefered to use Bitcoins as a payment and currency and somehow I beleive that is its main purpose. Alternative currency and payment method confronted to conservative fiat currencies. To use it as an investment was my second choice but I guess this depends on individual preferences and goals. But I beleive Bitcoin was made with concrete and active purpose and that is payment.
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July 04, 2018, 08:14:13 PM |
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Bitcoin IS amazing as a currency/payment method. The possibility and emergence of decentralized online marketplaces proved that point for me. Nowadays you can buy or sell everything freely, p2p, anonymously and safe on platform like OpenBazaar ( https://openbazaar.org/), which allow global trade of goods and services with no middleman or fees. Personally, I prefer shopping there lately to both amazon&ebay, because of the convenience, ease, security, lack of censorship and simply for the sake of free trade and crypto evolution. This reflects my personal stance on this matter, unlike ebay\amazon\etc user policies and practices. Those who think of bitcoin only as a mean of investment, are missing the whole picture, IMO.
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July 04, 2018, 08:15:45 PM |
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lack of adoption making mainstream forced to sell their Bitcoins to FIAT first before they able to use it. The fact is currently, BItcoin is profit driven assets. Mainstream main usage of Bitcoin as an assets to generate income due to its volatility. It does not because they didn't want to, but they platform and merchant that accept Bitcoin for every need is lacking.
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Kambal2000
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July 04, 2018, 08:16:31 PM |
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I always prefered to use Bitcoins as a payment and currency and somehow I beleive that is its main purpose. Alternative currency and payment method confronted to conservative fiat currencies. To use it as an investment was my second choice but I guess this depends on individual preferences and goals. But I beleive Bitcoin was made with concrete and active purpose and that is payment.
Although, we all know the fact that that is the main purpose of bitcoin but we cannot deny the fact that most of us here are earning because of many investors, because of them the value is pumping and in that way we are earning a lot, of course I also like to use this just like a cash do but we cannot blame people who are doing that way.
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July 05, 2018, 03:16:23 AM |
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Listen to me.
Look I know we are a free community, but come on don't you think the price has become so volatile during the past few months just because people started using it as a form of investment. I've seen people buy in low, in hopes of selling it at high, and that's basically pump and dump.
Bitcoin wasn't created to make us rich over night but was created so we could have control over our money and not the bankers. It was created so we could be free, so there won't be any borders telling us we are different from them so we can't trade with them. To be united, but all I see are people only talking about how much profit they've made, not about how it can help people that don't have access to banks(they do but it's a minority).
We live in a society where we take everything for granted, just like we've taken Bitcoin for granted. We don't deserve it. The ones that deserve it don't have access to it.
At the end of the day we become savages and only think about the profit not the good that it can do for us, instead of making us rich.
Yes, I was introduced to it because of the investment, but I was a fool at that time, I couldn't see the bigger picture.
We are a community created for the people, by the people.
(P.S. If you don't see Bitcoin as investment, then be proud of it, and hope it can help us be united, for it's all that we have left against them)
But bitcoin price is very expensive on the market, peoples use it for investment. it will be great if bitcoin used as currency to pay something than used as an investment to hold. But first, the volatility of bitcoin is the obstacle to become a firm currency.
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DoublerHunter
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July 05, 2018, 04:05:44 AM |
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Just have patience and the time will come where people using it as a mode of payment and not form of investment because the price of bitcoin right now is pretty low which is the reason there are people who are not using it for their payment because they don't want to lose bitcoin and potential to earn more money by just holding.
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digroske
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July 05, 2018, 04:21:53 AM |
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Listen to me.
Look I know we are a free community, but come on don't you think the price has become so volatile during the past few months just because people started using it as a form of investment. I've seen people buy in low, in hopes of selling it at high, and that's basically pump and dump.
Bitcoin wasn't created to make us rich over night but was created so we could have control over our money and not the bankers. It was created so we could be free, so there won't be any borders telling us we are different from them so we can't trade with them. To be united, but all I see are people only talking about how much profit they've made, not about how it can help people that don't have access to banks(they do but it's a minority).
We live in a society where we take everything for granted, just like we've taken Bitcoin for granted. We don't deserve it. The ones that deserve it don't have access to it.
At the end of the day we become savages and only think about the profit not the good that it can do for us, instead of making us rich.
Yes, I was introduced to it because of the investment, but I was a fool at that time, I couldn't see the bigger picture.
We are a community created for the people, by the people.
(P.S. If you don't see Bitcoin as investment, then be proud of it, and hope it can help us be united, for it's all that we have left against them)
This process is already underway, although it may not be as active as we would like. I would also like to see the bitcoin mission as using as a method of payment for all transactions and freedom from state control. But while many people have a thirst for short-term profit prevails.
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shoreno
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July 05, 2018, 04:30:50 AM |
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Just have patience and the time will come where people using it as a mode of payment and not form of investment because the price of bitcoin right now is pretty low which is the reason there are people who are not using it for their payment because they don't want to lose bitcoin and potential to earn more money by just holding.
the price of bitcoin can still adjust to the price of usd , that simply means you arent loosing anything but you can loose if you use your bitcoin in a form of asset because the value can somehow drop if ever you but and invest bitcoin starting from a high or mid price though , there is still a chance that you can recover it and possibly make a profit as long as you have a patience to wait. in my own honest opinion , i think bitcoin is only suitable as an investment and not a currency because the transaction works verry slow plus it also cost more in terms of tansaction fees.
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Ewox
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July 05, 2018, 04:37:58 AM |
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Easy for you to say to use bitcoin as a currency, what if you love in a country wherein they do not have or offer bitcoin as a payment how would you use it as a currency in the first place. Its a case to case basis thats why more people prefer to use bitcoin now as an investment because they cant use it yet.
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July 05, 2018, 04:57:51 AM |
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Listen to me.
Look I know we are a free community, but come on don't you think the price has become so volatile during the past few months just because people started using it as a form of investment. I've seen people buy in low, in hopes of selling it at high, and that's basically pump and dump.
Bitcoin wasn't created to make us rich over night but was created so we could have control over our money and not the bankers. It was created so we could be free, so there won't be any borders telling us we are different from them so we can't trade with them. To be united, but all I see are people only talking about how much profit they've made, not about how it can help people that don't have access to banks(they do but it's a minority).
We live in a society where we take everything for granted, just like we've taken Bitcoin for granted. We don't deserve it. The ones that deserve it don't have access to it.
At the end of the day we become savages and only think about the profit not the good that it can do for us, instead of making us rich.
Yes, I was introduced to it because of the investment, but I was a fool at that time, I couldn't see the bigger picture.
We are a community created for the people, by the people.
(P.S. If you don't see Bitcoin as investment, then be proud of it, and hope it can help us be united, for it's all that we have left against them)
But remember also that bitcoin also design as an asset or an investment perhaps there are only a little of numbers of merchants that accepted bitcoin as a form of payment, a large volume of bitcoin circulated is in exchange.
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elygil2022
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July 05, 2018, 05:05:57 AM |
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I don’t think I can do that right now. There’s not that many establishment that accepts bitcoin as payment as of the moment. But I would like to see that happen at the soonest possible time.
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lzby2000
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July 05, 2018, 05:09:02 AM |
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So the current bitcoin market is just for speculation, and if we want the community to grow, we have to let bitcoin be used by more people and more businesses to use bitcoin, only in this way the entire encrypted community is likely to go on.
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ajuelnah akun
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July 05, 2018, 05:10:01 AM |
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Not everyone who buys bitcoin thinks of doing HODL and pumping, a lot of people buy bitcoin for them to spend in cyberspace. Like gold lovers, not all gold buyers make an investment to make a profit. They also buy so they can enjoy their beauty, even some of them are willing to lose a lot of money even though they have to buy at a high price.
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