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February 11, 2014, 02:50:41 AM
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When every victimless action is made a "crime", anyone can be prosecuted for "money laundering". How to NOT be a victim of a sting operation? Commit suicide immediately, so that you cannot be prosecuted for victimless actions.

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February 11, 2014, 06:52:07 AM
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They made up a fake crime in order to bust someone for a victimless "crime".
You think a crime is fake just because it was made up? A criminal act doesn't have to actually happen or even be physically possible for a crime to occur. You can be charged with conspiracy, solicitation, or facilitation of a crime even if the crime itself is never actually attempted, and you can be charged with attempt even if the crime attempted is impossible. The solution is to not assist people who claim that your assistance will help them commit a crime (suppose they're telling the truth?) and not attempt to commit crimes yourself. Is that really too much to ask?

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February 11, 2014, 08:33:19 AM
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I'm attempting to exterminate the human race right now, by only massaging my lymph glands. Oh shit, now I'm going down for 7.143 billion counts of attempted murder!

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February 11, 2014, 10:37:31 AM
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I'm attempting to exterminate the human race right now, by only massaging my lymph glands. Oh shit, now I'm going down for 7.143 billion counts of attempted murder!
Can't tell if trolling, but in case not, an attempted crime requires the act(s) committed to be proximate to the crime. Proximity is a matter for the jury to decide, but as a general rule, stabbing someone while they're lying in bed is attempted murder, even if (unbeknownst to you) they had already died in their sleep of unrelated causes, and therefore actually murdering them is impossible (you can't kill someone who's already dead, after all), while massaging your lymph glands is not attempted murder, or any other crime (usually).

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February 11, 2014, 10:56:13 AM
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use encrypted email and dont be a jackass about who you do business with

Exactly.  The government can't crack "Encrypted" communications.

They have to rely on noticing encrypted communications and hacking the computers at both ends, which they are almost 100% successful at.

How not to be a victim of a sting operation:

"Don't break the law or assist others in breaking the law"

Or just don't get caught  Cheesy. I'm not sure the government are gonna waste time cracking encrypted communications to go after petty money launderers though. If you were smart enough I doubt they wouldn't even know about it in the first place.

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February 11, 2014, 09:19:51 PM
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I'm attempting to exterminate the human race right now, by only massaging my lymph glands. Oh shit, now I'm going down for 7.143 billion counts of attempted murder!
Can't tell if trolling, but in case not, an attempted crime requires the act(s) committed to be proximate to the crime. Proximity is a matter for the jury to decide, but as a general rule, stabbing someone while they're lying in bed is attempted murder, even if (unbeknownst to you) they had already died in their sleep of unrelated causes, and therefore actually murdering them is impossible (you can't kill someone who's already dead, after all), while massaging your lymph glands is not attempted murder, or any other crime (usually).

You think a crime is fake just because it was made up? A criminal act doesn't have to actually happen or even be physically possible for a crime to occur. You can be charged with conspiracy, solicitation, or facilitation of a crime even if the crime itself is never actually attempted, and you can be charged with attempt even if the crime attempted is impossible.

Killing every human being on earth by massaging my lymph glands is impossible, but I can be charged with the attempt anyway according to the bolded part.

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February 11, 2014, 11:19:29 PM
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Killing every human being on earth by massaging my lymph glands is impossible, but I can be charged with the attempt anyway according to the bolded part.
As I explained, massaging your lymph glands is not a crime. The crime you are worried about being charged with attempting is the murder of every human being on Earth (and no murder statute I know of says anything about lymph glands), which isn't at all impossible. It would be difficult to murder every human being on Earth, and even more difficult to prosecute (insert joke about lawyers not being human here), but it is by no means an impossible crime to commit. But even though the crime is not impossible, you still couldn't be charged because massaging your lymph glands isn't a proximate act to murdering every human being on Earth (and most acts that would be proximate to murdering every human being on Earth would probably qualify (at the very least) as some form of treason anyway).

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February 11, 2014, 11:28:49 PM
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what's a lymph?  is it like a nymph?

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February 12, 2014, 02:09:06 AM
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You are not required to have a state license in Florida to buy a hammer (yet).

I think you might be wrong (seriously).

Depending on your reason for wanting to buy a hammer, you may very well be required to have a license.

If you doubt that this could be true, watch the video below:

http://youtu.be/nBiJB8YuDBQ

The US is really a third world police state. In most of the civilized world it's just illegal for the police to incite to commit a crime.

Plus, is all this a joke? So they arrested two guys because the cops told them "I will use this money to buy stolen goods"? An US judge will accept that BS? Really? Again, in a civilized country the judge would tell to those cops to gtfo and to stop harassing citizens.

Unfortunately you are right.

The US is a great country with some amazing people but it is now a police state, and even law abiding citizens run the risk of being prosecuted and sent to jail for large parts of their lives for victimless crimes.

Consider that 1 out of every 18 men in the US are either in jail or on probation!

This is the highest number in the world, with Russia coming in 2nd and Rwanda 3rd. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States )

It is sad that this great nation is being destroyed by a such a relatively small number of people. Sad

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February 12, 2014, 02:45:22 AM
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Nobody is allowed to feel mortal fear of law enforcement officers, even if they don't know that the person with a gun is law enforcement officer and thinks they'll get shot by a criminal (or his accomplice) for not cooperating.

The gun didn't even necessarily have to be shown, if it "printed" (you could see the outline of the gun and/or holster through clothing).

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