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June 25, 2018, 10:22:26 AM
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Bitmain, the largest manufacturer of ASICs, is getting close to 51% of Bitcoin’s network hashrate as its two subordinates reached close to 42% last week. The manufacturing and mining giant owns both BTC.com and Antpool.

Antpool is a mining pool operated by the Beijing-based company, and it found 14.6 percent of all bitcoins last week. By comparison, BTC.com is supposedly independent (while still being owned by Bitmain) and found 27.2 percent of all bitcoins last week.

Full report here: https://www.livebitcoinnews.com/bitmain-approaching-51-of-network-hashrate-for-bitcoin/

Too much power and too much control in the hands of one person or one company, that is not acceptable on many counts. The risks are too high so what is the best way to avoid any chance of Bitcoin potentially becoming hostage to any person/company in the future? It has not happened so far but things might take a turn for the worse in the future.

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June 25, 2018, 10:31:27 AM
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I just read it already somewhere here, let me see.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4541197.0

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June 25, 2018, 10:32:02 AM
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A mining pool is public though, so other people are possibly mining in BTC.com and Antpool. If that ever happens, people could simply stop, how does Bitmain have the power to make a 51% in that case? I'm missing something?
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June 25, 2018, 10:50:55 AM
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Bitmain, the largest manufacturer of ASICs, is getting close to 51% of Bitcoin’s network hashrate as its two subordinates reached close to 42% last week. The manufacturing and mining giant owns both BTC.com and Antpool.

Antpool is a mining pool operated by the Beijing-based company, and it found 14.6 percent of all bitcoins last week. By comparison, BTC.com is supposedly independent (while still being owned by Bitmain) and found 27.2 percent of all bitcoins last week.

Full report here: https://www.livebitcoinnews.com/bitmain-approaching-51-of-network-hashrate-for-bitcoin/

Too much power and too much control in the hands of one person or one company, that is not acceptable on many counts. The risks are too high so what is the best way to avoid any chance of Bitcoin potentially becoming hostage to any person/company in the future? It has not happened so far but things might take a turn for the worse in the future.

Hard fork before too late.
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June 25, 2018, 11:12:33 AM
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How i remember 3 - 4 month ago was proposed new consensus but it was criticize by bitmain and donnt accepted.
Bitmain self have big influence in btc

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June 25, 2018, 11:16:40 AM
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Before people become too fixated on that "51%" figure, as they always seem to do, it should be reiterated that's the threshold at which attacks become sustainable for longer periods, but attacks can technically still be carried out with less than 51% of the hashrate.  I'd be happy to do away with the name "51% attack" and simply call it a "hashrate attack" for the sake of accuracy.  It's also worth remembering that an attack is still unlikely, not only because that level of collusion is difficult to orchestrate, but also because of the alignment of incentives.  The network was designed to make it more profitable to remain honest than it is to break the rules and cheat.


A mining pool is public though, so other people are possibly mining in BTC.com and Antpool. If that ever happens, people could simply stop, how does Bitmain have the power to make a 51% in that case? I'm missing something?

It's difficult to tell for certain, but yes.  It's fair to assume that one single entity doesn't directly control every single last participant in the pool(s).  It's largely symbolic in a sense.  It puts people at unease when one entity is perceived to have too much influence simply because it doesn't look good.  It doesn't necessarily mean they have the power to do anything malicious, it just appears as though there's a chance they might.  That's enough to worry some people.  After all, decentralisation is one of our most cherished attributes.  


Hard fork before too late.

You're free to if you want, just don't expect everyone else to tag along.  Seems a touch dramatic for my tastes.

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June 25, 2018, 01:29:42 PM
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A mining pool is public though, so other people are possibly mining in BTC.com and Antpool. If that ever happens, people could simply stop, how does Bitmain have the power to make a 51% in that case? I'm missing something?

Well Bitmain is already part using their btc.com and antpool for other crypto including Bitcoin Cash. What they are seeming to do is to mine Bitcoin and then immediately sell it for Bitcoin cash. If they were to stop mining Bitcoin Cash and add that hash power towards Bitcoin then it would add minimal percentage to the already 42% because the work rate is harder for Bitcoin than Bitcoin Cash.

Yes people could stop using those two pools and mine elsewhere to stop 51% hash rate at any single pool but maybe better for morew choice for stable pools out there.

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