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Immortality.Digital is the first project that will allow anyone to create a full digital backup of themselves and thus achieve digital immortality. This process will have 2 aspects: 1. Data collection 2. Data storage Data collectionWe will collect all available data about our clients: Complete physiological data (genome, full medical examination, including all possible analyses and tests, detailed to the point where we'll have full data about every inner organ). Complete psychological data (results of many detailed important psychological tests, designed precisely for the purpose of capturing subject's personality). Full digital footprint (everything ever written by the subject, photos, audio files and videos of him). Our complex neural networks will analyze this data and create a precise imprint of subjects personality. Data storage:Afterwards this data will be stored in an ultra secure storage - Memority. Memority storages are completely fail-safe and protected from any third parties aiming to delete or alter data, and most importantly - decentralized and independent from anything. We'll be able to store your data for any time period required for scientific progress to achieve a point at which they'll be able to ensure eternal life and this data will be required for your memories and personality recreation. The data will be stored up to 1,000 years. We'll be happy to receive any feedback and suggestions about our idea.
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June 25, 2018, 11:53:13 AM |
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Oh seriously? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Keeping some unnecessary information on blockchain has nothing in common with "digital immortality". Store some photos and bio on facebook, that would enough though. "Our complex neural networks"? Sigh.. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Another useless ICO and senseless token.
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June 25, 2018, 12:08:33 PM |
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Oh seriously? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Keeping some unnecessary information on blockchain has nothing in common with "digital immortality". Store some photos and bio on facebook, that would enough though. "Our complex neural networks"? Sigh.. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Another useless ICO and senseless token. How is physiological and psychological information unnecessary? How much do you think you can learn about a person from their facebook page, and how much of that information would be even true? And storing information is exactly what digital immortality is. At least, it is the biggest and most crucial part of it. Also, what exactly do you dislike about the "Our complex neural networks" part? I would love to explain if there is a specific question or a problem. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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June 25, 2018, 12:25:17 PM |
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Most stupid thing I ever heard.
Full digital backup of person... is NOT possible ever.
Person is always changing ...so you would need to update all the time.
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June 25, 2018, 12:27:52 PM |
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I really don't know what this project was about. Something funny?
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June 25, 2018, 12:28:22 PM |
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they want to get rich with ICO easy money A successful project does not need ICO I hate ICOs you should gain value over time what comes fast goes fast
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June 25, 2018, 12:49:25 PM |
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The data will be stored up to 1,000 years.? I would think we would have achieved real immortality by then, that's if the human race or the planet is still here. also how can you say 'up to 1,000 years', you cannot say how long you will be able to store data. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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June 25, 2018, 02:05:17 PM |
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Most stupid thing I ever heard.
Full digital backup of person... is NOT possible ever.
Person is always changing ...so you would need to update all the time.
Yes, every person is indeed changing. And we do plan to keep updating the information. There will be an automatic system continuing to collect digital footprints throughout the client's life and updating his or her imprint.
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June 25, 2018, 02:13:41 PM |
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The data will be stored up to 1,000 years.? I would think we would have achieved real immortality by then, that's if the human race or the planet is still here. also how can you say 'up to 1,000 years', you cannot say how long you will be able to store data. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) And this is exactly what our project will be useful for. Say, a person dies, but 10 years later the real immortality is discovered. Wouldn't his relatives or friends want to see him back? Wouldn't the person himself want to be back? Or if the person's body was preserved through cryonics, but, as we haven't witnessed a successful reversal procedure, what if his memories or personality get changed or damaged? Wouldn't he want a way to restore his original self? We say up to 1,000 years, because the real immortality should surely be discovered by then, but we do mean that 1,000 years as our time limit. And it is absolutely possible.
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June 25, 2018, 02:28:12 PM |
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they want to get rich with ICO easy money A successful project does not need ICO I hate ICOs you should gain value over time what comes fast goes fast
This is how startup economy works: someone creates the idea and develops initial plans/technologies and so on. Then there comes a time when he needs money to actually implement it and make it successful (because it never becomes successful without any money). So he goes to investors, asks them for money, receives a couple millions or not, depending on how good the idea is. And then he starts to really work on the project, hire people, rent an office and so on and so forth. Are Google or Apple or Amazon successful projects? Well, that is how they started: by asking others to invest money to be able to use it to implement ambitious plans and become successful. And ICO is just an independent crowd-sourced and most importantly decentralized alternative to this. Yes, there are scammers, unfortunately, but many ICOs are truly aimed at making a world a better place without making themselves dependent on governments or financial institutions. And that seems like the way for digital immortality to go.
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June 25, 2018, 02:45:29 PM |
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they want to get rich with ICO easy money A successful project does not need ICO I hate ICOs you should gain value over time what comes fast goes fast
This is how startup economy works: someone creates the idea and develops initial plans/technologies and so on. Then there comes a time when he needs money to actually implement it and make it successful (because it never becomes successful without any money). So he goes to investors, asks them for money, receives a couple millions or not, depending on how good the idea is. And then he starts to really work on the project, hire people, rent an office and so on and so forth. Are Google or Apple or Amazon successful projects? Well, that is how they started: by asking others to invest money to be able to use it to implement ambitious plans and become successful. And ICO is just an independent crowd-sourced and most importantly decentralized alternative to this. Yes, there are scammers, unfortunately, but many ICOs are truly aimed at making a world a better place without making themselves dependent on governments or financial institutions. And that seems like the way for digital immortality to go. Google and Amazon made working products long time before investors joined them.
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June 25, 2018, 04:04:52 PM |
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quite an interesting project, maybe you have the courage to bring it to the end .. or start a little imagination, imagine that this project will become relevant in 1000 years, and you will be revived to make work on plantations
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June 25, 2018, 07:19:05 PM |
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they want to get rich with ICO easy money A successful project does not need ICO I hate ICOs you should gain value over time what comes fast goes fast
This is how startup economy works: someone creates the idea and develops initial plans/technologies and so on. Then there comes a time when he needs money to actually implement it and make it successful (because it never becomes successful without any money). So he goes to investors, asks them for money, receives a couple millions or not, depending on how good the idea is. And then he starts to really work on the project, hire people, rent an office and so on and so forth. Are Google or Apple or Amazon successful projects? Well, that is how they started: by asking others to invest money to be able to use it to implement ambitious plans and become successful. And ICO is just an independent crowd-sourced and most importantly decentralized alternative to this. Yes, there are scammers, unfortunately, but many ICOs are truly aimed at making a world a better place without making themselves dependent on governments or financial institutions. And that seems like the way for digital immortality to go. Google and Amazon made working products long time before investors joined them. Not exactly ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) As for Amazon, Jeff Bezos asked his parents for the initial investment (it was about $200k, if I recall correctly). He needed money to pay employees, advertise and other basic stuff. But the next investment he got was several million USD. And as for Google, Larry Page and Sergey Brin had indeed had a search algorithm (their university project). And it luckily happened so that their professor personally knew the abovementioned Jeff Bezos, so he got them in touch, and Jeff, now being quite wealthy, was one of the fist major investors in Google. And they initially got more than a million U.S. dollars of investment before actually making the working search system. You can say that they had a kind of MVP before getting the money.
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June 25, 2018, 07:23:38 PM |
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quite an interesting project, maybe you have the courage to bring it to the end .. or start a little imagination, imagine that this project will become relevant in 1000 years, and you will be revived to make work on plantations Thanks a lot! Hopefully, in a 1000 years, when technologies are good enough to revive people, there will be no need for any human-based work whatsoever. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 25, 2018, 07:27:10 PM |
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The data will be stored up to 1,000 years.? I would think we would have achieved real immortality by then, that's if the human race or the planet is still here. also how can you say 'up to 1,000 years', you cannot say how long you will be able to store data. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) And this is exactly what our project will be useful for. Say, a person dies, but 10 years later the real immortality is discovered. Wouldn't his relatives or friends want to see him back? Wouldn't the person himself want to be back? Or if the person's body was preserved through cryonics, but, as we haven't witnessed a successful reversal procedure, what if his memories or personality get changed or damaged? Wouldn't he want a way to restore his original self? We say up to 1,000 years, because the real immortality should surely be discovered by then, but we do mean that 1,000 years as our time limit. And it is absolutely possible. You imagination is running wild... Human being is much more than just data and empty information...
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June 25, 2018, 07:50:20 PM |
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Your project is good, but the reason why you've received quite a bit of skepticism is that you didn't tell is why your project is important and useful. I believe that with this technology, we can get to know a person physically, but I doubt if it's adequate to know a person for who he is. It is very possible for a person to fake his character and emotions when he knows his data will be stored for future generations.
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June 26, 2018, 10:37:06 AM |
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The data will be stored up to 1,000 years.? I would think we would have achieved real immortality by then, that's if the human race or the planet is still here. also how can you say 'up to 1,000 years', you cannot say how long you will be able to store data. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) And this is exactly what our project will be useful for. Say, a person dies, but 10 years later the real immortality is discovered. Wouldn't his relatives or friends want to see him back? Wouldn't the person himself want to be back? Or if the person's body was preserved through cryonics, but, as we haven't witnessed a successful reversal procedure, what if his memories or personality get changed or damaged? Wouldn't he want a way to restore his original self? We say up to 1,000 years, because the real immortality should surely be discovered by then, but we do mean that 1,000 years as our time limit. And it is absolutely possible. You imagination is running wild... Human being is much more than just data and empty information... Can't argue with that. But at the moment there is no perfect solution (real immortality), so going for the next best thing (digital immortality) is obviously better then doing nothing. Our solution will not be able to save a human completely, but we're doing the best possible option with current technologies. And when they develop something new (say, Elon Musk will complete his brain-machine interface), we will also add it to our means of data collection and make it more complete.
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June 26, 2018, 10:45:50 AM |
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Your project is good, but the reason why you've received quite a bit of skepticism is that you didn't tell is why your project is important and useful. I believe that with this technology, we can get to know a person physically, but I doubt if it's adequate to know a person for who he is. It is very possible for a person to fake his character and emotions when he knows his data will be stored for future generations.
This is exactly why we need this PreANN topic, to show the basic idea and collect feedback on it and on our presentation of it. So thanks! Now to your questions. Why is it useful? Well, until we get the real immortality, digital one is the next best thing. And it is also like a plan B, just in case. Or a plan C after Cryonics. It is better to save yourself at least in detailed digital form, than not to do this at all. Can a person fake his character? Yes, indeed, but that's his own choice. He may want to store the "real" self, as close to actual personality as possible, or he may decide to adjust some stuff, to "forget" what he doesn't want to remember and so on. Yes, this kind of kills the idea but everyone should be free to choose for themselves.
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