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June 25, 2018, 02:07:47 PM
Last edit: June 26, 2018, 03:02:23 PM by MrAgi
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Hello,

I have this account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1838839 that have been banned on the 13th of June and said 7 days ban.
today the ban is still at 7 days. Can someone more expert explain to me why the countdown doesn't go down?

Thanks in advance to anyone who will answer.
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June 25, 2018, 03:28:10 PM
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I'm not sure what you were banned for but it's permanent. Do you have a screenshot of the ban?

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June 25, 2018, 04:01:19 PM
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Hello, yes, here the link on Igmur
https://imgur.com/vcBXxQj

Thanks for the information anyway. I hoped that the ban was only for 7 days.....
Rules are so strict on this forum. At first time you get banned without even a warn.
please can you tell me how can you say is a permaban?

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June 25, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
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Thanks for the information anyway. I hoped that the ban was only for 7 days.....
As far as I know, this happens if you get a permanent ban during your temporary ban.

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June 25, 2018, 05:32:37 PM
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Too much "great project" perhaps

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3416631.msg37242780#msg37242780
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3393244.msg38216934#msg38216934

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Anyone posting info from their bounty application (usernames, addresses, etc.) or anything alongside the lines of "joined X", "looking forward to getting X", "thanks for the opportunity", "filled out form", "signed up for X", "applied", "following / liked / retweeted X" when such data is not required or the requirement is against the forum's rules risk having their account banned. These are extremely low quality posts generate massive amounts of spam, drowning out any legitimate discussion these threads may posses.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2284374.0

I don't know if users are perma banned for breaking this rule but I wouldn't be surprised and agree with. Rules are not very strict (at least not enough in my opinion). Anyone with common sense and a decent behavior is safe from losing his account

Edit: sorry, I didn't see LoyceV edited his post

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June 25, 2018, 05:53:02 PM
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Too much "great project" perhaps

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3416631.msg37242780#msg37242780
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3393244.msg38216934#msg38216934

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Anyone posting info from their bounty application (usernames, addresses, etc.) or anything alongside the lines of "joined X", "looking forward to getting X", "thanks for the opportunity", "filled out form", "signed up for X", "applied", "following / liked / retweeted X" when such data is not required or the requirement is against the forum's rules risk having their account banned. These are extremely low quality posts generate massive amounts of spam, drowning out any legitimate discussion these threads may posses.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2284374.0

I don't know if users are perma banned for breaking this rule but I wouldn't be surprised and agree with. Rules are not very strict (at least not enough in my opinion). Anyone with common sense and a decent behavior is safe from losing his account

Edit: sorry, I didn't see LoyceV edited his post


I have the same problem. I think my ban was because of IP issues, we cannot access the forum from Turkish IP’s therefore i used VPN several times... I would be so happy if you check the situation... still banned.
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June 25, 2018, 05:57:21 PM
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You're asking the wrong person, I am just a member here. I am admin and moderator at home only.
Sorry.

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June 25, 2018, 06:10:58 PM
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I have the same problem. I think my ban was because of IP issues, we cannot access the forum from Turkish IP’s therefore i used VPN several times... I would be so happy if you check the situation... still banned.
As far as I know, this forum doesn't ban people based on their IP, unless it's a spammer using many accounts.
Posting in this thread, right after I reminded the OP ban evasion is against the rules, is not smart.

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June 25, 2018, 09:00:47 PM
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I'm not sure what you were banned for but it's permanent. Do you have a screenshot of the ban?
Is it normal to permanently ban someone for low quality posts on the first ban?

This seems heavy handed to me and it might exclude some people that we might not want to exclude.

I would lift the ban if it is only for low quality posts and he has no other accounts with a history of bans.
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I would lift the ban if it is only for low quality posts and he has no other accounts with a history of bans.
Sure... so, did you just registered this account to post this? Or are you OP and think we are dumb enough to think you are a different user randomly suggesting a unban for yourself? Cheesy

Is it normal to permanently ban someone for low quality posts on the first ban?
I think it's possible if that's all you do. I've seen multiple users these past few weeks that got permanent banned and the only possible (or at least evident) reason was that they were spamming (mainly in bounty threads) and/or writing in a thread to earn a bonus (which is against the rules and will get you perma banned).

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June 25, 2018, 11:02:57 PM
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I would lift the ban if it is only for low quality posts and he has no other accounts with a history of bans.
Sure... so, did you just registered this account to post this? Or are you OP and think we are dumb enough to think you are a different user randomly suggesting a unban for yourself? Cheesy

Is it normal to permanently ban someone for low quality posts on the first ban?
I think it's possible if that's all you do. I've seen multiple users these past few weeks that got permanent banned and the only possible (or at least evident) reason was that they were spamming (mainly in bounty threads) and/or writing in a thread to earn a bonus (which is against the rules and will get you perma banned).
No, I made that post because that is my opinion. I am not the OP and I have no conflicts.

I don’t think you know when users are banned permanently because this is not public information although perhaps you get a hint when all the profile information is wiped. Keep in mind you don’t know the background of those users, you don’t know if they are one person using 10 accounts to systematically break the rules, if they have a history of breaking the rules including getting banned for doing so, if they were previously banned for other reasons and just got caught for ban evasion. All of these scenarios would warrant a more harsh penalty because they show a disregard for the rules. They also imply knowledge that they know what they are doing is against the rules.

In the case of the OP, he made a bunch of crappy posts and was banned before he received any kind of warning, according to him. I understand that most rule breakers will receive multiple warnings about their behavior before they are removed from the community.

I obviously don’t know if the OP is telling the truth but if he is he should be able to improve his quality, like is the case for others in his situation previously.

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June 25, 2018, 11:35:23 PM
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I would lift the ban if it is only for low quality posts and he has no other accounts with a history of bans.
Sure... so, did you just registered this account to post this? Or are you OP and think we are dumb enough to think you are a different user randomly suggesting a unban for yourself? Cheesy
No, I made that post because that is my opinion. I am not the OP and I have no conflicts.
that could be true, but it's kind of strange that the first post of a 'real' newbie is about ban discussion
regular people wouldn't worry about ban when they joined the forum in the first place
unless of course he has other intentions Roll Eyes than getting information and discussing bitcoin related stuff

Is it normal to permanently ban someone for low quality posts on the first ban?
I think it's possible if that's all you do. I've seen multiple users these past few weeks that got permanent banned and the only possible (or at least evident) reason was that they were spamming (mainly in bounty threads) and/or writing in a thread to earn a bonus (which is against the rules and will get you perma banned).
In the case of the OP, he made a bunch of crappy posts and was banned before he received any kind of warning, according to him. I understand that most rule breakers will receive multiple warnings about their behavior before they are removed from the community.

I obviously don’t know if the OP is telling the truth but if he is he should be able to improve his quality, like is the case for others in his situation previously.
the problem is all his crappy posts categorized as spam posts
he made those posts just to increase his post counts and activities
others that wasn't banned most likely made crappy post content but not regarded as spam
if a newbie continuously makes useless posts, mods would label him as a spammer and ban him

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June 26, 2018, 05:46:40 AM
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I also experienced it. this is the link profile my account is banned My account, there written 7 days. however, until now my account has not returned as well. I admit that I have made a low quality post and I forgot to include the source link in my post. is that a big mistake ??
And this is a screenshot https://imgur.com/a/hJeIKl1
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June 26, 2018, 06:08:07 AM
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Too much "great project" perhaps

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3416631.msg37242780#msg37242780
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3393244.msg38216934#msg38216934

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Anyone posting info from their bounty application (usernames, addresses, etc.) or anything alongside the lines of "joined X", "looking forward to getting X", "thanks for the opportunity", "filled out form", "signed up for X", "applied", "following / liked / retweeted X" when such data is not required or the requirement is against the forum's rules risk having their account banned. These are extremely low quality posts generate massive amounts of spam, drowning out any legitimate discussion these threads may posses.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2284374.0

I don't know if users are perma banned for breaking this rule but I wouldn't be surprised and agree with. Rules are not very strict (at least not enough in my opinion). Anyone with common sense and a decent behavior is safe from losing his account

Edit: sorry, I didn't see LoyceV edited his post


I have the same problem. I think my ban was because of IP issues, we cannot access the forum from Turkish IP’s therefore i used VPN several times... I would be so happy if you check the situation... still banned.
Username : sturec


Only a brand new account being registered on a bad IP would be effected by this. Is that what happened?

I'm not sure what you were banned for but it's permanent. Do you have a screenshot of the ban?
Is it normal to permanently ban someone for low quality posts on the first ban?



No, it normally isn't, unless all the posts are extremely spammy or off topic etc. What probably happened is he was given the first ban then they or someone else spotted something like plagiarism and permabanned him. The vast majority of his posts just seem to be 'thanks for the airdrop' type ones, many of which are in threads that have been trashed. I would contact mprep for further clarification as he was possibly the one who issues the ban (both temp and permanent).

I also experienced it. this is the link profile my account is banned My account, there written 7 days. however, until now my account has not returned as well. I admit that I have made a low quality post and I forgot to include the source link in my post. is that a big mistake ??
And this is a screenshot https://imgur.com/a/hJeIKl1

Try contact mperp.

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June 26, 2018, 07:55:33 AM
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Thanks  hilariousandco and all of you for your answers.
Nobody said that I didn't do anything. I was just asking why you don't get a warn before ban, if I remember is also written in the rules that you should get a warn before get banned.
In my opinion if I'm a newbie is impossible to know that is forbidden posting proof of authentication or other things related to airdrops since some threads exists only for that reason.
Furthermore there are always thousands of other posts on this threads and since you're a newbie how could you know that you shouldn't join??
Anyway thanks again for your answers
I'm not going to write to a moderator for an account of 2 months old that have got nearly 60 posts, it's time lost for nothing. Because you gte banned by posting on airdrops threads because this airdrops require you to do it.
Well maybe it's better if at first, before becoming public, that all the threads (and the airdrops and bounty one above all) should be inspected by a moderator. Not that you ban all the new users that in good faith follow a wrong indication.

Seems to me like that the elder users want to mantain their privileges above new users, like a power game.

Bye everyone
And be careful when somone asks you to post a proof or to comment on their thread... It could be a trap!
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June 26, 2018, 08:05:38 AM
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I don't believe people should be permabanned for this either, but I also know it's incredibly annoying to have to deal with literally thousands of people doing this every day and there are stickies in that alt coin board warning you not to do this and people should take heed of them more than anything. The threads are usually trashed that require these sorts of posts and accounts that create such threads are seemingly being temp banned by mprep as they should be, but for individual cases like this all I can do is advise contacting mprep (if in fact it was him issuing the bans).

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June 26, 2018, 09:00:15 AM
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I have contacted mprep and waited for my account back. I just
confused with writing 7 days there. 2 months ago my account got banned and until now still locked. hope this helps enough ...
thanks Mr. Hilariousetc for ur advice!
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June 26, 2018, 10:50:43 AM
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I don't believe people should be permabanned for this either, but I also know it's incredibly annoying to have to deal with literally thousands of people doing this every day and there are stickies in that alt coin board warning you not to do this and people should take heed of them more than anything. The threads are usually trashed that require these sorts of posts and accounts that create such threads are seemingly being temp banned by mprep as they should be, but for individual cases like this all I can do is advise contacting mprep (if in fact it was him issuing the bans).

Well why the ones that make this threads are temp banned while the individual persons that join (also as a newbie or jr.member, so with not so much experience of the forum) get permabanned without wanr immediatly.
Not so fair.
I'll write to mpep but I already know the answer. You did shitty post so we ban you.
Furthermore getting merit by now is almost impossible for new users. It seems like a monarchy to me lol.
I'll suggest him to put more attention when new airdrops and bounty threads get published for preventing a massive ban attack.
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June 26, 2018, 10:55:55 AM
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And then you find people buying and selling accounts. Stealing and seling accounts. And they are still on the forum. And do whatever they want without getting banned.
Not so fair I repeat.
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June 26, 2018, 01:06:59 PM
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And then you find people buying and selling accounts. Stealing and seling accounts.
Scams are not moderated. So this isn't against the rules.

Meanwhile, spamming (mainly to join a bounty/giveaway/earn extra stakes) is against the rules. And you can get banned for this.

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