Bitcoin prices are controlled. Accidentally or intentionally?

[newinbtc]

When the market falls long term. The market has few new investors, the old investors are no as interested as before. Volume is very low. That makes the profit from exchange are reduced ( Huge whales are big exchages )
To compensate for the declining profit. The whales and the exchanges are linked together to control the margin. Currently, Margin has a large volume (Bitmex no.1 volume). That's why most of the time the bitcoin chart are U-shaped

whenever bitcoin price drops , people who fear or they dont want to loose money , they sell off their coins , In last only few people left who are whales or some other users who are in waiting for long jump. Old investors never drop interest who ever gain profit from bitcoins. they will come back when price will up again + new investors who gain interest from price up + old one  = bitcoin price up

when whale enter market they select a particular exchange and price up in total - they are controlled internationally by big investors who want to make big profit by spreading news and many other ways



 

[Adrin]

If someone says bitcoin price has controlled any Academy or intentionally, I think this news is totally fake because no one can control Bitcoin price. Before I am used typical analysis for Bitcoin price but technical analysis is not perfect so I just follow the chart pattern and candlestick pattern because chart pattern and candlestick pattern are very easy to make Bitcoin price pump and dump. In this world in our Academy can't control Bitcoin price. When people start to invest in cryptocurrency on the time Bitcoin price is growing very fast but when people move in cryptocurrency on the time cryptocurrency is dumping.

[coinplus]

When the market falls long term. The market has few new investors, the old investors are no as interested as before. Volume is very low. That makes the profit from exchange are reduced ( Huge whales are big exchages )
To compensate for the declining profit. The whales and the exchanges are linked together to control the margin. Currently, Margin has a large volume (Bitmex no.1 volume). That's why most of the time the bitcoin chart are U-shaped

Control can never be accidental, but obviously intentional. The idea of whales controlling the market is to take advantage of the small fish.

It is more like their territory as they hold the button and they can do whatever they want with it since they have all it takes to do so, based on the position they hold and the wealth they have amassed with it. However, the market itself is volatile and people tend to respond fast to market movements most of the time.

[5ensei]

There are new players entering all the time. At this point in time last year there was no binance and now they are one of the biggest fish in the sea. Collaborations are therefore unlikely, but they might follow each other and play the same game

[htconem7]

When the market falls long term. The market has few new investors, the old investors are no as interested as before. Volume is very low. That makes the profit from exchange are reduced ( Huge whales are big exchages )
To compensate for the declining profit. The whales and the exchanges are linked together to control the margin. Currently, Margin has a large volume (Bitmex no.1 volume). That's why most of the time the bitcoin chart are U-shaped

I think bitcoin price fluctuations are partly due to crowds but also because sharks and whales dominate the market, you can see that the crypto market is not regulated and the countries that recognize and control , so it is likely that bitcoin jobs will make the market even more difficult to predict. Therefore, with a market that has no peaks and no bottom, you will only be short-term investment to minimize risk.

[elloco4ever]

There are new players entering all the time. At this point in time last year there was no binance and now they are one of the biggest fish in the sea. Collaborations are therefore unlikely, but they might follow each other and play the same game

That's a nice catch we need to be aware of these kind of greedy investors who manipulate the value of bitcoin based on their profits and we small fishes are the losers at the end of the day.

[Koro-Sensei]

Both intentionally and accidentally the price aren't calculated by your half assed money you need to invest large amount of it to tilt the price of BTC we are talking about millions of dollars to move the price and after some change people will be encouraged to invest because of the growth rate it has shown us that was not your real intention yet you manage to influence the people.

[berfanaf]

When the market falls long term. The market has few new investors, the old investors are no as interested as before. Volume is very low. That makes the profit from exchange are reduced ( Huge whales are big exchages )
To compensate for the declining profit. The whales and the exchanges are linked together to control the margin. Currently, Margin has a large volume (Bitmex no.1 volume). That's why most of the time the bitcoin chart are U-shaped

Control can never be accidental, but obviously intentional. The idea of whales controlling the market is to take advantage of the small fish.

It is more like their territory as they hold the button and they can do whatever they want with it since they have all it takes to do so, based on the position they hold and the wealth they have amassed with it. However, the market itself is volatile and people tend to respond fast to market movements most of the time.

I think bitcoin price are controlled with manipulation from big investors. It is not accidentally. The intention of big investors to make more and more money and they do not think of small investors. They only think of their benefit. They don’t care about the rest of the people. This intention is the big obstacle in the way of bitcoin success.

[likerseld]

There are new players entering all the time. At this point in time last year there was no binance and now they are one of the biggest fish in the sea. Collaborations are therefore unlikely, but they might follow each other and play the same game

In my opinion there is no sector of life where big investors do not suck small investors. The same here in crypto world. Whales control the price intentionally and want to keep the big share for themselves. Most of the people withdraw their money due to manipulation. Why big investors controlled the price? This question is not answerable and we cannot solve this problem.

[nl247]

There are new players entering all the time. At this point in time last year there was no binance and now they are one of the biggest fish in the sea. Collaborations are therefore unlikely, but they might follow each other and play the same game

In my opinion there is no sector of life where big investors do not suck small investors. The same here in crypto world. Whales control the price intentionally and want to keep the big share for themselves. Most of the people withdraw their money due to manipulation. Why big investors controlled the price? This question is not answerable and we cannot solve this problem.

It is a thing no one can actually avoid but based on the question you asked on why they do, it is obvious it is for the benefit of making huge profit, otherwise what else would it have been?
All whales are practically greedy as they will keep wanting more, most especially when a market is highly speculative with bunch of weak hands, and they have the best position to drive the market the way they want, but in reality, who would be in such position and not act the way they do intentionally?

[Duchisoue]

I guess there will be the possibilities of both accidentally and intentionally. When a new investor gets educated about the futures of bitcoin then he may go for investing into bitcoins wildly which may result in huge pumping and the vice versa also true. Intentional pumping are known as whales manipulation more frequently in crypto environments.

[wuvdoll]

There are clear boom and boost cycles in Bitcoin, they are useful to shed out all the noobs and leave only the strongest holders that know what they are dealing with. There's a lot of people holding Bitcoin that don't deserve to hold Bitcoin because they don't understand it, so these will be forced to panic sell. Governments and whales will keep stacking up on coins, then they will declare it world reserve currency and then the noobs that sold will complain that Bitcoin is controlled by a small elite.

That is usually the idea normally and that is intentional. Whales play with emotional manipulation which they can easily read from the charts, they know when people are getting highly greedy and they know when they are getting panicky and so many people trying to avoid the market not knowing what is next and they take advantage of all that. It is a normal thing to see and most especially in a decentralized space, and trying to understand that helps.

When a new investor gets educated about the futures of bitcoin then he may go for investing into bitcoins wildly which may result in huge pumping and the vice versa also true. Intentional pumping are known as whales manipulation more frequently in crypto environments.

Accidental manipulations are common for any markets and we have nothing to do with them. But, intentional manipulations should be prevented but that is becoming a big challenge as crypto markets are basically unregulated markets hence whales find it as their playground.

[zedicus]

When the market falls long term. The market has few new investors, the old investors are no as interested as before. Volume is very low. That makes the profit from exchange are reduced ( Huge whales are big exchages )
To compensate for the declining profit. The whales and the exchanges are linked together to control the margin. Currently, Margin has a large volume (Bitmex no.1 volume). That's why most of the time the bitcoin chart are U-shaped

No need to question it was being controlled intentionally as many of them play with the prices so they can gather a good amount of bitcoins in pumping and dumping. In Accidentally i more think on it as a nature or its a cycle that forms a series of charts that can be a basis from now and then which called as technical analysis.

[bozo333]

Bitcoin prices are controlled by demand and supply so it is accidentally change in every day. But peoples are said it is internally so both are possible in this platform.
All the countries are accepting Bitcoin it will legalized in entire world so that day it is completely controlled by internally. Otherwise is undetermined.

[berrygood]

Accidentally is wrong term to me when you buy 0.1 btc at any price, you also control the price but the price also is controlled intentionally by some people or groups for sure.

[BitHodler]

There are clear boom and boost cycles in Bitcoin, they are useful to shed out all the noobs and leave only the strongest holders that know what they are dealing with. There's a lot of people holding Bitcoin that don't deserve to hold Bitcoin because they don't understand it, so these will be forced to panic sell. Governments and whales will keep stacking up on coins, then they will declare it world reserve currency and then the noobs that sold will complain that Bitcoin is controlled by a small elite.

Can't agree more. It's quite interesting to see how even the more senior members here haven't noticed how precious Bitcoin really is. Good thing however is that I gladly buy up their coins if they offer me that opportunity.

I definitely understand that people have bills to pay and other expenses that they couldn't have seen coming, but if all that doesn't apply and there is no reason to sell your coins, then simply don't.

There are so many fake hodlers out there stating to keep hodling till 2020 and whatnot, but as soon as the price goes down they are out. Everyone can hodl during an increase, only a few can do that during a decrease.

That's how real hodlers seperate themselves from wannabees.

[Apaxy]

Accidentally is wrong term to me when you buy 0.1 btc at any price, you also control the price but the price also is controlled intentionally by some people or groups for sure.

uniquely the market is controlled by large whales. So it was, so it is and so it will be. The one who has large volumes of coins, can influence the pricing of I crypto currency. Although there are secret communities of users of crypto currencies, which practically set themselves a goal to change the situation on the market to their own advantage.

[richardsNY]

That's how real hodlers seperate themselves from wannabees.

I noticed a quick mentality switch on social media from people after Charlie Lee's statement that people should at first invest in Bitcoin before anything else. At first I was kinda skeptical about his statement because he's not recommending his own coin to be bought first, but he seems to have a decent bit of influence. Where before people were avoiding Bitcoin they are now talking about how important it is to at least have some Bitcoins instead of none. This of course doesn't mean they will stick to their coins as firmly as we do, but at least it's a positive switch that starts to affect more and more people. Even locally I see people 'proudly' share that they have x percentage of Bitcoin. I like that.

[bitbunnny]

It's funny how stories about control of Bitcoin price appear in time when the price is low or falling. And no one is starting that subject when the price is high. So the conclusion is that people are trying to justify their loss somehow.
To me this is more like a conspiracy theory. Whales are influental but not that much to fuly control the price and the range of value. Just accept that Bitcoin is volatile and dependent on the market.

[Dimon888]

I think that in the crypto industry nothing happens by accident. The prices for bitcoin and other top crypto currency are regulated by "whales". "Whales" themselves create exchanges to earn billions from the air.