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February 09, 2014, 02:49:27 PM
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I'm still looking into this, unfortunately I cannot see where the 2 MAX went to at the moment.. from the transaction history everything looks good, I'll be further investigating this and let you know what I found out
Please do and let us know.

IMO its obvious that its connected to 0.5 payout-fee. I have 5xwithdrawals and I'm missing 2.01 MAX. 4 auto-payouts and 1 manual withdrawal when fee was fixed = 2.01 MAX total.

I finally had some time to look into the issue.

In short: Its a display error, as I though due to the DDoS and Backend going crazy.

You have been paid in full already, these are the transactions directly from the payout logs to your address:



While those payments where processing, the caching process went crazy and probably skipped some shares, therefore the payment LOOKED lower than it actually was. In the end, the "real" payout process recalculated the shares and sent you FULL payments as you can see from the screenshot.

Please check with your daemon/wallet, you'll see those transactions there.

I also found ab "bug" that your "Credit" in the Transaction Summary also contains your unconfirmed coins, that might look strange at first sight but will explain itself once you deduct Credit and Debit_Ap + Unconfirmed coins.
No, this is not the case. Its easy to check with transaction ID: http://max.cryptoexplore.com/tx/3f9bc3cec9cc549dc8bf6b53f369d1fb44e6b0170cb15d109af7c66c1f6e09b8

mWDxc1C6DxNpnJK2CBVnk4EFtKTit9WS5g (Unspent) 0.58045059 MAX

http://max.cryptoexplore.com/tx/2ae5da7aca41f3ee15af787b1212136e326a0143839696d0df4ec76863086350
mWDxc1C6DxNpnJK2CBVnk4EFtKTit9WS5g (Unspent) 0.55595327 MAX

etc. I had auto-payout set to 1 MAX (which is minimum on your pool) so how the hell I'm getting under 1 MAX?Too bad mcxnow doesnt store more than 25 deposits, I could take a screenshot from there also with those same amounts.



I'm sorry these are the logs directly from the daemon..

Did you "withdrew" directly into a mcx address ? Maybe that was the problem ? I've heard from problems before when withdrawing into a exchange address directly. Its much better to have a unique address for every pool/purpose so you know exactly what went where.

i've done several tests now with my (windows) wallet address, with a linux wallet address.. I've set up a few test accounts and switched my miners there to let it mine > 1 MAX and let it auto-payout .. everything works 100% as expected.


Yeah maybe mcxNOW hacked block explorer. I mean how else does it show wrong amounts? If transaction ID shows your pool paid out 0.5X MAX youre still going to say it paid actually more than that?

OK, I bet you made nice amount of money out of those MAX's. Dont need my coins back anymore since price has gone to trash now anyways. I'll be sure to warn people about your pools in the future.

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February 09, 2014, 02:54:09 PM
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I'm still looking into this, unfortunately I cannot see where the 2 MAX went to at the moment.. from the transaction history everything looks good, I'll be further investigating this and let you know what I found out
Please do and let us know.

IMO its obvious that its connected to 0.5 payout-fee. I have 5xwithdrawals and I'm missing 2.01 MAX. 4 auto-payouts and 1 manual withdrawal when fee was fixed = 2.01 MAX total.

I finally had some time to look into the issue.

In short: Its a display error, as I though due to the DDoS and Backend going crazy.

You have been paid in full already, these are the transactions directly from the payout logs to your address:



While those payments where processing, the caching process went crazy and probably skipped some shares, therefore the payment LOOKED lower than it actually was. In the end, the "real" payout process recalculated the shares and sent you FULL payments as you can see from the screenshot.

Please check with your daemon/wallet, you'll see those transactions there.

I also found ab "bug" that your "Credit" in the Transaction Summary also contains your unconfirmed coins, that might look strange at first sight but will explain itself once you deduct Credit and Debit_Ap + Unconfirmed coins.
No, this is not the case. Its easy to check with transaction ID: http://max.cryptoexplore.com/tx/3f9bc3cec9cc549dc8bf6b53f369d1fb44e6b0170cb15d109af7c66c1f6e09b8

mWDxc1C6DxNpnJK2CBVnk4EFtKTit9WS5g (Unspent) 0.58045059 MAX

http://max.cryptoexplore.com/tx/2ae5da7aca41f3ee15af787b1212136e326a0143839696d0df4ec76863086350
mWDxc1C6DxNpnJK2CBVnk4EFtKTit9WS5g (Unspent) 0.55595327 MAX

etc. I had auto-payout set to 1 MAX (which is minimum on your pool) so how the hell I'm getting under 1 MAX?Too bad mcxnow doesnt store more than 25 deposits, I could take a screenshot from there also with those same amounts.



I'm sorry these are the logs directly from the daemon..

Did you "withdrew" directly into a mcx address ? Maybe that was the problem ? I've heard from problems before when withdrawing into a exchange address directly. Its much better to have a unique address for every pool/purpose so you know exactly what went where.

i've done several tests now with my (windows) wallet address, with a linux wallet address.. I've set up a few test accounts and switched my miners there to let it mine > 1 MAX and let it auto-payout .. everything works 100% as expected.


Yeah maybe mcxNOW hacked block explorer. I mean how else does it show wrong amounts? If transaction ID shows your pool paid out 0.5X MAX youre still going to say it paid actually more than that?

OK, I bet you made nice amount of money out of those MAX's. Dont need my coins back anymore since price has gone to trash now anyways. I'll be sure to warn people about your pools in the future.

I'll donate you self mined 2 MAX if that helps you a bit, but there's really nothing more I can do, from the logs everything looks perfect, as you see. I did not had similar requests, so I guess it was a single issue.

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February 09, 2014, 02:55:20 PM
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I'll donate you self mined 2 MAX if that helps you a bit, but there's really nothing more I can do, from the logs everything looks perfect, as you see. I did not had similar requests, so I guess it was a single issue.
icaros had the same problem. And I'll be asking around to see how many others are missing coins as well, I'll ask them to report them here.

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February 09, 2014, 02:58:23 PM
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I'll donate you self mined 2 MAX if that helps you a bit, but there's really nothing more I can do, from the logs everything looks perfect, as you see. I did not had similar requests, so I guess it was a single issue.
icaros had the same problem. And I'll be asking around to see how many others are missing coins as well, I'll ask them to report them here.

Did he also use a mcxnow address directly ?

Yes, please, I already tried to find some people with similar problems but could not find any, I'm currently watching the logs of (all) transactions and see absolutely no problem at all when I compare frontend and backend.

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February 09, 2014, 02:58:59 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438150.msg5023431#msg5023431
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438150.msg5023485#msg5023485
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438150.msg5023998#msg5023998
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438150.msg5024001#msg5024001
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438150.msg5024178#msg5024178
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438150.msg5024272#msg5024272

Yeah, guess im the only one with these problems! Found these in 1 minute and these are just people who bothered to warn others about this. Many others probably didnt even notice ridiculous 0.5 MAX fee.

Edit: one more https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438150.msg5024678#msg5024678

So all in all, a nice payout for you I guess.

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February 09, 2014, 03:04:40 PM
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These are from the thread yesterday, and yes, there was a 0.5 fee if you withdrew manually, as already stated many times, which was fixed asap.

I don't see any progress here as we're turning around in circles, I can send you 2 MAX from my wallet if that helps, I've no idea what else to do more here.

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February 09, 2014, 03:07:05 PM
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These are from the thread yesterday, and yes, there was a 0.5 fee if you withdrew manually, as already stated many times, which was fixed asap.

I don't see any progress here as we're turning around in circles, I can send you 2 MAX from my wallet if that helps, I've no idea what else to do more here.
Sure, but these guys are writing about auto-payout which was supposed to be 0.01 MAX but instead it was 0.5 MAX. So its the same problem I have, they're missing coins. Or well, not missing since theyve been stolen.

I dont care about my 2 MAX anymore, since price is what it is, but some people have lost a lot more than I have and everyone should be refunded.

You could always just say you had a nice payday and be done with this?

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February 09, 2014, 03:12:44 PM
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These are from the thread yesterday, and yes, there was a 0.5 fee if you withdrew manually, as already stated many times, which was fixed asap.

I don't see any progress here as we're turning around in circles, I can send you 2 MAX from my wallet if that helps, I've no idea what else to do more here.
Sure, but these guys are writing about auto-payout which was supposed to be 0.01 MAX but instead it was 0.5 MAX. So its the same problem I have, they're missing coins. Or well, not missing since theyve been stolen.

I dont care about my 2 MAX anymore, since price is what it is, but some people have lost a lot more than I have and everyone should be refunded.

You could always just say you had a nice payday and be done with this?

If auto payments where also at 0.5 MAX, it would be stated in logs, wouldn't it ? The fees that were applied are stated clearly in the logs.

We can keep this conversation alive for the next weeks if you like, you already stated that you're not longer interested in those 2 MAX, so whats your intention then ?! I tried every possible way of getting things right, nothing helps Smiley

Should I buy some MAX, as they are cheap now, and start a faucet ? Would that help you ? Smiley




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February 09, 2014, 03:23:45 PM
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If auto payments where also at 0.5 MAX, it would be stated in logs, wouldn't it ? The fees that were applied are stated clearly in the logs.

We can keep this conversation alive for the next weeks if you like, you already stated that you're not longer interested in those 2 MAX, so whats your intention then ?! I tried every possible way of getting things right, nothing helps Smiley

Should I buy some MAX, as they are cheap now, and start a faucet ? Would that help you ? Smiley
I just dont understand how you can say that everything is OK since you can clearly see its not.

Credit-debit = missing MAX. After that you can verify with transaction id that payouts are indeed not what they should be. If minimum auto-payout is 1 MAX, how can I get 0.5X MAX? This is easily confirmed by transaction id (anyone can check it up/verify this). Made it easy for everyone to check this:



http://max.cryptoexplore.com/tx/66a92562f1f55e22b7bf3cd45ce3de723cb639f5dd8cb05a56034369b9427fef mWDxc1C6DxNpnJK2CBVnk4EFtKTit9WS5g (Unspent) 0.89922714 MAX
http://max.cryptoexplore.com/tx/3f9bc3cec9cc549dc8bf6b53f369d1fb44e6b0170cb15d109af7c66c1f6e09b8 mWDxc1C6DxNpnJK2CBVnk4EFtKTit9WS5g (Unspent) 0.58045059 MAX
http://max.cryptoexplore.com/tx/2ae5da7aca41f3ee15af787b1212136e326a0143839696d0df4ec76863086350 mWDxc1C6DxNpnJK2CBVnk4EFtKTit9WS5g (Unspent) 0.55595327 MAX
http://max.cryptoexplore.com/tx/cc9b8c9b9c1dec3c024476a9d13f7a912c76de9342af35f35133009d12973a4b mWDxc1C6DxNpnJK2CBVnk4EFtKTit9WS5g (Unspent) 0.92665748 MAX
http://max.cryptoexplore.com/tx/45a0d1b235be913b7b59c15110a289de7b843489bd44c381078b0b18b5c4e97e mWDxc1C6DxNpnJK2CBVnk4EFtKTit9WS5g (Unspent) 0.86214141 MAX

..which adds up to Debit_AP     3.82442989 MAX (Credit is 5.83442989, so 2.01 MAX is missing). But your logs show everything is ok, so I guess things are ok!

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February 09, 2014, 03:28:02 PM
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Situation is same for me. I'm still missing those 14 MAX coins because of 0.5 max payment fee.
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February 09, 2014, 03:29:44 PM
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Again.. According to the logs, the payouts were fullfilled as expected, yesterday there was a wrong manual payout fee for a short time, yes, i fixed that, I feel sorry for it, the pool code was from doge, there comes that high fee.

I have no overbalance in the wallet, so at first sight, everything looks good, a closer look at the logs also reveals no problems as the coins went out as expected. Why not register a NEW account, crike2 for example, and mine there for an hour and see if the "problem" happens again. I tried this and could not reproduce it with several testaccounts.

I mined some MAX myself, I can send you 2 if that helps, as stated before.

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February 09, 2014, 03:31:47 PM
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Again.. According to the logs, the payouts were fullfilled as expected, yesterday there was a wrong manual payout fee for a short time, yes, i fixed that, I feel sorry for it, the pool code was from doge, there comes that high fee.

I have no overbalance in the wallet, so at first sight, everything looks good, a closer look at the logs also reveals no problems as the coins went out as expected. Why not register a NEW account, crike2 for example, and mine there for an hour and see if the "problem" happens again. I tried this and could not reproduce it with several testaccounts.

I mined some MAX myself, I can send you 2 if that helps, as stated before.

And how about my 14 MAX? It's 0.02BTC = 10.45 EUR lose for me.
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February 09, 2014, 03:33:34 PM
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Situation is same for me. I'm still missing those 14 MAX coins because of 0.5 max payment fee.

*sigh*

I'm currently mining myself, when I got enough I'll also donate you 14 MAX to your address at the pool

Anyone else want some free MAX ? Smiley Maybe I should start a wellfare maxcoin company ...

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February 09, 2014, 03:35:06 PM
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Again.. According to the logs, the payouts were fullfilled as expected, yesterday there was a wrong manual payout fee for a short time, yes, i fixed that, I feel sorry for it, the pool code was from doge, there comes that high fee.

I have no overbalance in the wallet, so at first sight, everything looks good, a closer look at the logs also reveals no problems as the coins went out as expected. Why not register a NEW account, crike2 for example, and mine there for an hour and see if the "problem" happens again. I tried this and could not reproduce it with several testaccounts.

I mined some MAX myself, I can send you 2 if that helps, as stated before.
Well I guess it would have been easy to "fix" things already.. having "this problem" for a few hours, people losing total 100-200 MAX that was worth ~1 BTC at that time and just hope that nobody notices/gives a shit about 0.5 MAX.

Anyway, feel free to refund my missing coins to address on my earlier message. I've said everything/posted proof so theres nothing more to do here.

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February 09, 2014, 03:35:32 PM
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Situation is same for me. I'm still missing those 14 MAX coins because of 0.5 max payment fee.

*sigh*

I'm currently mining myself, when I got enough I'll also donate you 14 MAX to your address at the pool

Anyone else want some free MAX ? Smiley Maybe I should start a wellfare maxcoin company ...

We don't want free MAX. We just want that what we earned with mining. Those should be on the pool wallet if you haven't selled them already.
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February 09, 2014, 03:37:58 PM
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Again.. According to the logs, the payouts were fullfilled as expected, yesterday there was a wrong manual payout fee for a short time, yes, i fixed that, I feel sorry for it, the pool code was from doge, there comes that high fee.

I have no overbalance in the wallet, so at first sight, everything looks good, a closer look at the logs also reveals no problems as the coins went out as expected. Why not register a NEW account, crike2 for example, and mine there for an hour and see if the "problem" happens again. I tried this and could not reproduce it with several testaccounts.

I mined some MAX myself, I can send you 2 if that helps, as stated before.
Well I guess it would have been easy to "fix" things already.. having "this problem" for a few hours, people losing total 100-200 MAX that was worth ~1 BTC at that time and just hope that nobody notices/gives a shit about 0.5 MAX.

Anyway, feel free to refund my missing coins to address on my earlier message.

I've sent you 2 MAX.

100-200 max ? Yes sure.. This is what the pool "made" since it started on donations and the "so-high" TX_fee:




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February 09, 2014, 03:42:50 PM
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Situation is same for me. I'm still missing those 14 MAX coins because of 0.5 max payment fee.

*sigh*

I'm currently mining myself, when I got enough I'll also donate you 14 MAX to your address at the pool

Anyone else want some free MAX ? Smiley Maybe I should start a wellfare maxcoin company ...

We don't want free MAX. We just want that what we earned with mining. Those should be on the pool wallet if you haven't selled them already.

I dont want to explain everything again, so I donated 14 MAX to you too, feel free to mine again and tell me if any problems arise, preferably with a new account so you can look if Credit_AP * Debit line up or not.

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