Merit/activity ratio.

[fillippone]

Hello,
I am quite new to this board, so I am trying to provide the best post I could as I find the merit system a good way to raise the signal/noise ratio.

I accidentally bumped in a user with over 1k posts and almost the same merit.
Is there a way to have a ranking of best user sorted with high ratio?
Time is even scarcer than bitcoin, so I want to effectively use my time to learn from user that posted quality stuff using effectively their time!

Thanks,
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[funsponge]

There are a few people who could do this but the data would not be accurate. The person you saw with 1000 activity and 1000 merit was probably just given that because they were a legendary when the merit system started. It doesn't provide accurate data because the initial merit people start off with wasn't earned through the merit system but was granted for free.

[mdayonliner]

Time is even scarcer than bitcoin, so I want to effectively use my time to learn from user that posted quality stuff using effectively their time!

Unfortunately you are the only manager of your time. So wise to say, manage your time by your own terms.

Any way some hints: You can start from reading the stickies of each boards and reading what others to say instead of creating topics like this for the next few weeks. After all creating threads like this consumes some of your times, right?

Oh! By the way, search for nullius  
Make sure you do not leave a tail for Lauda 

[fillippone]

Time is even scarcer than bitcoin, so I want to effectively use my time to learn from user that posted quality stuff using effectively their time!

Unfortunately you are the only manager of your time. So wise to say, manage your time by your own terms.

Any way some hints: You can start from reading the stickies of each boards and reading what others to say instead of creating topics like this for the next few weeks. After all creating threads like this consumes some of your times, right?

Given your high merit/activity ratio I will take very seriously your suggestion.
I genuinely thought that a ranking with that ratio would have provided an interesting way of learning fast, but I will stick to more traditional ways.

Oh, by the way, I think I answered you on a different thread, but I still haven’t discovered how to be warned when someone quote you on the board!

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[bitmover]

I keep an eye on this ratio too.
1 activity=1day posting on the forum, basically.

If you have activity=merit, so you get one merit daily. Except for those users who received free merits..

This is what I am doing:

Try to comment topics with less than 5 replies
Answer all questions the best you can (if they have not been answered already)
Make good posts and wait, merits will come
Study about blockchain and bitcoin


I told my strategy here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3306385.0;topicseen

[harryvnn]

If you can make infographic for ratio of Merit and Activity, it would received a lot of Merit. Btw, infographic about merit system always interesting and you need pay your attention, a lot of work to finish it. I would like to see who have the highest ratio of Merit and activity, how they can get it and i can learn some tips to contribute more.

[Probinus]

I keep an eye on this ratio too.
1 activity=1day posting on the forum, basically.

If you have activity=merit, so you get one merit daily. Except for those users who received free merits..

By keeping the data on 1:1 post to merit ratio you could get the difference on how one could likely get a merit for every post they make. Start off with top merited users of all time that would be a good start to check those users.

Time would be a great factor but just as what funsponge said

It doesn't provide accurate data because the initial merit people start off with wasn't earned through the merit system but was granted for free.

[ghettao]

What would you like to to do with that data ? Members with such stats can be counted on fingers.

[Steamtyme]

Could you link the user?

The thing with merit is that if the user is a legendary they could in theory have become legendary anywhere between 775 and 1030 activity.

So if they had 1000 posts between January 2014 ( i think) and January 2018 before the merit started it would seem extraordinary if you don't understand how the roll out happened.

If you were legendary when the merit dropped you then had 1000 merit from day one.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

This is a useless metric IMO because there's so much subjectivity in getting merits, and the fact that you can receive up to 50 per member per post.  Yes, in some cases it's useful in demonstrating who's a good writer (like nullius), but there are just too many nonsense variables to even pay attention to.  I think probably a lot of people feel that way, since I've seen this mentioned before and no one seems to think merit:activity is significant.

[fillippone]

This is a useless metric IMO because there's so much subjectivity in getting merits, and the fact that you can receive up to 50 per member per post.  Yes, in some cases it's useful in demonstrating who's a good writer (like nullius), but there are just too many nonsense variables to even pay attention to.  I think probably a lot of people feel that way, since I've seen this mentioned before and no one seems to think merit:activity is significant.

I appreciate the intellectual honesty, from the first person I see having this ratio >1.
Yes, I am newbie and you are the second experienced user telling me this is a shitty metric: yet I have to find a relevant one.

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[LoyceV]

Is there a way to have a ranking of best user sorted with high ratio?

Top-merited users, all-time
Top-merited users, recent merit
All users who received 1 or more Merit (this shows only earned Merit, excluding the initial "airdrop".

I appreciate the intellectual honesty, from the first person I see having this ratio >1.

Forget about this ratio, it's heavily biased by the airdrop. "Merit earned" is what you're looking for.

[Jet Cash]

I'm nearly at 1000/1000, but as has been pointed out, that'a a pretty useless ratio for analysis. I had a lot of activity when the merit system started, and I received an initial reward of 500 as a hero. If you want to check my merit history, then LoyceV created a list for me -
http://talkmerit.com/projects/merit-history.html

Please don't create a stupid, useless infographic about it, I put people on ignore for cluttering up threads with stuff like that.

[TheUltraElite]

I am quite new to this board, so I am trying to provide the best post I could as I find the merit system a good way to raise the signal/noise ratio.

err what? Why do you even bother about the merit system? Start posting meaningful content in the forum and soon merit will come after you. Then you wont have to chase after merits.

I accidentally bumped in a user with over 1k posts and almost the same merit.

There were default merits to every user at the time of introduction of merit system. So a Legenedary member here on introduction of merit system receives 1000 Merits. So I guess that was what you saw.

Is there a way to have a ranking of best user sorted with high ratio?

No idea. But what is the need?

Time is even scarcer than bitcoin, so I want to effectively use my time to learn from user that posted quality stuff using effectively their time!

If it was from the default merit distribution at the start of merit system - then that person may have been a shitposter.

[mdayonliner]

...the fact that you can receive up to 50 per member per post...

Safe to say - per 30 days. Hope you don't mind point the correct one?  

Is there a limit on how many merits I can send?

Yes. You can give a max of 50 merit to a user every 30 days.

[shilpyh]

There is no such a option called merit and activity ratio. One single post can get 100 merits but you can get 14 activity by 14 posts and activity will update after 14 days.

[coin5haker]

The interesting tool you building here. I bet nullius will be on top. But for majority of users here (sadly including me) ratio would be close to 0. I think only 20 users or so can score ratio above 1. This doesn't mean merit system failed, just we need to try harder.

[fillippone]

This is a useless metric IMO because there's so much subjectivity in getting merits, and the fact that you can receive up to 50 per member per post.  Yes, in some cases it's useful in demonstrating who's a good writer (like nullius), but there are just too many nonsense variables to even pay attention to.  I think probably a lot of people feel that way, since I've seen this mentioned before and no one seems to think merit:activity is significant.

I appreciate the intellectual honesty, from the first person I see having this ratio >1.
Yes, I am newbie and you are the second experienced user telling me this is a shitty metric: yet I have to find a relevant one.

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Me from the past: surprised to see someone with merit/activity>1.
Me from the present:merit/activity>4

[GazetaBitcoin]

Congrats fillippone! That's impressive!

Now imagine what ratio you could achieve if you were accepted officially in the Merit Cycling Club =))) Just kidding.

But seeing your OP now (I didn't know about its existence before), it would be interesting to see a new metric, based on Merits vs. Activity ratio. Eventually, it could be something (no matter its name - let's call it just "New Metric") based on certain intervals. I imagine something like this:

- Rank 0: [0 ... 0.25] ratio (remember, this is for Merits vs. Activity, not for Activity vs. Merits)
- Rank 1: [0.26 ... 0.75]
- Rank 2: [0.76 ... 0.175]
- Rank 3: [0.176 ... 3]
- Rank 4: [3.01 ... 5]
- Rank 5: >5.

It is hard to believe there would be many users with this ratio bigger than 5, thus I stopped there the interval. I imagined the interval bigeer from a rank to a superior one, similar to the difficulty of the merits / activity system, which requires way more merits / activity for upper ranks (example: for becoming Junior you need 1 merit, but for becoming Member you need 10, which means 1000% more merits; for Full Member you need 100, which also means 1000% more than the requirement for Member and so on).

And, of course, it would be even more accurate if such a metric would count just the earned merits, not the airdropped ones.

Edit: oh and about nullius, as I saw his name in this topic also - he is above and beyond this system nullius has not just a Merit vs. Activity ratio > 1; he has a Merits vs. Posts ratio >1

[DdmrDdmr]

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You got me here, reviving this thread … I read it a couple of hour ago (still in the crack of dawn) and I didn’t check the date/time in the OP (nor on the answers). At first, I thought you were playing the irony card, alongside a show of (fake) ingenuity to lead others into some kind of plotted trap. As I kept on reading, it seemed pretty weird that people were playing along, and it wasn´t until I was half way through the thread that I spotted the dates …

On the note of Merit/Activity ratio, in order to be fair, it would need a delimited timeframe to cut out or reduce the effect produced by activity generated before the Merit System kicked-off.

Side note: It could be inconsequential but entertaining to have a thread on "Best Noob comments from when I was a Newbie" (i.e. <= Member). I will refrain though.