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February 09, 2014, 12:34:48 AM |
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Hi everyone. I'd like to launch my bitcoin bank. Basically, it would work like this: Investor | | (1BTC) | Bank | | (1BTC) | Guy Who Wants A Loan | | (1BTC + Interest (10%) | Bank | | (1BTC + Interest (7%) | Investor Any comments before I start designing the website? |
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February 09, 2014, 12:36:20 AM |
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how do you handle defaults?
who suffers from a default?
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KWH
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In Collateral I Trust.
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February 09, 2014, 12:40:47 AM |
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Guarantees? Assets? Who will get the ass whipping if you default? Oversight? Full DOX? Collateral? Then all the legal questions...........
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When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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James222 (OP)
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February 09, 2014, 12:45:12 AM |
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Guarantees? Assets? Who will get the ass whipping if you default? Oversight? Full DOX? Collateral? Then all the legal questions...........
I would only loan with collateral that equals to 105% of loan. |
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KWH
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February 09, 2014, 12:46:33 AM |
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Guarantees? Assets? Who will get the ass whipping if you default? Oversight? Full DOX? Collateral? Then all the legal questions...........
I would only loan with collateral that equals to 105% of loan. Keep answering the questions........ |
When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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James222 (OP)
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February 09, 2014, 12:50:08 AM |
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Guarantees? Assets? Who will get the ass whipping if you default? Oversight? Full DOX? Collateral? Then all the legal questions...........
I would only loan with collateral that equals to 105% of loan. Keep answering the questions........ By default you mean that if I just run away with the money? I presume so. Well I don't have much to say about why you should trust me. I'm hoping to find investors. After a successfull loan, I hope to get people's trust. Oversight? |
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KWH
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February 09, 2014, 12:54:33 AM |
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Guarantees? Assets? Who will get the ass whipping if you default? Oversight? Full DOX? Collateral? Then all the legal questions...........
I would only loan with collateral that equals to 105% of loan. Keep answering the questions........ By default you mean that if I just run away with the money? I presume so. Well I don't have much to say about why you should trust me. I'm hoping to find investors. After a successfull loan, I hope to get people's trust. Oversight? I can list many more reasons why this is a terrible idea but you only need to read the Scam section. I suggest you do that before you start a website. For starters, an unknown holding collateral AND the loan. Unknown holding funding for said bank. Finding investors for an unknown for said bank. This idea isn't a new one and has been tried many times. |
When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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James222 (OP)
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February 09, 2014, 12:58:39 AM |
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Guarantees? Assets? Who will get the ass whipping if you default? Oversight? Full DOX? Collateral? Then all the legal questions...........
I would only loan with collateral that equals to 105% of loan. Keep answering the questions........ By default you mean that if I just run away with the money? I presume so. Well I don't have much to say about why you should trust me. I'm hoping to find investors. After a successfull loan, I hope to get people's trust. Oversight? I can list many more reasons why this is a terrible idea but you only need to read the Scam section. I suggest you do that before you start a website. For starters, an unknown holding collateral AND the loan. Unknown holding funding for said bank. Finding investors for an unknown for said bank. This idea isn't a new one and has been tried many times. I don't see why that would be a terrible idea. Get away your scamming ideas and then write me a list of why this would be bad. I'm gonna go check this post |
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KWH
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February 09, 2014, 01:00:52 AM |
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Guarantees? Assets? Who will get the ass whipping if you default? Oversight? Full DOX? Collateral? Then all the legal questions...........
I would only loan with collateral that equals to 105% of loan. Keep answering the questions........ By default you mean that if I just run away with the money? I presume so. Well I don't have much to say about why you should trust me. I'm hoping to find investors. After a successfull loan, I hope to get people's trust. Oversight? I can list many more reasons why this is a terrible idea but you only need to read the Scam section. I suggest you do that before you start a website. For starters, an unknown holding collateral AND the loan. Unknown holding funding for said bank. Finding investors for an unknown for said bank. This idea isn't a new one and has been tried many times. I don't see why that would be a terrible idea. Get away your scamming ideas and then write me a list of why this would be bad. I'm gonna go check this post I've already started quite a list in 2 posts. You could also get into legal trouble as well. Look for coinlenders in the scam section or do a search. |
When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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February 09, 2014, 01:22:31 AM |
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Anyone who takes an interest bearing loan in bitcoins is either stupid or is intending to default. Due to rising difficulty it's always becoming harder to create more bitcoins. Where does the person who got the 1 BTC loan get the 10% interest from? They have to work really hard to get it. In a scenario where difficulty skyrockets due to BFL getting their Monarchs online and other ASIC hardware, it may become extremely difficult to get enough BTC to pay the interest.
What if the debtor is running a shop and trades their way to a profit and can pay off the interest? You have the same problem. Prices in BTC terms are constantly falling for pretty much everything. Have a look at what mining hardware cost a year ago, and what it costs now.
Paying off interest in a currency that's inflating is easy. Paying off interest in a deflationary currency is economic suicide.
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flower1024
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February 09, 2014, 01:29:09 AM |
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Anyone who takes an interest bearing loan in bitcoins is either stupid or is intending to default. Due to rising difficulty it's always becoming harder to create more bitcoins. Where does the person who got the 1 BTC loan get the 10% interest from? They have to work really hard to get it. In a scenario where difficulty skyrockets due to BFL getting their Monarchs online and other ASIC hardware, it may become extremely difficult to get enough BTC to pay the interest.
What if the debtor is running a shop and trades their way to a profit and can pay off the interest? You have the same problem. Prices in BTC terms are constantly falling for pretty much everything. Have a look at what mining hardware cost a year ago, and what it costs now.
Paying off interest in a currency that's inflating is easy. Paying off interest in a deflationary currency is economic suicide.
see bitfinex for a working btc loan market. difficulty will not always rise (and did not in bitcoins history btw there where times when it got down a little) the only reason for a btc loan i can imagine is that somebody wants to go short (which is valid). i found that 105% colleteral quite amusing: if the price goes up by more than 5% you'll loose (and op still didnt answer who suffers the loss: bank or customer?) also: does the colleteral have to be transferred to the bank before the loan? otherwise it could be cheated. |
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February 09, 2014, 07:00:30 AM |
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Guarantees? Assets? Who will get the ass whipping if you default? Oversight? Full DOX? Collateral? Then all the legal questions...........
I would only loan with collateral that equals to 105% of loan. too naive kid, this only works when you run a btc exchange, where you could lend your coin to people who want to short the market and vice versa. who in this world, would deposit 105btc to you in exchange for a 100 btc loan at a cost? they must lost their mind. think more carefully about your business plan before launching it to the public. |
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February 09, 2014, 07:29:39 AM |
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Any comments before I start designing the website?
Don't do it. Think of something else. |
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James222 (OP)
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February 09, 2014, 02:29:24 PM |
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Guarantees? Assets? Who will get the ass whipping if you default? Oversight? Full DOX? Collateral? Then all the legal questions...........
I would only loan with collateral that equals to 105% of loan. too naive kid, this only works when you run a btc exchange, where you could lend your coin to people who want to short the market and vice versa. who in this world, would deposit 105btc to you in exchange for a 100 btc loan at a cost? they must lost their mind. think more carefully about your business plan before launching it to the public. *FACEPALM* Collateral isn't provided in bitoins. It is usually provided in LTC or any valuable alt coins. And yes, most people give collateral that equals a bit more of the value of the loan |
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February 09, 2014, 06:10:56 PM |
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Hi everyone. I'd like to launch my bitcoin bank. Basically, it would work like this: Investor | | (1BTC) | Bank | | (1BTC) | Guy Who Wants A Loan | | (1BTC + Interest (10%) | Bank | | (1BTC + Interest (7%) | Investor Any comments before I start designing the website? A bank isn't something you start on a whim after drawing a doodle on a napkin, nor does starting it consist of "designing the website". If it's not immediately clear to you why citizen banking is a bad idea in general, I'd suggest paying the first person you can find who can draw a flow chart of themselves, your torso, and a scalpel to perform heart surgery on you; on the off-chance you survive, the recovery time'd make for good reconsidering. |
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February 09, 2014, 06:30:23 PM |
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Hi everyone. I'd like to launch my bitcoin bank. Basically, it would work like this: Investor | | (1BTC) | Bank | | (1BTC) | Guy Who Wants A Loan | | (1BTC + Interest (10%) | Bank | | (1BTC + Interest (7%) | Investor Any comments before I start designing the website? A bank isn't something you start on a whim after drawing a doodle on a napkin, nor does starting it consist of "designing the website". If it's not immediately clear to you why citizen banking is a bad idea in general, I'd suggest paying the first person you can find who can draw a flow chart of themselves, your torso, and a scalpel to perform heart surgery on you; on the off-chance you survive, the recovery time'd make for good reconsidering. +1 wow, this is the first time i totally agree with you and you've been (somewhat) nice! just wow... continue that way and it may be that i even like you! |
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