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February 20, 2014, 01:02:32 PM
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I made some calculations and short test,
and looks like scrypt-n at trademybit.com is not very profitable.

My 8 mhs at Wafflepool made for me about 0.085 btc for last 24 hours.
with scrypt-n on same rigs I get about 3.4 mhs, and with current PANDA and VTC rates I should receive almost same 0.0084 btc.

but now Panda goes down, for calculations I take 0.00000030
https://www.mintpal.com/market/PANDA/BTC
few hours ago it was 0.00000050 and was much more profitable.
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February 20, 2014, 04:42:58 PM
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How about comparison results? Smiley Do you have any finals? Smiley
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February 20, 2014, 05:48:57 PM
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Wow, PANDA tanked hard overnight. That has messed the profitability up badly Sad
It needs to rebound to .40+ to get back in front now.

Thank god for Trademybit moving over to VTC during the night. Scrypt-N multipool FTW Smiley
It still looks still slightly better than Scrypt coins right now.

You can create a spreadsheet to track the profitability of all the different coins with the following formula.
Coins per day = (86400 x BlockReward x Hashrate) / Difficulty * 4295032833)

Blockreward - how many blocks are paid out by the coin
Hashrate - Your hashrate. take 45-50% off for Scrypt-N coins
Difficulty - current coin difficulty

Then you can multiply coins per day by BTC and/or USD prices to work out your real profits.
This obviously doesn't take into account pool and transaction fees, but it is a start to working out profits.

Huge thanks to Jarred for that - http://www.holynerdvana.com/2014/02/how-to-calculate-coins-per-day-for-any.html

If you can find a website that lists all coins, blockreward, difficulty, and btc price you can setup a data import into excel and automate the whole process.
The best I have found so far is Trademybit front page as it has all the info and is easy to automatically import into excel.

If anyone wants my spreadsheet it's here, and I welcome any improvements as I'm a bit of an excel hack - https://copy.com/eCBcBMU6NLMy

Can't wait to see the results from the OP Cheesy

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February 20, 2014, 10:08:01 PM
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Good excel.
How to import data to "raw data" table?
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February 20, 2014, 10:14:25 PM
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Good excel.
How to import data to "raw data" table?

It automatically imports every 60 seconds already Smiley

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February 20, 2014, 10:23:47 PM
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It automatically imports every 60 seconds already Smiley
o, it's perfect!
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February 20, 2014, 10:25:34 PM
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Excellent post!
Very useful information
One interesting thing about wafflepool (that I think, ALL pools should DO) is that, they use password as a difficulty setting.

if you password is: "d=256" you will mine at a fixed 256 difficulty
fantastic!

I always hated the 1024 FIXED difficulty from middlecoin but take it, because the profits where good anyways.

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February 20, 2014, 11:26:59 PM
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It automatically imports every 60 seconds already Smiley
something not work for me, write "can't open https://pool.trademybit.com"
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February 21, 2014, 04:17:55 PM
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Any final results yet?

If you feel I helped:
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February 22, 2014, 02:33:21 AM
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Interesting review, I reckon I know who wins but the clever scrypt-n switching idea might steal victory

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February 22, 2014, 04:49:06 PM
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Why was multipool.us not included in this comparison
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February 22, 2014, 05:19:25 PM
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At least multi-pool doesn't pay in BTC. Maybe that is it  Huh

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February 22, 2014, 06:53:59 PM
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One interesting thing about wafflepool (that I think, ALL pools should DO) is that, they use password as a difficulty setting.

if you password is: "d=256" you will mine at a fixed 256 difficulty
fantastic!


Right now, perhaps temporarily or perhaps not, Wafflepool has changed that, and diff is now hardcoded at 512 as the operator
works on tweaking some things and improving profitability. More details can be found in the wafflepool thread.
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February 22, 2014, 09:14:51 PM
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Poolpicker.eu
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February 22, 2014, 10:47:11 PM
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Poolpicker.eu

Is there an API? This would make it relatively easy to write a script to auto-change your miners to the highest profitability pool.
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February 22, 2014, 10:51:43 PM
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Poolpicker.eu

Is there an API? This would make it relatively easy to write a script to auto-change your miners to the highest profitability pool.
You can always parse http://poolpicker.eu/text.php, but that does not mean it works well in practice. There's a cost from switching, you need to consider unexchanged balance, your ping to those pools is certainly different, past performance doesn't guarantee the future, etc...

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February 22, 2014, 11:19:23 PM
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You can always parse http://poolpicker.eu/text.php, but that does not mean it works well in practice. There's a cost from switching, you need to consider unexchanged balance, your ping to those pools is certainly different, past performance doesn't guarantee the future, etc...

+1

Here is what I posted on the Middlecoin thread:

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Actually this is a lot more difficult that it looks.

All of the information on payouts, etc. from that website are based on old (12+ hour) data.

You wouldn't be doing yourself any favors by switching to a pool that had a good payout YESTERDAY.

What you would need to do is get live data from the pools and then do a switch.

Then you must also keep in mind that most multi-pool's data is notoriously slow to get and unreliable.

But, it is a worthwhile venture.   Grin
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February 23, 2014, 12:41:04 AM
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Looks like cleavermining is the winner!!
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February 23, 2014, 12:46:58 AM
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Looks like cleavermining is the winner!!

Cleavermining  Grin

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February 23, 2014, 09:07:52 AM
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Looks like cleavermining is the winner!!

Where's the final results?
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