mrugala Sapphire R9 280x GB gone to hell

[faalaakh]

I had ordered three cards, so lost 1.47 BTC. He gave me this address to pay 1CECyUgM13GUWQxWS4JXbZrTykgUb9HcEx and looks like he emptied this wallet on 7 February.

Just wonder, is this really worth to him to scam people. If want to steal, steal from government, not from other people. Hope his is happy...?

[nfox]

I investigated and the first group buy is fake, same user, and second was the masterpiece of this scamatory.
We lost our money, thats obvious.

[fenghush]

I was looking forward for his 2nd group buy to be a success so I can get in on his 3rd, but it looks as if it's too good to be true it probably is
I hope you'll be able to track down this person and recover your bitcoins.

[iglasses]

I wish that were possible but tbh I don't even know what Country he is from so at least for my part I am SOL.

What I don't understand is why the last post and the fluff about being mugged, etc.  He'd already gotten away with it so why bother posting again?

Maybe it makes perfect sense that I cannot think like a thief.

[skuser]

He is from Poland, so maybe you can try to search on Polish subforums here...
Anyway to be honest I can only agree this was masterpiece from him, he even created nationalist emotions between his two usernames and made other users defend him. He is at least very good at psychology. Unfortunately the ticket I paid for this theater performance was too high imho

[Megabit monster]

He is from Poland, so maybe you can try to search on Polish subforums here...
Anyway to be honest I can only agree this was masterpiece from him, he even created nationalist emotions between his two usernames and made other users defend him. He is at least very good at psychology. Unfortunately the ticket I paid for this theater performance was too high imho

Agreed my seat cost me BTC2.  A blow that has devastated my mining operation and pretty much shut it down for a while as I attempt to recoup.

[KWH]

[-droid-]

He is from Poland, so maybe you can try to search on Polish subforums here...
Anyway to be honest I can only agree this was masterpiece from him, he even created nationalist emotions between his two usernames and made other users defend him. He is at least very good at psychology. Unfortunately the ticket I paid for this theater performance was too high imho

Agreed my seat cost me BTC2.  A blow that has devastated my mining operation and pretty much shut it down for a while as I attempt to recoup.

how does it shut it down?  keep on mining buddy! never quit!

[iglasses]

Yea I kinda thought I was being careful on this one because the user had done one already and blah blah blah....

the bottom line is that I am coming to the realization that this forum is a glorified sanctuary for thieves sprinkled with the occasional straight shooter.  This place is essentially operating a safe haven for these low lives because aside from some posts here and there the site does nothing to help people once they have been ripped off, which seems to happen quite often. 

The more time I spend here the more I am reminded of online poker in it's hayday of ripping people off.

[KWH]

Some are easy to fall for. Scammers like to start small, build confidence and in the long run, cash out and walk away with a big score. The "good" part is they abandon that account, make a new one and start all over. Many times they already have a sock account that participates in the scam, building Trust and or post count. They then use this one to continue their scams. Protect yourself.

[iglasses]

I'm just in a foul mood and venting.  I'm a big boy and nobody put a gun to my head.

[iglasses]

I was just sent .2BTC and got a PM from mrugala.

If he is a scammer I have no idea why he would do that so for the time being I have to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

[nfox]

What mrugala told you?

[iglasses]

He told me he lives in a not so great part of the world and that he fully intends on paying everyone back but it will not happen overnight.

[Hindski]

If the guy really is in hospital, I hope that he will be alright, but still until he returns the BTCs I am skeptic, about it.

[ziporah]

if t..s - 5
who bought 5 cards can acknowledge he got a refund for his investment, trust can be upped again ...

[mrugala]

EDIT:

Explanation removed - no point of even trying. Wish You would be so sceptic while choosing about escrow and non-escrow options. Would save me and You alot of time and stress.

Other important info from explanation post:

1st refund wave about to end. Currently refunded 6+ BTC out of about 11 total.
2nd refund wave in 2-3 months.
3rd refund wave month after the 2nd one.

[nfox]

He did a 23% refund of total amount, he's a good guy from my point of view. Too bad we cant put a smile on our faces waiting for some 280x's to arrive

[Megabit monster]

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I would like to thank all those who supported me and trusted me till the end, especially iglasses. I received also some "not so nice" PM's, which I understand somehow, but why would You do non-escrow with the money You cannot afford to lose? This is a lesson, even for sellers - use escrow. And this only makes me refund faster to the nicer people, and later for those rude ones


This statement is not very logical. Why do we do non-escrow with money we can't afford to lose?  Because you used tricks with german posters to build the trust up on the forums to rake it in.  If you run a business and you re-invest money made from the business, into the business that doesn't mean you can "Afford to lose it" I don't think any of us who try and run mining operations can "afford" to lose BTC.  Its not like we invested the money and it didn't work out due to difficulty or whatever, we invested the money and GOT NOTHING....  There is a difference there.  We invested in our businesses and you took that investment plain and simple.  Handing out a 27% refund (in my case) doesn't change the fact that I invested 73% of my earnings from my business into you, and lost it due to you. 

Think about it while your 'recovering'  No business can "Afford to lose" its investments when no product or opportunity is presented for profit, its called a 'donation' at that point.

[qosmio]

it is not nice of you to make a fake german customer and use it to show the world german ppl hate polish, many polish and german ppl are friends and you make them look bad with a fake account, it seems you understand german language well.

you say police will not help well fraud is still fraud and if police dont do anything ppl will find ways to help themself so watch out.