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February 10, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
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FFS I missed the crash, how long was it at 110 for?

Looking at the chart, about 1 minute.
My guess is probably less than 10 seconds... (bots do all the trading now)
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February 10, 2014, 11:58:45 AM
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The 102 guy, not that I'm being morbid or dickhead intentionally, is probably hanging somewhere now :/ Soon, the flowers come in.

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February 10, 2014, 11:58:52 AM
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The media are going to love that volatility story.
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February 10, 2014, 11:59:23 AM
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I really don't understand why some were panic selling as low as $500??
(Now price are back to reasonable levels)

This Gox statement of shifting blame is obviously another excuse not to pay out, it only affects people with fiat/bitcoins inside Gox.

Gox has been trading below other major exchanges for days now, Gix pulling away is kind of expected, right? For those who have coins in exchanges elsewhere, there is little to worry... why doesn't those people see that?


It went lower than that. Was at about $100. I've no idea who was selling for that low. Why would they? It's baffling.

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February 10, 2014, 11:59:28 AM
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MtGox has been the cause of most of the crashes. They are not incompetent but are malignant, otherwise they would of closed their doors. But instead they are making good money with throwing the market at any direction they want.

But the Bitcoin community is a flock of emus, who are not able to organize, to finally root out MtGox from the entire market system. When a proposal is made about doing something to protect the integrity of the market, then all the emus will hide their heads in sand and hope that the free market fixes everything...
Most of the bitcoin enthusiasts are moronic get-rich-quick people, who dream about getting rich while doing nothing...

One must see clearly the intention of their action in causing these crashes. Mark and his associate are all inside trading. Only naive idiots dont see it.


This FUD is just way too obvious!
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February 10, 2014, 12:00:15 PM
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The media are going to love that volatility story.

And all the naysayers.
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February 10, 2014, 12:00:18 PM
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I really don't understand why some were panic selling as low as $500??
(Now price are back to reasonable levels)

This Gox statement of shifting blame is obviously another excuse not to pay out, it only affects people with fiat/bitcoins inside Gox.

Gox has been trading below other major exchanges for days now, Gix pulling away is kind of expected, right? For those who have coins in exchanges elsewhere, there is little to worry... why doesn't those people see that?


It went lower than that. Was at about $100. I've no idea who was selling for that low. Why would they? It's baffling.

Stupid ppl hit market order.... thats why
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February 10, 2014, 12:05:20 PM
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There is no flaw in bitcoin.
Here's a statement about Mtgox by a big Bitcoin/Altcoin exchange

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1xih5d/mcxnow_btcalt_exchange_statement_about_the_mtgox/

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February 10, 2014, 12:10:51 PM
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Why don't they start to process some withdraw manually?
They can off course proceed by date, processing first the older requests.

Is there someone of you in Japan that can go and ask? Smiley

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February 10, 2014, 12:11:43 PM
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IF and big IF Mt.Gox survive this you would have to be a fool to stay with them, they are done now, R.I.P Mt Gox

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February 10, 2014, 12:13:47 PM
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Let's just say like this; and I'm defo not a big programmer guy, I handle web programming rather well, and will not talk shit about higher level programming.
BUT as it does give me rather solid insight on how things should work; it's simple:

MTGox had custom implementation that didn't work well and still not working well. Even that aside, they're now saying it's BTC protocol fault for them not being able to secure/work out their platform better.
So, a smart programmer does his best to read up on the problem and in his own interest to cope with the problem. Thus said, if I were to run exchange, especially the big one, IN MY OWN FUCKING INTEREST; I would have made sure that shit works, and no hack kiddie can take me down. It's really simple.

Now, during years I met a lot of people in tech world as that is my part of my job, and you can always find those who are eager to blame UFO; earthquakes, ghosts and vampires for their own lack of knowledge or simply to feed their ego, because, some people obviously cannot do wrong, no matter what happens, they're always right, somehow.

MTGOX and their statement, in tech circles, as you will be able to read about in so many places in following days, is to be interpreted like just a big smelly pile of poop.
I do fear for public though, as public == 98% non tech people who only fear for their money; but well, we'll just have to hold out, as this is actually all too funny.

Well, I had no business with Gox and am only sorry for those that did, and now suffer because of that amateurish bunch.
And I'll repeat again - statement is just bullshit. There is no ground for it in tech aspect.
It's like when you're 10 and you do something bad, mom finds out, and you blame the dog.

All that said, I'm beginning to believe further more that this is all a big malice act, and to shorten things - they need to react adult VERY SOON; like yesterday or die out. It'll help the cryptos a lot in long run.
We simply need professionals at this point who can take on the challenges imposed by rising market.

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February 10, 2014, 12:15:39 PM
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I really don't understand why some were panic selling as low as $500??
(Now price are back to reasonable levels)

This Gox statement of shifting blame is obviously another excuse not to pay out, it only affects people with fiat/bitcoins inside Gox.

Gox has been trading below other major exchanges for days now, Gix pulling away is kind of expected, right? For those who have coins in exchanges elsewhere, there is little to worry... why doesn't those people see that?


It went lower than that. Was at about $100. I've no idea who was selling for that low. Why would they? It's baffling.

Wait wait wait. So someone got bitcoin for ~$100?

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February 10, 2014, 12:16:26 PM
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I really don't understand why some were panic selling as low as $500??
(Now price are back to reasonable levels)

This Gox statement of shifting blame is obviously another excuse not to pay out, it only affects people with fiat/bitcoins inside Gox.

Gox has been trading below other major exchanges for days now, Gix pulling away is kind of expected, right? For those who have coins in exchanges elsewhere, there is little to worry... why doesn't those people see that?


It went lower than that. Was at about $100. I've no idea who was selling for that low. Why would they? It's baffling.

Wait wait wait. So someone got bitcoin for ~$100?

Yeah on BTC-E. It must be a market order.
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February 10, 2014, 12:16:32 PM
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IF and big IF Mt.Gox survive this you would have to be a fool to stay with them, they are done now, R.I.P Mt Gox

As soon they "fixed" the BTC-Problem (!) all will go back there and praise mtgox..... ppl are dumb.

Its a reason their btc price is always 10% higher then anywhere else. As soon they run out of BTC again, they will use next panic to buy cheap....rinse and repeat.
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February 10, 2014, 12:17:19 PM
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>.>

There is gonna be some serious monday morning quarterbacking by all the idiot talking heads in the media.  

That being said, hopefully this little bump slows people from buying GPUs.  Grin
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February 10, 2014, 12:26:28 PM
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http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/

Sure, it's BTC fault haha.
Again, I only regret not having any buy orders at 150. It's not malice if people give you money themselves, right.
Right Smiley

TL;DR for gmaxwell's reponse = it's actually an issue with MtGox, not with Bitcoin.

Too bad that MtGox's FUD press release caused so much totally unnecessary panic.

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February 10, 2014, 12:27:37 PM
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February 10, 2014, 12:28:34 PM
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Why the hell would anyone sell theirs for lower that DOES NOT have their coins at MtGox?(btc-e, etc) ? What idiots. I have been trying to handle this in my brain since Friday why the other exchanges are going lower. All I can come up with is people are stupid.
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February 10, 2014, 12:32:29 PM
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IF and big IF Mt.Gox survive this you would have to be a fool to stay with them, they are done now, R.I.P Mt Gox

I think they know they're done. This is probably just their death-rattle. If people still use them after this then I can't even.

I really don't understand why some were panic selling as low as $500??
(Now price are back to reasonable levels)

This Gox statement of shifting blame is obviously another excuse not to pay out, it only affects people with fiat/bitcoins inside Gox.

Gox has been trading below other major exchanges for days now, Gix pulling away is kind of expected, right? For those who have coins in exchanges elsewhere, there is little to worry... why doesn't those people see that?


It went lower than that. Was at about $100. I've no idea who was selling for that low. Why would they? It's baffling.

Wait wait wait. So someone got bitcoin for ~$100?

A shitload went for 102.

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February 10, 2014, 12:32:58 PM
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This is a f cking bad news!!! That mean the core developers better hurry. I want to withdraw!!

If you want to exit your position, I might be able to take it over.

PM me. Will throw in a couple of pizzas. Wink
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