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July 12, 2019, 02:13:42 AM
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The big questions here can you make a living here even if you are playing for years and have allocated a lot of effort and time studying it, I don't think so it's still a game of luck, the only hard work that you can get from gambling is how to control yourself and how to address yourself when you have to stop playing when it's about time to stop.

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July 12, 2019, 02:47:02 AM
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The big questions here can you make a living here even if you are playing for years and have allocated a lot of effort and time studying it,

casual gamblers cant make a living on gambling except from those pro gamblers that are playing for years and decades because they already exert lots of efforts for learning a strategy on how they can increase their chances of winning  .

I don't think so it's still a game of luck, the only hard work that you can get from gambling is how to control yourself and how to address yourself when you have to stop playing when it's about time to stop.

depends on what kind of gambling games you are playing with  ,there are games that are totally luck dependent but there are some that mainly depends on your knowledge and skills  . controlling your self is a hard task so your right when you say that its a kind of hardwork   .  hardwork do really pays off to achieve success in gambling  .
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July 12, 2019, 10:01:07 AM
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The big questions here can you make a living here even if you are playing for years and have allocated a lot of effort and time studying it,

casual gamblers cant make a living on gambling except from those pro gamblers that are playing for years and decades because they already exert lots of efforts for learning a strategy on how they can increase their chances of winning  .

I don't think so it's still a game of luck, the only hard work that you can get from gambling is how to control yourself and how to address yourself when you have to stop playing when it's about time to stop.

depends on what kind of gambling games you are playing with  ,there are games that are totally luck dependent but there are some that mainly depends on your knowledge and skills  . controlling your self is a hard task so your right when you say that its a kind of hardwork   .  hardwork do really pays off to achieve success in gambling  .
I don't find any difference between the the possible Gambler and the professional Gambler ( thing is not accept in my opinion) because both after depends on their luck and how can we say that someone said like will be high by playing that game for years.









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July 12, 2019, 10:40:09 AM
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The big questions here can you make a living here even if you are playing for years and have allocated a lot of effort and time studying it,

casual gamblers cant make a living on gambling except from those pro gamblers that are playing for years and decades because they already exert lots of efforts for learning a strategy on how they can increase their chances of winning  .

I don't think so it's still a game of luck, the only hard work that you can get from gambling is how to control yourself and how to address yourself when you have to stop playing when it's about time to stop.

depends on what kind of gambling games you are playing with  ,there are games that are totally luck dependent but there are some that mainly depends on your knowledge and skills  . controlling your self is a hard task so your right when you say that its a kind of hardwork   .  hardwork do really pays off to achieve success in gambling  .
I don't find any difference between the the possible Gambler and the professional Gambler ( thing is not accept in my opinion) because both after depends on their luck and how can we say that someone said like will be high by playing that game for years.

Gambling, generally, is a game of chance, or luck if you want to call it that way. However, some gambling games are not solely based on it, only partially. Let us take poker, for example. You do not have any control as to the cards in front of you. But if you play it well, I mean, you know how to handle the bluffing, your 3 and 9 could win over a pair of queens. It is not only luck that rules in this gambling game but also a brilliant strategy.

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July 12, 2019, 12:24:09 PM
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The answer to your question depends entirely on what game we are talking about.

Hard work can absolutely pay off when the game isn't just pure chance. There are games against other players such as poker, where you can practice reading language as well as concealing your own, and learning when it is best to check, call, raise, bluff, fold, etc. Or games like blackjack where you can learn to card count and give yourself an edge over the house.

If you are talking about games that are pure chance - roulette, plinko, dice "busting" games, etc. then no, there is nothing you can do to improve your odds.

I totally agree, it depends on what game you are playing if you are into card games like poker then we can apply and relate hard work in poker in the sense that you will study and make good strategies to minimize losses and gain more wins or profits, if you really work hard in understanding the card game or poker then the higher chance of winning.

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July 12, 2019, 03:50:27 PM
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Well, in my opinion hard work is one of the efforts to reap the benefits later, although in the context of the event, in the game hard work is an attempt to master the game that will be followed

if you are in a gambling field you should have smart work and strategy to win in the casino or wedding gaming sites. If you have good knowledge and basic team information means you will be able to make the money in sports betting.

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July 12, 2019, 04:35:03 PM
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actually it is not right if hard work is associated with gambling. because usually the meaning of hard work tends to be positive, while gambling is usually associated with negative things. I think hard work must be in terms of work or business, but the results of work or business should not be used for gambling. Grin Grin

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July 12, 2019, 04:52:52 PM
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The big questions here can you make a living here even if you are playing for years and have allocated a lot of effort and time studying it, I don't think so it's still a game of luck, the only hard work that you can get from gambling is how to control yourself and how to address yourself when you have to stop playing when it's about time to stop.

I disagree with your assumption that hard work can control emotions when trading. Even hard work in trading is wrong, actually not entirely wrong, but not too much portion. In trade, I always prioritize smart work, smart work where we are able to find efficient strategies, consistency in performance, and money management. It's different from when we give more portions to hard work, where we will continue to pursue profits, trade with challenges, be inconsistent.

Hard work is important, but smart work is more important. Hard work can provide encouragement when trading while smart work can provide peace in trading so you trade in relaxed conditions.

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July 12, 2019, 05:37:14 PM
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actually it is not right if hard work is associated with gambling. because usually the meaning of hard work tends to be positive, while gambling is usually associated with negative things. I think hard work must be in terms of work or business, but the results of work or business should not be used for gambling. Grin Grin
Hardwork not only can really help in business. In anything that actually we think can make profitable include gambling, hardwork usually can help in any situation. Like when you keep analyze team that play in football so you can make good bet in sportsbetting, or maybe take best decision in card game.

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July 12, 2019, 08:09:28 PM
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Hard working will work for skilled games like poker. You can study a lot of it and creating an edge on the most users. For all the other gambling options like dice, slots and all the rest it's just all based on luck.

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July 12, 2019, 08:24:01 PM
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Gambling has many fields and most of them don't need for any hard work or smartness it's a matter of luck and choices, you can't expect what's going to happen in that game for example dice games or roulette because what happening behind your screen so you can lose or win that's all ironed by the gambling owners and you can't do anything to change that.
In other case there're sports gambling which depends on your experience and knowledge so you can expect what's gonna happen and with some luck you might have a better chance to win.
So I like to say that there's no hard work count in gambling

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July 12, 2019, 10:41:22 PM
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Hard working will work for skilled games like poker. You can study a lot of it and creating an edge on the most users. For all the other gambling options like dice, slots and all the rest it's just all based on luck.
If you have luck in gambling, no matter what kind of game is that you surely win but if don't have, make a decision to leave before it dried up your pocket. The worse thing happens into gamblers are getting into debt which meant not to happen.

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July 12, 2019, 11:16:02 PM
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I think it is, in some cases. If you say it is pointed to the people who have jobs in the gambling casino then yes, they have to work as hard as they can to feed themselves and their families. The dealers, the maintenance team of the slots, the guards and many more. But if it is to the people who are merely playing for fun, who doesn't think about losing their money then not. When I think about it hard work is connected to good people with good motives in their lives, to earn money.
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July 12, 2019, 11:26:35 PM
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That doesn't count. No matter how hardworking you are in gambling, you can't be success with that. Gambling isn't same with bussiness when you are be able to make your bussiness become bigger. In gambling you only need your luck, and money too.
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July 12, 2019, 11:39:10 PM
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That doesn't count. No matter how hardworking you are in gambling, you can't be success with that. Gambling isn't same with bussiness when you are be able to make your bussiness become bigger. In gambling you only need your luck, and money too.
Right, since gambling is purely based on luck while some are based on certain skills. Hard work won't matter anymore on that field since the house doesn't care whether you work hard or not 'cause all they care about is your how much money you have in your bankroll. Business is a business just like what they said you can't change their mind.

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July 13, 2019, 01:07:02 AM
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I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

I agree with your assessment and observation, we should set aside profit at the start and start setting up rules, guidelines, and insight on how to control our greed and manage our losses and winnings, it really needs a lot of hard work but once done you can enjoy playing without the stress of having to win every time and go after your previous losses, all newbies should start doing this.

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July 13, 2019, 04:26:53 AM
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when i'm newbie i always do invest in trading and gambling then i do some faucets to earn while i learn different knowledge about crypto because i believe experience is the best teacher actually i study that kind of hardwork in gambling like i deposit 10000 satoshi in the site then play again in again then if i lose i will try again to play with 10000 satoshi again so this is the hardwork that you ask OP and this is really working but still there's no assurance another thing after 5 try i win 0.005 btc in their gambling site

That's what I did before when I was  newbie, especially if experienced to win in the gambling site or depending on the games
you played with, because for me I became addicted on dice games but as time goes by, I realized and found out that gambling
will only push you to loss your bitcoin balance from most of the time.
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July 13, 2019, 05:44:10 AM
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Imo hardwork doesn't work on dice sites or games where house edge is the opponent.. But on games like poker where your opponent is a real human there is a chance that your hardwork will pay off learning all the possible strategies for every situation.
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July 13, 2019, 01:21:24 PM
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Doing hardwork in gambling does count and will also change your mind about gambling. You would have more questions about it like does gambling make you rich? Is it really profitable doing gambling?. Because of that some people will be a gamble addict that won't stop gambling until your money runs out and play next time they have money until none are left.

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July 13, 2019, 02:25:51 PM
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With card games, practice and study can make a difference. You'd have to develop you intuition, be able to compute probability quickly and do all that without looking like your counting cards (you'd get expelled from physical casinos).

The same goes for "sports" type gambling where you also play the game rather than just bet, most common example being cockfights and beetle wrestling. The hard work is in breeding for the best specimen, and then maintaining and training that.

For pure luck games, name says it all, it's all luck, not much you can really do to significantly raise your chances of winning.
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