Bitcoin troubles: So i just made 2 transfers

[crazy987]

And after a few minutes it shows up again, both:


Aside from that, i can also see that the transaction from one of the 2 is not correct in the blockchain:
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/13J7qeLgtfcWAaWX8rGqceRbeMHCexB1hW
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1FnjQPkM7wYBWFeNmLBMWfbPJb1sjXHByT

And on a more positive note, my balance has been upgraded with the amount spend as can be seen on the blockchain which is not correct:


What the hell just happened?

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[roslinpl]

can you explain it more clearly?

I dont realy get the meaning ... tx's looking ok

so what is wrong?

[crazy987]

Well, the balance of my btc was 0.39xxx after i sent them.
After a few minutes the transactions popped up again, looking like it was sent again, howeven, my balance went to 0.43xxx as seen on the second screenshot.

Also, the first 2 transactions i sent are getting confirms, but the second transactions none so far.
Also the client im sending it to arent getting any confirms.

So for some reason:
1. The transactions have been sent twice
2. Instead of my balance decreasing it has increased.
3. The client im sending it to (betarigs) arent getting any confirms.

Hopefully this makes it more clear.

[DeathAndTaxes]

Someone is having fun modifying (just the signature not the amount, fee, source, or receiver) and rebroadcasting your tx due to signature malleability.  Not sure if it is just to be an ass, or to prove a point. 

However each tx in the pair uses the same inputs so only one can be confirmed in a block and the network will then drop the other as a double spend.

[crazy987]

Someone is having fun modifying (just the signature not the amount, fee, source, or receiver) and rebroadcasting your tx due to signature malleability.  Not sure if it is just to be an ass, or to prove a point.  

However each tx in the pair uses the same inputs so only one can be confirmed in a block and the network will then drop the other as a double spend.

Ah ok, so i'll just have to ride it out then?
Also after that, will my balance return to the number i had expected?

And how long can it take?

[fasmax]

I had the same thing happen today.
I sent some bitcoins and received a transaction ID but before any or just as the first confirm a second transaction shows up with a different transaction ID and 1 confirm.
So the original transaction appears in my wallet but with 0 confirms.

[crazy987]

7.5 hours in, still not corrected.....

[crazy987]

Ok, seems betarigs approved the transfers, however i still have a higher balance then i first had.
Also i still see the other 2 transactions, even after doing a -rescan & restarting the QT

[xwortel]

you just received free money then...?

[crazy987]

you just received free money then...?

Probably, but no incoming transfers so that seems a bit wierd to me.
What i think i'm going to do is boot up a second pc and install QT there.
then transfer all of it to that wallet and see what happens.

[roslinpl]

you just received free money then...?

Probably, but no incoming transfers so that seems a bit wierd to me.
What i think i'm going to do is boot up a second pc and install QT there.
then transfer all of it to that wallet and see what happens.

try it and let us know what happend and is your ballance + free or normal

[roslinpl]

you just received free money then...?

Probably, but no incoming transfers so that seems a bit wierd to me.
What i think i'm going to do is boot up a second pc and install QT there.
then transfer all of it to that wallet and see what happens.

I have the same problem ( betarigs as well ) but now i cannot use my wallet as i get an error

Error: The transaction was rejected. This might happen if some of the coins in your wallet were already spent, such as if you used a copy of wallet.dat and coins were spent in the copy but not marked as spent here

i still have bitcoin in my wallet i can spend but now i cannot send anything from the wallet what do i do to fix this?

Thanks

try to reset blockchain?
It should do the job propably ... (tell me if I am wrong)

[itsallpc]

you just received free money then...?

Probably, but no incoming transfers so that seems a bit wierd to me.
What i think i'm going to do is boot up a second pc and install QT there.
then transfer all of it to that wallet and see what happens.

I have the same problem ( betarigs as well ) but now i cannot use my wallet as i get an error

Error: The transaction was rejected. This might happen if some of the coins in your wallet were already spent, such as if you used a copy of wallet.dat and coins were spent in the copy but not marked as spent here

i still have bitcoin in my wallet i can spend but now i cannot send anything from the wallet what do i do to fix this?

Thanks

try to reset blockchain?
It should do the job propably ... (tell me if I am wrong)

I will try your solution and delete the blockchain and redownload it and tell you if it works thank you loz

[roslinpl]

you just received free money then...?

Probably, but no incoming transfers so that seems a bit wierd to me.
What i think i'm going to do is boot up a second pc and install QT there.
then transfer all of it to that wallet and see what happens.

I have the same problem ( betarigs as well ) but now i cannot use my wallet as i get an error

Error: The transaction was rejected. This might happen if some of the coins in your wallet were already spent, such as if you used a copy of wallet.dat and coins were spent in the copy but not marked as spent here

i still have bitcoin in my wallet i can spend but now i cannot send anything from the wallet what do i do to fix this?

Thanks

try to reset blockchain?
It should do the job propably ... (tell me if I am wrong)

I will try your solution and delete the blockchain and redownload it and tell you if it works thank you loz

ay, waiting for your reply. I hope it works (it should!)

good luck!

[itsallpc]

you just received free money then...?

Probably, but no incoming transfers so that seems a bit wierd to me.
What i think i'm going to do is boot up a second pc and install QT there.
then transfer all of it to that wallet and see what happens.

I have the same problem ( betarigs as well ) but now i cannot use my wallet as i get an error

Error: The transaction was rejected. This might happen if some of the coins in your wallet were already spent, such as if you used a copy of wallet.dat and coins were spent in the copy but not marked as spent here

i still have bitcoin in my wallet i can spend but now i cannot send anything from the wallet what do i do to fix this?

Thanks

try to reset blockchain?
It should do the job propably ... (tell me if I am wrong)

I will try your solution and delete the blockchain and redownload it and tell you if it works thank you loz

ay, waiting for your reply. I hope it works (it should!)

good luck!

I fixed it by uploading my wallet.dat file to https://blockchain.info/wallet/import-wallet

now i can delete my old wallet start a new one and send coins form blockchain.info to my new offline wallet

[roslinpl]

Great

well done.

Solved.

As it should be.

I dunno why but I mostly prefer android Bitcoin Wallet.
Its working great for me.



And I am not a miner, so I dont need qt

[itsallpc]

Great

well done.

Solved.

As it should be.

I dunno why but I mostly prefer android Bitcoin Wallet.
Its working great for me.



And I am not a miner, so I dont need qt

I am quite happy this happened because it is proof positive that you cannot double spend. So i am happy about that

[crazy987]

Great

well done.

Solved.

As it should be.

I dunno why but I mostly prefer android Bitcoin Wallet.
Its working great for me.



And I am not a miner, so I dont need qt

I am quite happy this happened because it is proof positive that you cannot double spend. So i am happy about that

Im not, takes valueble time away from mining.

[itsallpc]

Great

well done.

Solved.

As it should be.

I dunno why but I mostly prefer android Bitcoin Wallet.
Its working great for me.



And I am not a miner, so I dont need qt

I am quite happy this happened because it is proof positive that you cannot double spend. So i am happy about that

Im not, takes valueble time away from mining.

Although i see your point i was trying to see the brighter side of the issue. Even from a bad situation some good comes from it however inconvenient it may be...

Also as a miner i am sure you must have several wallets 1 for mining one for payments etc etc.

[crazy987]

Great

well done.

Solved.

As it should be.

I dunno why but I mostly prefer android Bitcoin Wallet.
Its working great for me.



And I am not a miner, so I dont need qt

I am quite happy this happened because it is proof positive that you cannot double spend. So i am happy about that

Im not, takes valueble time away from mining.

Although i see your point i was trying to see the brighter side of the issue. Even from a bad situation some good comes from it however inconvenient it may be...

Also as a miner i am sure you must have several wallets 1 for mining one for payments etc etc.

Nope, using 1 wallet with a 15char random generated password backed up over 5 harddrives and 2 diffrent locations

[itsallpc]

Great

well done.

Solved.

As it should be.

I dunno why but I mostly prefer android Bitcoin Wallet.
Its working great for me.



And I am not a miner, so I dont need qt

I am quite happy this happened because it is proof positive that you cannot double spend. So i am happy about that

Im not, takes valueble time away from mining.

Although i see your point i was trying to see the brighter side of the issue. Even from a bad situation some good comes from it however inconvenient it may be...

Also as a miner i am sure you must have several wallets 1 for mining one for payments etc etc.

Nope, using 1 wallet with a 15char random generated password backed up over 5 harddrives and 2 diffrent locations

Oh i use several wallets just in case i get problems like this mining is not affected then

[roslinpl]

Great

well done.

Solved.

As it should be.

I dunno why but I mostly prefer android Bitcoin Wallet.
Its working great for me.



And I am not a miner, so I dont need qt

I am quite happy this happened because it is proof positive that you cannot double spend. So i am happy about that

Im not, takes valueble time away from mining.

Although i see your point i was trying to see the brighter side of the issue. Even from a bad situation some good comes from it however inconvenient it may be...

Also as a miner i am sure you must have several wallets 1 for mining one for payments etc etc.

It is very good that double spent not happen.
And for all of btc users it is more Save and will not make another panic.

So it is very good.

[Abdussamad]

Someone is having fun modifying (just the signature not the amount, fee, source, or receiver) and rebroadcasting your tx due to signature malleability.  Not sure if it is just to be an ass, or to prove a point.  

Are we going to see this sort of thing happen often now that Mt. Gox has drawn attention to it? It's an interesting tactic. Sort of like if you can't beat them confuse the hell out of them instead.

edit: Looks like I got my answer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=460457.0

[crazy987]

Well, things just got a bit wierder.
So i made a blockchain wallet to relay all my BTC there, make a new wallet and send it back.
So, first, offcourse 0.01 sent, went good.
Then the rest in small transfers.

0.02
0.1
0.2
And then the last
0.10724272 which is including a total fee of 0.002

All of the transfers went trough, confirmd ect.
Except for 1

the last transaction of 0.10724272

It is not known on the network, is still unconfirmed.

Status: 0/onbevestigd
Datum: 11-2-2014 19:16
Aan: 1AgfBT3XNuwF9J49R7hiv5Py6spppEmQ2i
Debet: -0.10704272 BTC
Transactiekosten: -0.0002 BTC
Netto bedrag: -0.10724272 BTC
Transactie-ID:: a2b9beae85e11f8fdc8937fed8995b22b43048e6ec01a876e81c9dd8f8e95542

_{sorry for the dutch}

Please note that the copy's of the 2 transactions i sent yesterday are still unconfirmed.

Getting stranger for me.

[Abdussamad]

Well, things just got a bit wierder.
So i made a blockchain wallet to relay all my BTC there, make a new wallet and send it back.
So, first, offcourse 0.01 sent, went good.
Then the rest in small transfers.

0.02
0.1
0.2
And then the last
0.10724272 which is including a total fee of 0.002

All of the transfers went trough, confirmd ect.
Except for 1

the last transaction of 0.10724272

It is not known on the network, is still unconfirmed.

Status: 0/onbevestigd
Datum: 11-2-2014 19:16
Aan: 1AgfBT3XNuwF9J49R7hiv5Py6spppEmQ2i
Debet: -0.10704272 BTC
Transactiekosten: -0.0002 BTC
Netto bedrag: -0.10724272 BTC
Transactie-ID:: a2b9beae85e11f8fdc8937fed8995b22b43048e6ec01a876e81c9dd8f8e95542

_{sorry for the dutch}

Please note that the copy's of the 2 transactions i sent yesterday are still unconfirmed.

Getting stranger for me.

Stop making transactions and read the link I posted above.

[crazy987]

Well, things just got a bit wierder.
So i made a blockchain wallet to relay all my BTC there, make a new wallet and send it back.
So, first, offcourse 0.01 sent, went good.
Then the rest in small transfers.

0.02
0.1
0.2
And then the last
0.10724272 which is including a total fee of 0.002

All of the transfers went trough, confirmd ect.
Except for 1

the last transaction of 0.10724272

It is not known on the network, is still unconfirmed.

Status: 0/onbevestigd
Datum: 11-2-2014 19:16
Aan: 1AgfBT3XNuwF9J49R7hiv5Py6spppEmQ2i
Debet: -0.10704272 BTC
Transactiekosten: -0.0002 BTC
Netto bedrag: -0.10724272 BTC
Transactie-ID:: a2b9beae85e11f8fdc8937fed8995b22b43048e6ec01a876e81c9dd8f8e95542

_{sorry for the dutch}

Please note that the copy's of the 2 transactions i sent yesterday are still unconfirmed.

Getting stranger for me.

Stop making transactions and read the link I posted above.

Ye ill stop it, seems we have to ride it out.
Its now in a blockchain wallet protected under a 16 random char password.
Safe enough for the coming days.

[crazy987]

Well,

It seems for me it has not yet corrected itself.
I still have 3 transactions pending, 2 of which are from the 11th 00:44AM which are double spends.
Any clue when they will be removed?

Also a transfer of 0.10x BTC is still pending, this one is more critical as its current value is 46,50 which at the moment is quite much for me.

[crazy987]

Well now its just getting annoying 
Transfer from the 11th still not verified or timed-out.

How long will it take......

Status: 0/onbevestigd
Datum: 11-2-2014 19:16
Aan: 1AgfBT3XNuwF9J49R7hiv5Py6spppEmQ2i
Debet: -0.10704272 BTC
Transactiekosten: -0.0002 BTC
Netto bedrag: -0.10724272 BTC
Transactie-ID:: a2b9beae85e11f8fdc8937fed8995b22b43048e6ec01a876e81c9dd8f8e95542

[FiatKiller]

I think we'll see it forever in the qt client till there's an update. It's really
no issue except it takes up one the three listed on the main screen, which
is annoying.

[crazy987]

I think we'll see it forever in the qt client till there's an update. It's really
no issue except it takes up one the three listed on the main screen, which
is annoying.

Yup, but for me its also 0.10x btc missing now which i wanted to invest.
So losses will add up.

I had high hopes for BTC, also been a supporter for years now, but this is a blow in the face for me.

[Abdussamad]

I think we'll see it forever in the qt client till there's an update. It's really
no issue except it takes up one the three listed on the main screen, which
is annoying.

Yup, but for me its also 0.10x btc missing now which i wanted to invest.
So losses will add up.

I had high hopes for BTC, also been a supporter for years now, but this is a blow in the face for me.

The transaction maleability thing has blown over. I haven't really seen any new reports of it since that first day. Your problem is a wallet stuck in the past Looks like I spoke too soon. Still a problem it seems .

I suggest you

a) backup the wallet file

b) Use pywallet to remove all offending transactions.

See if everything works now.

Location of wallet directory: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directory
Removing transactions using pywallet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35214.0
General Pywallet thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34028.0

[crazy987]

I think we'll see it forever in the qt client till there's an update. It's really
no issue except it takes up one the three listed on the main screen, which
is annoying.

Yup, but for me its also 0.10x btc missing now which i wanted to invest.
So losses will add up.

I had high hopes for BTC, also been a supporter for years now, but this is a blow in the face for me.

The transaction maleability thing has blown over. I haven't really seen any new reports of it since that first day. Your problem is a wallet stuck in the past Looks like I spoke too soon. Still a problem it seems .

I suggest you

a) backup the wallet file

b) Use pywallet to remove all offending transactions.

See if everything works now.

Location of wallet directory: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directory
Removing transactions using pywallet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35214.0
General Pywallet thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34028.0

I can try, but will it also give me my 0.10btc back?
As for me that is the most important at the moment.

[Abdussamad]

I can try, but will it also give me my 0.10btc back?
As for me that is the most important at the moment.

Try it and find out.

edit: Basically if a transaction has not been included in the blockchain it is like it never happened.

[roslinpl]

Yes it is.

Blockchain have a database with all transactions, and each new one appears there suddenly after you make a transfer.

[FiatKiller]

I think we'll see it forever in the qt client till there's an update. It's really
no issue except it takes up one the three listed on the main screen, which
is annoying.

Yup, but for me its also 0.10x btc missing now which i wanted to invest.
So losses will add up.

I had high hopes for BTC, also been a supporter for years now, but this is a blow in the face for me.

The transaction maleability thing has blown over. I haven't really seen any new reports of it since that first day. Your problem is a wallet stuck in the past Looks like I spoke too soon. Still a problem it seems .

I suggest you

a) backup the wallet file

b) Use pywallet to remove all offending transactions.

See if everything works now.

Location of wallet directory: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directory
Removing transactions using pywallet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35214.0
General Pywallet thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34028.0

thanks for the link, I will try it