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October 04, 2011, 01:10:49 PM |
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So have any cards been given out yet? Weren't you guys aiming for Monday?
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October 04, 2011, 05:56:21 PM |
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I have also put some thought into management of the 'hash lists'. Compromise of these could lose funds, and they need to be handed out to 'distributors/printers' in the heat of battle.
First of all, you are doing really great work here. My suggestion for management of the hash list is to make all the tools for generating these cards public. Then donors can actually just fund and generate the cards themselves to hand out.
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October 04, 2011, 07:17:11 PM |
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I have also put some thought into management of the 'hash lists'. Compromise of these could lose funds, and they need to be handed out to 'distributors/printers' in the heat of battle.
First of all, you are doing really great work here. My suggestion for management of the hash list is to make all the tools for generating these cards public. Then donors can actually just fund and generate the cards themselves to hand out. In my little prototype thingy, I had a set of little files of the form: ows-pr1.dat ows-pr2.dat ... These files contain simply a set of 'hashes' (though the form I choose was two-random-word sets instead of random chars.) These, along with possibly a binary (with source) which produced .ps or .pdf files would be given out to volunteers who wanted to print and distributed hand-outs. (A variation would be that the central server generates the hand-outs to print, but it does not matter much.) I anticipated these files being generated by a main system mainly to avoid hash collisions, but also to track somewhat what the use rate of different distributions would be. Part of the reason for doing so would be to detect and limit fraud. That is, if some genius distributor got the idea of cashing in all the handouts himself it could probably be noticed and dealt with. But it is the case that it would be quite trivial to accept donations to be assigned only to a specific -pr{n}.dat, and I see not good reason why that could not be an option. Or just have a whole different campaign and let the interested party do his/her own 'campaign page' for it (and have a distributor list of their own if they want.)
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October 04, 2011, 07:33:24 PM |
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I have also put some thought into management of the 'hash lists'. Compromise of these could lose funds, and they need to be handed out to 'distributors/printers' in the heat of battle.
First of all, you are doing really great work here. My suggestion for management of the hash list is to make all the tools for generating these cards public. Then donors can actually just fund and generate the cards themselves to hand out. In my little prototype thingy, I had a set of little files of the form: ows-pr1.dat ows-pr2.dat ... These files contain simply a set of 'hashes' (though the form I choose was two-random-word sets instead of random chars.) These, along with possibly a binary (with source) which produced .ps or .pdf files would be given out to volunteers who wanted to print and distributed hand-outs. (A variation would be that the central server generates the hand-outs to print, but it does not matter much.) ... Let me just add that in any dev work I might do on such a system I would expect to keep it in a form which could fairly easily be operated by anyone. That is to say, the org structure and server implementation would be conducive to dropping it onto a machine, hooking it up to a domain name, and going. And it would be open source of course. Managing doner pool wallet(s) would be better done on a different machine with some sort of a limited API for communications, but I think that the necessary operations which the 'server system' would need of the 'banking system' would be pretty minor so it should be relatively easy to harden.
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October 04, 2011, 08:31:58 PM |
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I'll be handing out bitcoin material and buttons starting Oct. 15 in Madison Wisconsin. We will be representing the 99% of people who are not rich, and showing our support for our brothers gathering on Wall St. Here in Wisconsin we have already thrown out two of our politicians and Gov. Walker is next. Join us as we take back our government.
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October 05, 2011, 12:26:40 AM |
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One last brainstorming thought I just had (when I should be working...)
It should be possible under a 'just-in-time' hand-out funding scheme, to create a wallet for each _donor_. The donor could then decide if they liked the way the campaign was progressing and add to or withdraw their funding autonomously and quickly.
The system forming up in my mind is to have enough flexibility that there could be quite a variation in the way different campaigns are operated. It could also be used for a range of promotional things as well.
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The single most important thing to me is that as many people as possible are introduced to Bitcoin, and in such a way that they do not end up getting burnt. That is to say, they at least have exposure to info they need to protect themselves.
The second most important thing to me is that any system I am involved with does not collect data on users or at the very least, is very transparent to users about what info is being collected and how it is being used (e.g., the IP address from where the user came.)
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October 05, 2011, 01:48:18 AM |
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Appreciated. I was a little bit bummed that there seemed to be no specific mention of trentzb: - managing the donations and doing a pretty detailed outline of them. - doing the QR code generation work which I believe ended up being used (?) - having a good deal of participation in design work and ideas. I apologize if the lack of mention was per trentzb's wishes (or if the mapping between usernames on this forum is inaccurate in my mind.)
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October 05, 2011, 02:07:50 AM |
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Appreciated. I was a little bit bummed that there seemed to be no specific mention of trentzb: - managing the donations and doing a pretty detailed outline of them. - doing the QR code generation work which I believe ended up being used (?) - having a good deal of participation in design work and ideas. I apologize if the lack of mention was per trentzb's wishes (or if the mapping between usernames on this forum is inaccurate in my mind.) The QR generation work isn't ready yet but will be used later on (currently only renders properly in browsers that won't print the background!) but he's doing a great job on it sofar, he should be credited with opening the IRC in the firstplace as well
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"If we don't hang together, by Heavens we shall hang separately." - Benjamin Franklin
If you found that funny or something i said useful i always appreciate spare change 1PczDQHfEj3dJgp6wN3CXPft1bGB23TzTM
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October 05, 2011, 02:16:09 AM |
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Appreciated. I was a little bit bummed that there seemed to be no specific mention of trentzb: - managing the donations and doing a pretty detailed outline of them. - doing the QR code generation work which I believe ended up being used (?) - having a good deal of participation in design work and ideas. I apologize if the lack of mention was per trentzb's wishes (or if the mapping between usernames on this forum is inaccurate in my mind.) afiak, Yifu made this page for trentzb so he can distribute donations properly. I'll tell him about this.
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October 05, 2011, 02:20:33 AM Last edit: October 05, 2011, 02:07:15 PM by Sannyasi |
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transfering my bitcoins to my wallet right now and updating my block chain. 1.5 bitcoins coming your way. This MUST be!
i'd like to add also, if this turns into a bigger ordeal i will gladdly donate all my bitcoins and anything els i can... it's a sad thing if this thing dies
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October 05, 2011, 02:29:18 AM |
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Sent 1BTC. Don't send it back to me. Get the job done. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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October 05, 2011, 04:45:57 PM |
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Yifu - on the transparency page (looks great btw!) please mark my work as pro bono. I won't be requesting compensation. My compensation will be if just one angry socialist discovers Bitcoin and comes to learn what free market really means ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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October 06, 2011, 04:52:45 PM Last edit: October 22, 2011, 02:01:22 PM by jonathan |
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3 BTC donated. https://blockexplorer.com/t/3xVD9dd1yesend any *return to* btc to occupy wall st: 1Q7DQVTubbUqr5by2YoZJRKCEzj9D3LQ9w
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October 08, 2011, 10:36:04 PM |
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October 09, 2011, 04:41:28 AM |
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Card has two much text to look slick and modern. I think the slogan at the top should be shortened considerably. No good ideas yet though.
Also, consider the following changes:
replace: decentralized, peer-to-peer -> open source, peer-to-peer (decentralized is redundant and not a buzz word, open source is a buzz word) deletion: it is a grand ... fiat money (this is uninformative and irrelevant to target audience) deletion: "obsolete the fed" (obsolete is not a verb, moreover target audience wants an alternative to Wall Street banks, not the FED) replace: you're invited to learn more about bitcoin -> To learn more about bitcoin
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October 09, 2011, 03:08:54 PM |
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I just sent 3.5btc, if for some reason they are not used for this please donate them to Occupy Wall Street. Thank You.
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October 10, 2011, 03:48:25 AM Last edit: October 10, 2011, 02:54:16 PM by pekv2 |
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Showing my support. Donated .5, it should come from 12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 , but if the project fails? or something, if you want, send that .5 somewhere where it is needed. A project like this or w/e.
Edit: Came from 1GrjT4c9ArPxxnY3D1p5oWHjpaZic9HNwS linked to 12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9
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October 11, 2011, 03:44:51 AM Last edit: October 11, 2011, 04:04:06 AM by jjiimm_64 |
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5 bitcoins sent. AWSOME work so far.
btc transactioin: 030fac20b0b3eca657a9c886d84a827f0dc79ecd7647e12a91bee54c220bff5e
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October 11, 2011, 01:27:43 PM Last edit: October 11, 2011, 04:03:34 PM by nefanon |
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Is there somewhere where I can see updates on the progress of this project? Can you update the 1st post? EDIT: Found it! (Thanks deslok)
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