Bitcoin Forum
May 05, 2024, 08:41:24 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 2 [3] 4 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Maybe BTC wont last because NO ONE really profits from it...  (Read 404 times)
genlocy
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 0


View Profile
July 05, 2018, 04:58:03 PM
 #41

You are somehow right. But not totally right. Yes all the crypto-currency is not real, I do agree with this. But, bitcoin is secure and safe. Once you have the coin then you are the only owner of those coin if it is bitcoin. And the profit. Well, Actually it is a long time investment. Think of those who buy bitcoin when the value was like 500$ or 1000$. How much they profit?
1714898484
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714898484

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714898484
Reply with quote  #2

1714898484
Report to moderator
Even if you use Bitcoin through Tor, the way transactions are handled by the network makes anonymity difficult to achieve. Do not expect your transactions to be anonymous unless you really know what you're doing.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
Jetblack01 (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 67
Merit: 0


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 09:17:25 AM
 #42

I still feel like I didnt get my true point accross...

We all invest in Bitcoin and we all profit from it when it goes up.  For some of us who day trade, you make money thru the volatility.

What Im trying to sayi is.... there isnt a CEO of Bitcoin that will reap huge benefits.  There are people with lots of bitcoin but thats not the same.

Im saying in comparison to a centralized Token/coin.   Lets use bcash for example again...

The creators of Bcash will continuously keep pushing for their coin to take first place because they financially benefit from it most. They can potentially team up with miners and merchant services, huge corporations because they have a face and the human factor.  They can create deals and shake hands. 

Who is doing this for bitcoin??? Huh

I know Bitcoin has  strong support in getting bitcoins accepted everywhere, but I think with the right amount of money behind an alt coin, with the right connections and timing, it can possibly take first place one day. 

Does anyone else think  this is possible???

ETHtotheMOON1
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 280
Merit: 3


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 09:26:21 AM
 #43

I look at BTC as the greatest thing for our world.  We need digital currency.  It makes sense.   But,  we live in a world where we are driven by greed and profit.   So with that said....

If someone creates a ALT coin to compete with BTC for first place, I think eventually that ALT coin will get there.  Because at the end of the day, if that 'ALT COIN" makes enough money they can continuously push their "ALT COIN to surpass BTC.   

I dont see anyone financially backing up BTC.   
I see Bcash and their owners making deals.
I see Ripple making deals
I see pretty much everyone else making deals
And pretty soon those deals that these "ALT Coins" are making will eventually climb them into the #1 spot


PLus, people are shorting BTC all day long.  It sucks, because im the "buy during the dip" guy.


my opinions only.... im ready for the backlash

bitcoin is not supposed to make people millionaires. It's here to cut the centralized banking systems and bring the money back to the hands of regular people. Obviously you can't understand that

▰▰▰▰ BLACK ▰▰▰▰
 ▰▰▰▰ Insurance Company on Blockchain  ▰▰▰▰
http://www.black.insure/
Cepot
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 243
Merit: 10


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 09:32:26 AM
 #44

it seems you have never benefited from BTC, why you predict bitcoin will not last, I am still sure bitcoin will still survive in the first position of all krypto Grin Grin
AliMan
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2002
Merit: 502


Vave.com - Crypto Casino


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 09:37:25 AM
 #45

You are somehow right. But not totally right. Yes all the crypto-currency is not real, I do agree with this. But, bitcoin is secure and safe. Once you have the coin then you are the only owner of those coin if it is bitcoin. And the profit. Well, Actually it is a long time investment. Think of those who buy bitcoin when the value was like 500$ or 1000$. How much they profit?

This is a false statement and should be ignored.  We all know how beneficial and helpful bitcoin is so telling me this kind of comment will really bring me into disgust. A lot of people have benefited from btc so how come you're saying that it is not. Well it's just a matter of effort in order to be successful in here.

Jetblack01 (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 67
Merit: 0


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 09:45:53 AM
 #46



I do understand the purpose of and why Bitcoin was created.  I believe in it.  This is why Im holding it and consider it to be potentially one of our final currencies to replace fiat...   I want to know everyones opinion about having some other coin/token aiming to take its place.  and what the possibilities of that is.

And my understanding has changed quite a bit since posting this a few days ago.

Exchanges financially benefit from bitcoin , but they probably financially benefit just as much from altcoins too.
burakdat
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 252
Merit: 2

"I invest and Doing Bounty Campaign"


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 09:50:13 AM
 #47

Actually you are wrong when you say that no one really profits from it. If you have observe the market which is highly volatile that means those who day trade had earned on it already. Some of them are using a system to day trade. ANother thing that that others are earning is mining, those exchanges, and ICO projects which gather relatively huge amount of fiat money for the project to implement and created an opportunity for some other individuals.

JUR Alliance   |   https://jur.io/   |   Join the Legal Revolution!
Justice as a Service Infrastructure
goodvibes05
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 252
Merit: 10


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 11:07:16 AM
 #48

Bitcoin will not reach the highest peak of it's popularity if no ones gets profits from it. Bitcoin lasts this long because many investors and many people believes in the market potential of cryptocurrency. It is beneficial for bitcoin believers.

▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀     │      JINBI      │       T H E   G O L D E N   I C O     ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
████████████                     JOIN ICO  -  21st  J U N E                     ████████████
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄       Whitepaper     Telegram     Twitter     Reddit        ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
CCF_news
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 88
Merit: 0


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 11:17:15 AM
 #49

No altcoin will ever beat beatcoin. Bitcoin will always take its first place, as its technology is constantly being improved and does not stand still. Do you really think that something can overtake Bitcoin?
arthotdog
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 462
Merit: 100


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 12:15:50 PM
 #50

I look at BTC as the greatest thing for our world.  We need digital currency.  It makes sense.   But,  we live in a world where we are driven by greed and profit.   So with that said....

If someone creates a ALT coin to compete with BTC for first place, I think eventually that ALT coin will get there.  Because at the end of the day, if that 'ALT COIN" makes enough money they can continuously push their "ALT COIN to surpass BTC.   

I dont see anyone financially backing up BTC.   
I see Bcash and their owners making deals.
I see Ripple making deals
I see pretty much everyone else making deals
And pretty soon those deals that these "ALT Coins" are making will eventually climb them into the #1 spot


PLus, people are shorting BTC all day long.  It sucks, because im the "buy during the dip" guy.


my opinions only.... im ready for the backlash
Well most of your sights are right,this what make bitcoin drops popularity those greed that manipulates market,added those weak handed humans that with just a small drop from the price they sell instantly their coins without little patience and this really sucks

Thats why i love your arguments since i guess this is the right time to tackle this serious matters for the benefits of us al
Aikidoka
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1078
Merit: 342


Sinbad Mixer: Mix Your BTC Quickly


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 12:41:19 PM
 #51

What makes you sure that no one is not getting profits from bitcoin? Big investors are profiting from bitcoin. People who bought low and sold high did make a huge profit out of bitcoin. Basically, everyone is getting profits from bitcoin. And to prove that, look at the price last year. It had a huge increase. Perhaps you are saying that because the price has fallen and it still has not grown back yet. You need to be a little bit patient.
jhache
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 518
Merit: 100


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 06:07:18 PM
 #52

You have no idea how wrong you are regarding how the markets work. You don't require a financial banking to succeed in this world, Bitcoin was created with zero money taken from anyone. If you know anything about the open source community than you might have known that Bitcoin has them developing for it.

acheampong64
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 588
Merit: 100



View Profile
July 06, 2018, 06:27:44 PM
 #53

Well, if you have taken a little review about the altcoins, you'd realize they all have their specific reasons for which they were created for and not all of them were made to compete with BTC. And by the way, who said no one benefits from BTC, I have used Bitcoin in so many different ways buddy.
n0ne
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2562
Merit: 548


8ombard - Pick, Play, Prosper!


View Profile WWW
July 06, 2018, 06:32:07 PM
 #54

Bitcoin as well other digital currencies would have never gained such a popularity if none has benefitted out of it. Importantly the benefits that each and every user got through bitcoin has made it reach large user network without any promotional advertising and just through the word of mouth spreading.

█████▄▄██
███▄█████
██▄███████▄
████████████████
███▀██████████▀
██▄████████████▄
░█████▀▀▀▀▀▀█████
████▀████████▀████
▀▀▀▀▄▄▄▄▄█████████
█████▀███████▄████
███████▀▀▄▄▄█████
███████████████▀
████████████▀▀
OMBARD.com|.
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
██████░██░████░██
▄▄░▄▄░▄▄░▄▄░▄▄░▄▄▄▄
▀▀░▀▀░▀▀░▀▀░▀▀░▀▀▀▀
██████████████
▄▄░▄▄▄▄░▄▄░▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀░▀▀▀▀░▀▀░▀▀▀▀▀▀
██░██░██████████
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄░▄▄░▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀░▀▀░▀▀▀▀
.
PICK,
PLAY,
PROSPER!
|.

██████
██████████
██████████
██████████████
████████████████
████████████████
████████████████
████████████████
████████████████
█████████████████   ██
PROVABLY
FAIR
1%█████████████████   ██
HOUSE
EDGE
100%█████████████████   ██
DEPOSIT
BONUS
.
  Play now  
Slow death
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3010
Merit: 1100


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 08:14:35 PM
 #55

If someone creates a ALT coin to compete with BTC for first place, I think eventually that ALT coin will get there. 

Have you seen how many alt coins there are? Currently there are 1612 altcoins according to coinmarketcap and see the marketcap of these altcoins. Is a very low marketcap, see the use of these altcoins. you will see that more than 50% of these altcoins have no use, they were created only for certain dev to become rich, nothing more. And we have the issue of decentralization, the altcoins are centralized, the dev control everything. is as if they were a gang. so it's much better to use bitcoin than to use an altcoin.

Big investors are profiting from bitcoin.

truth

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
jak3
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 08:22:51 PM
 #56

I do not agree with the op. I think Bitcoin has given a lot of profit to a lot of people without any selfishness. The old coins who are running them they need profit. If they do not get any profit from it and we will not Run anymore. Buy with Bitcoin we do not have that type of problem Bitcoin can be used without of thinking about what they will get all we have to do this just think about yourself and how we are going to use it and that will fuel the Bitcoin community. For me, Bitcoin is number 1 and it will be always number one because it's a nonprofit system and all the other systems are profit making system.
darkangel11
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2352
Merit: 1345


Defend Bitcoin and its PoW: bitcoincleanup.com


View Profile
July 06, 2018, 08:37:51 PM
 #57

Bitcoin will not reach the highest peak of it's popularity if no ones gets profits from it. Bitcoin lasts this long because many investors and many people believes in the market potential of cryptocurrency. It is beneficial for bitcoin believers.

Are you joking? What do you mean by "profits"? Are you here only for he purpose of fiat in and fiat out trades? Bitcoin is much more than just an investment vehicle. While profits are nice many people came here to help spread the word about it, introduce payments into their own businesses, find a way to work for BTC, and so on.
You're so far from the truth by talking about its peak. If you want that peak to be a bubble that pops once those on top feel like they've gained enough, that's the way to go.

███████████████████████████
███████▄████████████▄██████
████████▄████████▄████████
███▀█████▀▄███▄▀█████▀███
█████▀█▀▄██▀▀▀██▄▀█▀█████
███████▄███████████▄███████
███████████████████████████
███████▀███████████▀███████
████▄██▄▀██▄▄▄██▀▄██▄████
████▄████▄▀███▀▄████▄████
██▄███▀▀█▀██████▀█▀███▄███
██▀█▀████████████████▀█▀███
███████████████████████████
.
.Duelbits.
..........UNLEASH..........
THE ULTIMATE
GAMING EXPERIENCE
DUELBITS
FANTASY
SPORTS
████▄▄█████▄▄
░▄████
███████████▄
▐███
███████████████▄
███
████████████████
███
████████████████▌
███
██████████████████
████████████████▀▀▀
███████████████▌
███████████████▌
████████████████
████████████████
████████████████
████▀▀███████▀▀
.
▬▬
VS
▬▬
████▄▄▄█████▄▄▄
░▄████████████████▄
▐██████████████████▄
████████████████████
████████████████████▌
█████████████████████
███████████████████
███████████████▌
███████████████▌
████████████████
████████████████
████████████████
████▀▀███████▀▀
/// PLAY FOR  FREE  ///
WIN FOR REAL
..PLAY NOW..
posi
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2226
Merit: 579


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
July 07, 2018, 05:28:26 AM
 #58

If someone creates a ALT coin to compete with BTC for first place, I think eventually that ALT coin will get there. 

Have you seen how many alt coins there are? Currently there are 1612 altcoins according to coinmarketcap and see the marketcap of these altcoins. Is a very low marketcap, see the use of these altcoins. you will see that more than 50% of these altcoins have no use, they were created only for certain dev to become rich, nothing more. And we have the issue of decentralization, the altcoins are centralized, the dev control everything. is as if they were a gang. so it's much better to use bitcoin than to use an altcoin.


You're right Slow death and this was the same thing the Chinese trying to do when they supported NEO and EOS while they posted FUD about bitcoin. People seems not to get it that bitcoin is not just an ordinary crypto currency.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
Pursuer
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1638
Merit: 1163


Where is my ring of blades...


View Profile
July 07, 2018, 05:46:26 AM
 #59

it is not "no one" it is just you. and the reason is simply because you listened to the FUD instead of listening to your own logic and using your own brain. when some idiot told you to "buy" you jump to buy bitcoin and when another idiot told you to sell because bitcoin is dead you panicked and jumped again to sell bitcoin and in this process that you repeated multiple times you lost a lot of money each time.

then you made the mistake of listening to another kind of idiots on the internet who were telling you to buy shitcoins. after a while you found yourself with bags filled with a lot of altcoins each of which losing value up to 90% and you found yourself in a lot of loss.

that is why you are so negative right now. so my suggestion is to start looking back and see what you did wrong. stop listening to idiots on the internet and start using your own head and stop bag holding altcoins.

Only Bitcoin
bitfocus
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 532
Merit: 15


View Profile
July 07, 2018, 10:59:11 AM
 #60


The main point you forget about bitcoin is that it is not controlled by any one and it is accepted by 99% of the crypto world. Majority of coins are valued through btc. The Altcoin which you are telling is controlled by their developer and if the developer abandon their project then automatically the coin value can go to zero also. But in btc case value going to zero is nill to possible as it is accepted by everyone and it is not controlled by anyone.

Strongly agreed!
Pages: « 1 2 [3] 4 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!