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February 12, 2014, 12:53:45 PM
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3. No transactions are cancelled, withdrawn, blocked, or hindered in any way (other than their tx id getting changed which is completely irrelevant).

This is incorrect.
The standard wallet software considers change from a transaction to be immediately available, and usable as an input to a second transaction.
If the first transaction is replaced by a rewritten one, the second transaction becomes invalid, and will never confirm.

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Always dangerous to write something like that Smiley

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February 12, 2014, 01:04:34 PM
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This is incorrect.
The standard wallet software considers change from a transaction to be immediately available, and usable as an input to a second transaction.
If the first transaction is replaced by a rewritten one, the second transaction becomes invalid, and will never confirm.[/q]
What's that got to do with the malleability issue? I mean, regardless of the malleability, I could just as well manipulate the client and build a customized version which considers spent input (from a transaction that is not confirmed yet) as still available, allowing me to do a 2nd transaction with it. Essentially this approach is just another attempt to double spend, which won't work.

In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
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February 12, 2014, 01:07:26 PM
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Bitcoin just declines last three month.

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February 12, 2014, 01:09:28 PM
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What a joke... Im a buyer of BTC at $2 LOL

I do not want to pay nor 1 cent for BTC.

sure you do.

Go to sleep and do it in your dream.
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February 12, 2014, 01:10:05 PM
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Bitcoin just declines last three month.

yes yes, we know.

You  are the alpha and omega of BTC network
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February 12, 2014, 01:11:45 PM
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Bitcoin just declines last three month.

yes yes, we know.

You  are the alpha and omega of BTC network


and ours savings  disappears.

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February 12, 2014, 01:14:18 PM
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Bitcoin just declines last three month.

yes yes, we know.

You  are the alpha and omega of BTC network


and ours savings  disappears.

Maybe yours Smiley

because you spend it on drugs...

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February 12, 2014, 01:18:02 PM
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My savings don't disappear. Everything I have is 100% profit and I have spend no money at all on Bitcoin. So yeah.

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February 12, 2014, 01:19:54 PM
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My savings don't disappear. Everything I have is 100% profit and I have spend no money at all on Bitcoin. So yeah.

Smiley just relax and ignore Igor
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February 12, 2014, 02:46:55 PM
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My savings don't disappear. Everything I have is 100% profit and I have spend no money at all on Bitcoin. So yeah.
If I haven't invested any cash into it, there is absolute no way for me to have a negative balance, so to speak.
We are on the same level here, yet again.  Smiley

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February 12, 2014, 02:53:56 PM
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My savings don't disappear. Everything I have is 100% profit and I have spend no money at all on Bitcoin. So yeah.
If I haven't invested any cash into it, there is absolute no way for me to have a negative balance, so to speak.
We are on the same level here, yet again.  Smiley
It seems that way indeed. Smiley

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February 12, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
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My savings don't disappear. Everything I have is 100% profit and I have spend no money at all on Bitcoin. So yeah.
If I haven't invested any cash into it, there is absolute no way for me to have a negative balance, so to speak.
We are on the same level here, yet again.  Smiley
It seems that way indeed. Smiley

Indeed it is Smiley

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February 12, 2014, 02:58:19 PM
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and ours savings  disappears.
Maybe you should cash out now then and quit complaining about how your speculative investment didn't work out.
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February 12, 2014, 03:09:47 PM
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Multiple Exchanges Affected - Possible Global Shutdown

Post should be moved to 'FUD'-forum, and user should be given a hiatus of at least a week for posting such nonsense.
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February 12, 2014, 03:10:14 PM
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Multiple Exchanges Affected - Possible Global Shutdown

Post should be moved to 'FUD'-forum, and user should be given a hiatus of at least a week for posting such nonsense.
That sounds like a great idea Grin

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February 12, 2014, 04:53:13 PM
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This is incorrect.
The standard wallet software considers change from a transaction to be immediately available, and usable as an input to a second transaction.
If the first transaction is replaced by a rewritten one, the second transaction becomes invalid, and will never confirm.
What's that got to do with the malleability issue? I mean, regardless of the malleability, I could just as well manipulate the client and build a customized version which considers spent input (from a transaction that is not confirmed yet) as still available, allowing me to do a 2nd transaction with it. Essentially this approach is just another attempt to double spend, which won't work.

The malleability issues allows other people to rewrite your first transaction without you knowing.
That makes your second transaction fail.
Even though you have done nothing but use the standard wallet in a perfectly normal way.

Which is what you said wasn't true:
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3. No transactions are cancelled, withdrawn, blocked, or hindered in any way (other than their tx id getting changed which is completely irrelevant).

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February 12, 2014, 05:25:53 PM
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February 12, 2014, 07:13:07 PM
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Press F1
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February 12, 2014, 07:14:23 PM
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Press F1

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Press F1
I see what you did there.

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