ETFs

[ridertiger]

I understand that ETFs will bring a positive movement to bitcoin. Anyone knows when more ETFs will come into the game?

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[bitmover]

I understand that ETFs will bring a positive movement to bitcoin. Anyone knows when more ETFs will come into the game?

The answer to that question is worth billions of dollars.
 Nobody know, and if someone knew he would not tell you here for free

[pickledmuffin]

I understand that ETFs will bring a positive movement to bitcoin. Anyone knows when more ETFs will come into the game?

I would love ETFs to come to the cryptoworld. I use them regulary for the share market, and they are a great way to diversify at a low cost without buying all the shares individually. I guess its only a matter of time until a product becomes available.

[Semleho]

Of course ETFs bring very positive moves, because if ETFs are well used .. well, it will bring benefits to users and investors ,,.

From my point of view, your question is a little less creative ...: D

WHAT ALL INVESTOR MUST KNOW ABOUT ETFs?

[win365]

I understand that ETFs will bring a positive movement to bitcoin. Anyone knows when more ETFs will come into the game?

The answer to that question is worth billions of dollars.
 Nobody know, and if someone knew he would not tell you here for free

I love this type of questions because if I would know the answer I would be the richest man in the universe probably, like when the bear market will end. Will bitcoin be successful in 2018, etc.

[Nisharawal]

I understand that ETFs will bring a positive movement to bitcoin. Anyone knows when more ETFs will come into the game?

As everyone knows that ETF which are known as Exchange Traded Funds are rarely seen traded in the crypto market because of the decentralization. But recently there has been launched an ETF on the start of the year 2018 and I am sure that they are doing every possible thing to bring the positive movement to bitcoin. I think more ETF's can be seen introduced soon by the 2018 year end and it will be helpful if it starts during a strong bullish rally.

[Theb]

How does ETFs actually help the price movement of Bitcoin? Because I don't see any direct relation with it and Bitcoin as they are totally from different market industries. I don't even know if ETF fund managers are allowed to put BTC to one of their investment portfolios due to volatility and lack of fundamental attributes. But if you are talking about the influence of its price movement, I don't think it is the only one helping if other markets as well is going up then we can suspect that the cryptocurrency market is headed to the same direction as others.

[Hydrogen]

A european investment firm is offering crypto ETF's to investors:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4609031.0

I'm doubtful the SEC will approve similar investment opportunities inside the USA.

The rest of the world will have easy access to crypto ETF's while americans will not. 

Its difficult to pinpoint a motive behind this without delving into a world of dark and mysterious conspiracy theories. The only thing that can be said is those living in countries other than the USA will have an easier time investing in crypto ETFs and profiting from them.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

From my point of view, your question is a little less creative ...: D

And your answer is a typical vapid shitpost.

I haven't used ETFs in the stock market, as I prefer the Warren Buffett approach of buying stocks outright.  This has quite a few advantages, one of which is voting rights at the shareholder meetings.  And yeah, there are advantages to owning derivative instruments, but I'll own the real thing when I can.  In the case of bitcoin, I don't really see the advantage of an ETF over just owning bitcoin.  It's not like you need to own the ETF because you can't just buy btc, like you might if you wanted to buy a share of Berkshire Hathaway (might be too expensive for the average person, even though there's a class B share) or shares in a company that isn't public.

What I thought when the btc ETFs came out is that they were going to influence the price a lot, either with less volatility or more of it, though bitcoin would be hard-pressed to be more volatile.  I also thought these would appeal to investors with extremely deep pockets who couldn't buy or sell actual bitcoin without moving the market too much.  I don't know if that's happened or not, since I don't really follow what's going on with the ETFs.  I haven't even read much about them here--everytime they're mentioned, the threads turn into shitpost dumps full of garbage like the one I quoted above.

A european investment firm is offering crypto ETF's to investors:

...and here comes Hydrogen offering one of the most useful answers in this thread.  Bravo, my man.

[ridertiger]

A european investment firm is offering crypto ETF's to investors:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4609031.0

I'm doubtful the SEC will approve similar investment opportunities inside the USA.

The rest of the world will have easy access to crypto ETF's while americans will not. 

Its difficult to pinpoint a motive behind this without delving into a world of dark and mysterious conspiracy theories. The only thing that can be said is those living in countries other than the USA will have an easier time investing in crypto ETFs and profiting from them.

Thank you very much, great answer! As opposed to: "only God knows so why ask?" or "be more creative in your question"
Thank you pharmacist as well.

[RockBar0]

How does ETFs actually help the price movement of Bitcoin? Because I don't see any direct relation with it and Bitcoin as they are totally from different market industries. I don't even know if ETF fund managers are allowed to put BTC to one of their investment portfolios due to volatility and lack of fundamental attributes. But if you are talking about the influence of its price movement, I don't think it is the only one helping if other markets as well is going up then we can suspect that the cryptocurrency market is headed to the same direction as others.

I do not know the details of their intentions. But the more opportunities there are, the more options there are to succeed in the financial sector. The main purpose of the business owners is to offer community values and services to the community. This will open a new era for the social community as well as the financial community.

[ridertiger]

I think it is August 10 or August 16 when  we will know for the CBOE. Since it is August 7 today, we have less than a week to go!

[Karisma Black]

A european investment firm is offering crypto ETF's to investors:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4609031.0

I'm doubtful the SEC will approve similar investment opportunities inside the USA.

The rest of the world will have easy access to crypto ETF's while americans will not. 

Its difficult to pinpoint a motive behind this without delving into a world of dark and mysterious conspiracy theories. The only thing that can be said is those living in countries other than the USA will have an easier time investing in crypto ETFs and profiting from them.

Thank you very much, great answer! As opposed to: "only God knows so why ask?" or "be more creative in your question"
Thank you pharmacist as well.

ETNs not ETFs... not completely the same.

[v_Harley]

Etf should not be easy to pass, Etf is more traditional fund, so the price fluctuations of BTC is very difficult to pass Etf.

[ridertiger]

I think it is more important to provide adoption compared to the ETFs. If adoption happens, everything will follow.

[BagzMM]

Let us just hope that ETF would give positive outcome to cryto world.

"ETFs allow investors to diversify their investments without actually owning the assets tracked by an ETF".

Read more: Bitcoin ETFs Explained | Investopedia https://www.investopedia.com/investing/bitcoin-etfs-explained/#ixzz5UcgvT700

[beerlover]

Approval of ETFs will take some more time but not too long.

I think it won't be accepted in the next one month for example because we still have a lot of ways to go however I do not believe it will be later than 2020 neither. Hence, anything between 2019 and 2020 would be a wise assumption, it will during the year 2019 but when it will be I have no idea, depends on what the SEC looking for in an ETF before they accept it.

If it is the demand than we can be assured that there is a huge demand for a bitcoin ETF and we will eventually get it however if it is "would having a bitcoin ETF affect anything" then we might have a trouble because even though all the speculators here talk about how having an ETF would change everything it probably change anything for neither us the bitcoin people nor for the ETF investors because there won't be a much change, ETF won't affect bitcoin directly so it won't change it at all.

[Fuhre]

Maybe some people hope the ETF is something extraordinary that can make positive news in the world so that it invites a lot of adoption for all investors, whatever happens I hope the best for Bitcoin is enough for me to make bad news about Bitcoin to advance in the future , over time with greater public interest in Bitcoin, this is an advantage to take into account the future of Bitcoin which is very good.

[Sifon]

Interesting how there's so much dependence on ETF for the market to experience a bull run, ETF as we all know will pave way for centralization and regulations from the government agencies like the SEC. The bull run of 2017 did not stem from a SEC approval you know..

[cryptocrusher]

Approval of ETFs will take some more time but not too long.

I think it won't be accepted in the next one month for example because we still have a lot of ways to go however I do not believe it will be later than 2020 neither. Hence, anything between 2019 and 2020 would be a wise assumption, it will during the year 2019 but when it will be I have no idea, depends on what the SEC looking for in an ETF before they accept it.

If it is the demand than we can be assured that there is a huge demand for a bitcoin ETF and we will eventually get it however if it is "would having a bitcoin ETF affect anything" then we might have a trouble because even though all the speculators here talk about how having an ETF would change everything it probably change anything for neither us the bitcoin people nor for the ETF investors because there won't be a much change, ETF won't affect bitcoin directly so it won't change it at all.

Something not having a direct influence on something does not mean that it won't have any influence. ETFs could have multiple different effects on bitcoin's price, as for which one will be the more prominent or how prominent it will be, that's impossible to say at this moment. One thing that I do believe is that given how so many are putting hope behind ETFs reversing bitcoin's trend I am concerned and skeptical of that belief. People can trade ETFs in both directions just as they can short the price of bitcoin itself. Regardless, I suspect the next bull run will be in flow before bitcoin gets an ETF. There will be little clamoring for it in the current market because the price is so stable, when there's more volatility again people will look at ways to profit from that and for a lot an ETF will be the answer. Fortunately many are already presenting ideas to the SEC now and negotiations are in full flow, maybe by the time an ETF is actually needed and demanded for one will have been approved.