Where's all the optimists?

[pbody]

Amazing deal to be had right now. I think it will hit 300. I have my order in. These are good times!

[stompix]

I'm still optimistic about bitcoin's future.  I have seen drops before, no big deal. I only look at fundamentals. Is bitcoin still the cheapest, fastest, and most private way to buy on the internet?  

Buy? You actually use BTC to buy things? What are you, one of those fanatical nutjob koolade-drinking "believers"?

Don't you realize that Bitcoin was created way back in November for the sole purpose of speculative trading?

Of course I don't buy things. I'm just in it for the Ponzi.   

No way!!! You too? =))))))

[DieJohnny]

I created an optimistic post the other day, telling people to buy, and for some reason it was deleted.

I've never seen a post in someone else's thread get deleted.

Perhaps you meant to say you created a new thread.

Off-topic or spammy threads (bull or bear) are often deleted.

Thread originators can delete posts, one of mine was deleted by repitilia

[BitChick]

If we get to $10,000 this year it will be the absolute slowest year ever for BTC.

You forget 2012.

I wasn't here then. 

Not sure what the numbers for 2012 were exactly but I guess I was basing it on the fact that we have had crazy growth on average for the past several years.  It would not be shocking to see $10,000.  Just saying.

[fallinglantern]

Been here the entire time. I just get ridiculed by the trolls for saying I have strong hands.

[roslinpl]

I noticed that in times of crash, there are no optimists around preaching "oh no! bitcoin will never go below 600-700! it will be $5000 next month!". They must have bolted off with their cash-out with their tail between their legs.

I am optimist and I always smile while other panic @ forum

[adamsgtBit]

I once was an optimist, but those times are gone.
I don´t see any future for Bitcoin anymore..

[FierceRadish]

I once was an optimist, but those times are gone.
I don´t see any future for Bitcoin anymore..

Oh, this is concerning, as it appears to be from the same Adam who started the huge wall thr....hang on a second!!!!!!

[stompix]

I once was an optimist, but those times are gone.
I don´t see any future for Bitcoin anymore..

Oh, this is concerning, as it appears to be from the same Adam who started the huge wall thr....hang on a second!!!!!!

It appears we have a bear who is feeling that the bear market is done for this season and it's trying desperately to....do something...

[proudhon]

Count me among the optimists.  Here's something I've been considering lately.  I learned my big lesson in not trusting 3rd parties with any significant amounts of bitcoin in 2012 with the bitcoinica fuck up.  Many of us learned that lesson through that experience and others back then.  But, there just weren't that many of us.

This go around there are a lot more people with a lot more money invested in bitcoin.  And this most recent incident was enormous in scale, affecting multiple 3rd parties.  Basically, everyone just got schooled in why you don't keep lots of bitcoin with 3rd parties, and I suspect over the coming months we're going to see the bitcoin supply on exchanges drop as people withdraw their bitcoins and learn to hold them themselves.

The whole infrastructure is still maturing and VC interest is clear.  However, VCs won't tolerate the risk of investing in startups with inexperienced management teams, and, therefore, I think we're in the midst of seeing it change hands from business owners with little real business experience to more experienced managers.  My thinking is that the infrastructure is moving forward and becoming more mature and robust and more usable and interesting for end users and business integration, and I think supplies on the open markets will decrease.  Combine those two things and I think you have the ingredients for another strong bull run later this year.

Just some thoughts.

[Tzupy]

Help, somebody kidnapped the real Proudhon and is posting in his name! 

I will be optimistic once the market will hit the bottom of wave C, and it's still months away.
My primary concern is if the attacks on the network will continue and if one of them will be really damaging.
Maybe those perpetrating the attacks just want very cheap coins, but - worst case scenario - they might
want bitcoin dead. So far, the core devs and exchanges' staff don't seem to win this battle.

[windjc]

Count me among the optimists.  Here's something I've been considering lately.  I learned my big lesson in not trusting 3rd parties with any significant amounts of bitcoin in 2012 with the bitcoinica fuck up.  Many of us learned that lesson through that experience and others back then.  But, there just weren't that many of us.

This go around there are a lot more people with a lot more money invested in bitcoin.  And this most recent incident was enormous in scale, affecting multiple 3rd parties.  Basically, everyone just got schooled in why you don't keep lots of bitcoin with 3rd parties, and I suspect over the coming months we're going to see the bitcoin supply on exchanges drop as people withdraw their bitcoins and learn to hold them themselves.

The whole infrastructure is still maturing and VC interest is clear.  However, VCs won't tolerate the risk of investing in startups with inexperienced management teams, and, therefore, I think we're in the midst of seeing it change hands from business owners with little real business experience to more experienced managers.  My thinking is that the infrastructure is moving forward and becoming more mature and robust and more usable and interesting for end users and business integration, and I think supplies on the open markets will decrease.  Combine those two things and I think you have the ingredients for another strong bull run later this year.

Just some thoughts.

Yes, the is what a transition of influence can look like. People losing faith in exchanges coupled with impending bit licenses for exchanges already vc financed and ready to start.

At this point it's all really about when those licenses come available. 3-6 months after that there will be a minor shift in exchanges.

[Kupsi]

I'm an optimist. $5k+ in six months.

[magicmexican]

I am just sad because i am out of fiat, those coins are so juicy

[Torque]

Count me among the optimists.  Here's something I've been considering lately.  I learned my big lesson in not trusting 3rd parties with any significant amounts of bitcoin in 2012 with the bitcoinica fuck up.  Many of us learned that lesson through that experience and others back then.  But, there just weren't that many of us.

This go around there are a lot more people with a lot more money invested in bitcoin.  And this most recent incident was enormous in scale, affecting multiple 3rd parties.  Basically, everyone just got schooled in why you don't keep lots of bitcoin with 3rd parties, and I suspect over the coming months we're going to see the bitcoin supply on exchanges drop as people withdraw their bitcoins and learn to hold them themselves.

The whole infrastructure is still maturing and VC interest is clear.  However, VCs won't tolerate the risk of investing in startups with inexperienced management teams, and, therefore, I think we're in the midst of seeing it change hands from business owners with little real business experience to more experienced managers.  My thinking is that the infrastructure is moving forward and becoming more mature and robust and more usable and interesting for end users and business integration, and I think supplies on the open markets will decrease.  Combine those two things and I think you have the ingredients for another strong bull run later this year.

Just some thoughts.

I agree.  One serious question Proudhon, let's say in 2-3 years there are 10x the number of exchanges that we have today.  Combine that with more folks holding their own bitcoins in personal wallets.  When the supply drops on all the exchanges out there, what effect will that have on the bitcoin economy overall?

Just a side note though: right now I actually trust Coinbase with my BTC, more so than I do myself on my home computer.  And I'm an IT guy.  But that may change in the future, dunno yet.

[chessnut]

Count me among the optimists.  Here's something I've been considering lately.  I learned my big lesson in not trusting 3rd parties with any significant amounts of bitcoin in 2012 with the bitcoinica fuck up.  Many of us learned that lesson through that experience and others back then.  But, there just weren't that many of us.

This go around there are a lot more people with a lot more money invested in bitcoin.  And this most recent incident was enormous in scale, affecting multiple 3rd parties.  Basically, everyone just got schooled in why you don't keep lots of bitcoin with 3rd parties, and I suspect over the coming months we're going to see the bitcoin supply on exchanges drop as people withdraw their bitcoins and learn to hold them themselves.

The whole infrastructure is still maturing and VC interest is clear.  However, VCs won't tolerate the risk of investing in startups with inexperienced management teams, and, therefore, I think we're in the midst of seeing it change hands from business owners with little real business experience to more experienced managers.  My thinking is that the infrastructure is moving forward and becoming more mature and robust and more usable and interesting for end users and business integration, and I think supplies on the open markets will decrease.  Combine those two things and I think you have the ingredients for another strong bull run later this year.

Just some thoughts.

Proudhon, I just made a fortune of my maximally leveraged shotr position, are you saying I should now assume a maximally leveraged logn poisition?
thanks for the advice.

[TERA]

as long as, in the long run we can laugh at the pessimists, everything is fine. those guys are trying to tell us that bitcoin with its 11166.67% performance in the last 24 months is a bad investment. that is a hard standing. 

How is this a good thing? It sounds overbought to me...

[JimboToronto]

Count me among the optimists.  Here's something I've been considering lately.  I learned my big lesson in not trusting 3rd parties with any significant amounts of bitcoin in 2012 with the bitcoinica fuck up.  Many of us learned that lesson through that experience and others back then.  But, there just weren't that many of us.

This go around there are a lot more people with a lot more money invested in bitcoin.  And this most recent incident was enormous in scale, affecting multiple 3rd parties.  Basically, everyone just got schooled in why you don't keep lots of bitcoin with 3rd parties, and I suspect over the coming months we're going to see the bitcoin supply on exchanges drop as people withdraw their bitcoins and learn to hold them themselves.

The whole infrastructure is still maturing and VC interest is clear.  However, VCs won't tolerate the risk of investing in startups with inexperienced management teams, and, therefore, I think we're in the midst of seeing it change hands from business owners with little real business experience to more experienced managers.  My thinking is that the infrastructure is moving forward and becoming more mature and robust and more usable and interesting for end users and business integration, and I think supplies on the open markets will decrease.  Combine those two things and I think you have the ingredients for another strong bull run later this year.

Just some thoughts.

Dude, what are you doing breaking kayfabe?

Think of all the little Proudhon-omaniacs who look up to you as a role model for bear trolling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe

Please keep your private beliefs to yourself and wear your trollbear costume convincingly.

[nakaone]

mid term (probably even long term) perspective is nothing but brilliant

[spiderbrain]

Proudhon has turned, it has been confirmed by sources!