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July 10, 2018, 10:14:21 AM
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Ok! I was actually trying to get reasons why people get addicted to gambling which we all know is more self inflicted. However, I came up with this theory for someone who may actually want to gamble and then would not want to get addicted based on trying to fix their mentality about it and I would like to seek your opinion on what you think about it, if it can actually end up working for any gambler or not.

The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.

Does this sound like a mentality that can help anyone understand what they are in for if they indeed want to gamble or something even those who are tending towards addiction can set their mind to so as not to get into that deep gambling hole that is hard to come out from?
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July 10, 2018, 10:54:31 AM
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This sounds good in theory, but I think it would be very hard for -some- people to disconnect from the notion that they gamble to win money.
The thing with addiction is that it kind of creeps up on you, without you noticing it at first.

So, you could very well be lying to yourself about 'only doing it for fun', while you're still getting addicted slowly.

A better tactic might be to severely limit the amount of time you spend on gambling, by sheer willpower alone.
When you see that you cannot do that, you can be pretty sure that you would be prone to becoming addicted in the future.

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July 10, 2018, 11:42:32 AM
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Addiction is unpredictable, because it repeats continuously to bet without realizing what it's fun for, so maybe with their victory can keep someone trying again and end up getting big losses, too ambitious to become a millionaire, nobody likes to lose, even those who are addicted gambling, but still they keep on gambling, gambling addicts talk, despite the tremendous defeat, there are feelings that bring them back to gambling, people gamble not just because of the prospect of winning, addiction behavior says that the gambler has a lot of motivation over the habit, they think the prospect of winning a lot of money is the strongest factor, but then followed by (because it's fun) and this, over time they will realize that such behavior can be melodic to the unfortunate, it will stop by itself.
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July 10, 2018, 12:16:40 PM
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It sound realistic, it need to be implemented by all of the gamblers so there are no addicted gambler, but in reality its really hard to implemented this theory, when talk about money then people can become greedy and losing control, if everyone can used this method then I believe we can change the perspective of gambling, we can change the bad stigma about gambling
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July 10, 2018, 01:32:25 PM
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The thing is that there are people who are addicted to going to the cinema. They tend to watch all movies. I call them Cinemaholic. So, if someone would want to put that theory onto someone who is addicted to watching movies at the cinema, then he would also get addicted to gambling. Added to that statement, I made a threat before and I said that if someone wants to quit gambling, he should quit himself. To clarify, he should do contradictory things that his self does not do.
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July 10, 2018, 01:41:27 PM
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The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.
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I was saying the same things(about comparing gambling to buying movie tickets) not so long ago, so of course I agree with your theory. This is absolutely what a healthy approach to gambling should look like. The first thing we have to expect from it is entertainment and as a bonus we can expect winning some money, as if they were raffling off some prizes associated with the numbers of movie tickets.

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July 10, 2018, 03:02:56 PM
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I know some of the major addicts give all of us a bad name.  Same goes with drug use, some people know how to use responsibility and not let it negatively affect their lives.  Most gamblers are just looking to have some extra fun and throw some money on a sports match to make it more exciting.
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July 10, 2018, 03:42:39 PM
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Yes, the theory is right for the long run.
If you make 1 million bets of 10 cents, and the casino takes 1% house edge, you will end up losing about 1000$ which is equal to 10K bets or 1% from the total bets you did.
But if we talk here about a the very short term then the chances of you to lose/win more is much higher because there are less hits in total.
Personally this theory comes to teach people that they can't base there salary on gambling or even see it as a work, because in the long run they are guaranteed to lose.
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July 10, 2018, 05:08:36 PM
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The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.
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I was saying the same things(about comparing gambling to buying movie tickets) not so long ago, so of course I agree with your theory. This is absolutely what a healthy approach to gambling should look like. The first thing we have to expect from it is entertainment and as a bonus we can expect winning some money, as if they were raffling off some prizes associated with the numbers of movie tickets.
On this way should how people do treat about gambling but most of us do failed out the true essence why gambling is being created and we do have it on other way around.This is why we do see the cycle of seeing broke gamblers because of such behavior. Greed is one of the reason why we are lost on the right path instead we do aim on enjoying gambling games but the fact in the end we do always or chase up on making money.
The worse we do deposit even more because you are already chasing your losses.

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July 10, 2018, 05:42:42 PM
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Clumsy answers thread. I do not understand what actually you are looking to get in the gambling sites. I do not understand what you trying to say here. If you want to invest the gambling ask the idea or check the worst part and everything.

You need to go with the gambling platform any new idea please do not invest your money on gambling and make money in other ways.
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July 10, 2018, 06:51:41 PM
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Very, very few people gamble simply for the fun of it. Do you think it's fun playing slot machines on your own at 2AM in a dingy casino? Do you think the people you see doing so are having fun? The answer is no, they're addicted, addicted to the chance of winning big, or reliving the memories of a time they actually did win big. People do not know whether this can happen to them, it depends on circumstance, but you certainly cannot say that it happens to everybody who doesn't play for fun.

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July 10, 2018, 07:05:21 PM
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Ok! I was actually trying to get reasons why people get addicted to gambling which we all know is more self inflicted. However, I came up with this theory for someone who may actually want to gamble and then would not want to get addicted based on trying to fix their mentality about it and I would like to seek your opinion on what you think about it, if it can actually end up working for any gambler or not.

The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.

Does this sound like a mentality that can help anyone understand what they are in for if they indeed want to gamble or something even those who are tending towards addiction can set their mind to so as not to get into that deep gambling hole that is hard to come out from?

this is not a theory , this is a fact and people should treat gambling only this way cause otherwise they will easily get addicted
but think about it this way , how many people you know that actually enjoy playing dice sites just for the fun part ?? cause I know none

thats why I only like poker and sportbetting , first of all if you are good you are almost guaranteed to make money and if you are not good then I'm sure you will have great time playing poker or watching the sport game that you have placed bets on
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July 10, 2018, 07:51:41 PM
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Nope. The expectation of winning is what makes gambling, gambling you cannot remove someone's mind that they are expected to win some few bets or so it doesn't make it an entertainment that way. Also I know anlot of people here have the mindset of considering their money lost already but I don't think the idea of winning some bets is removed from their minds. To keep it short the idea/expectation of winning is part of gambling and I don't think you can remove it from a gamblers' mindset.
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July 10, 2018, 07:57:31 PM
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This isn't the worst theory imo, the biggest misconception is gambling isn't and will never be a source of entertainment. I did understand your theory and it might make sense but the problem with most people is they spend a lot on this so called entertainment. A movie ticket might cost maximum of 30$ but for many gamblers they want to turn 30$ to 3000$ which is why they get addicted easily
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July 10, 2018, 08:28:41 PM
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Ok! I was actually trying to get reasons why people get addicted to gambling which we all know is more self inflicted. However, I came up with this theory for someone who may actually want to gamble and then would not want to get addicted based on trying to fix their mentality about it and I would like to seek your opinion on what you think about it, if it can actually end up working for any gambler or not.

The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.

Does this sound like a mentality that can help anyone understand what they are in for if they indeed want to gamble or something even those who are tending towards addiction can set their mind to so as not to get into that deep gambling hole that is hard to come out from?

Your theory is a literal mentality to some of the person. It's an obvious thing that may happened to any gamblers so I don't see any special to that.

But to make this short, we don't need to bother on what are the specific reasons why people get addicted to gambling as gamblers have different approaches and preferences why they became like that. There are other more reasons not just your stated "theory" itself that if we listed and discussed it here, it will take a long writing of post.

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July 10, 2018, 09:12:43 PM
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This isn't the worst theory imo, the biggest misconception is gambling isn't and will never be a source of entertainment. I did understand your theory and it might make sense but the problem with most people is they spend a lot on this so called entertainment. A movie ticket might cost maximum of 30$ but for many gamblers they want to turn 30$ to 3000$ which is why they get addicted easily

I can't completely disagree to what you said. However, a lot of people take gambling as a form of entertainment. Entertainment is subjective in nature. Hiring a hooker is also an entertainment to many. People spend money on that to get something in return that relaxes themselves. Similarly gambling relaxes a lot of people and they do it to get something in return. Probably you prefer to spend on movies to relax yourself. Some other people prefers gambling. Addiction here is completely self inflicted.

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July 10, 2018, 09:40:58 PM
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This isn't the worst theory imo, the biggest misconception is gambling isn't and will never be a source of entertainment. I did understand your theory and it might make sense but the problem with most people is they spend a lot on this so called entertainment. A movie ticket might cost maximum of 30$ but for many gamblers they want to turn 30$ to 3000$ which is why they get addicted easily

I can't completely disagree to what you said. However, a lot of people take gambling as a form of entertainment. Entertainment is subjective in nature. Hiring a hooker is also an entertainment to many. People spend money on that to get something in return that relaxes themselves. Similarly gambling relaxes a lot of people and they do it to get something in return. Probably you prefer to spend on movies to relax yourself. Some other people prefers gambling. Addiction here is completely self inflicted.

I think few people gamble for the enjoyment of gambling in and of itself, there is a different between enjoying gambling (regardless of outcome), and enjoying gambling because you stand the chance to win a lot of money. Most people fall into the latter category, which is unfortunately the category most likely to devolve into problem gambling.

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July 11, 2018, 05:11:50 AM
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Ok! I was actually trying to get reasons why people get addicted to gambling which we all know is more self inflicted. However, I came up with this theory for someone who may actually want to gamble and then would not want to get addicted based on trying to fix their mentality about it and I would like to seek your opinion on what you think about it, if it can actually end up working for any gambler or not.

The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.

Does this sound like a mentality that can help anyone understand what they are in for if they indeed want to gamble or something even those who are tending towards addiction can set their mind to so as not to get into that deep gambling hole that is hard to come out from?

Gambling seems like an easy way to fix big problems for many. I think that's its allure and how it seduces people. The high potential for profits in gambling can have a powerful effect on human consciousness. Think of it this way. A person who makes $20 an hour @ their job might take home around $80-$100 per 8 hour work day after taxes, fees and other liabilities. How hard is it to make $80-$100 per day gambling and how much time would it take?

What if someone could gamble and make $160 per day gambling while spending only 1-2 hours working everyday. Would that be better than working an 8 hour shift for roughly the same amount of money(after taxes)?

For many, gambling appears a path of least resistance and a way to maximize the amount of time a person has to pursue things they enjoy.

I think that's its attraction and it can be a difficult thing to address as there aren't many alternatives which have the potential to be as lucrative from a financial perspective. At least in terms of potential profit.

One way to deprogram gambling addicts could be to practice recognizing the difference between potential profit and real profit. There is a difference between the two which may not seem obvious at first, but a little bit of something could be infinitely more valuable than a lot of nothing. -Shrug- I don't know how to frame or deliver this type of message in a way which will connect with people.
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July 11, 2018, 05:43:19 AM
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I have this mindset sometimes when I gamble but it's only when I already lost. I enjoyed and paid for the fee(lost money).

This helps when you are frustrated with various losses that you've made not only for a single day but for a week or two.

I do not understand what you trying to say here. If you want to invest the gambling ask the idea or check the worst part and everything.
His theory is that when you gamble don't think of any return that you can make with it, instead think of it as having fun and the money you gamble as a fee.

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July 11, 2018, 06:31:06 AM
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That’s the mindset responsible gamblers have. They spend a certain amount of money for entertainment, the same way they spend it when they go out to dinner or to the cinema. The difference is, they may go back home with more money, and that is the thrill that entertainment has.

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