Sometimes I forget that truly evil people exist in this world (EXAMPLE)

[bmanzzs]

So I decided to help this guy out, because he had a question about secuity. I help a lot of people in IRC freenode #bitcoin, but I've never encountered someone like this before. I was furious.

Here's the entire chatlog: http://pastebin.com/VE9iWGpz

Here are the key parts:

T 1392384102 31<bmanzzs_>    evilmax, no need to worry
T 1392384113 31<bmanzzs_>30   most likely that dust transaction will not confirm
T 1392384115 18<Evilmax>   ah...why?
T 1392384127 18<Evilmax>   but why? it is strage
...
T 1392385208 31<bmanzzs_>30   i wouldn't worry
T 1392385221 18<Evilmax>   ok
T 1392385236 18<Evilmax>   my btc daemon anyway
T 1392385284 31<bmanzzs_>30   hmm
T 1392385289 31<bmanzzs_>30   "btc daemon"?
T 1392385409 31<bmanzzs_>30   not sure what you are asking
T 1392385455 18<Evilmax>   not important
T 1392385585 31<bmanzzs_>30   ok
T 1392385617 31<bmanzzs_>30   so I charge a rate of 1mBTC/ per minute for assistance
T 1392385623 31<bmanzzs_>30   jkjk
T 1392385736 18<Evilmax>   ah!
T 1392385764 18<Evilmax>   my friend
T 1392385773 18<Evilmax>   in my life i never bought a btc
T 1392385779 18<Evilmax>   only stole them
T 1392385793 31<bmanzzs_>30   what do you mean?
T 1392385797 18<Evilmax>   only sell them for money
T 1392385812 31<bmanzzs_>30   how did you "steal" them?
T 1392385819 18<Evilmax>   i mean that...it would be impossible, even for joke, that i could pay someone in btc
T 1392385832 18<Evilmax>   even if you are joking, of coursde
T 1392385832 18<Evilmax>   course*
T 1392385844 18<Evilmax>   i stolen them as scammer
T 1392385847 18<Evilmax>   as phishing
T 1392385854 18<Evilmax>   as "socila engineer"
T 1392385857 18<Evilmax>   social*
T 1392385865 31<bmanzzs_>30   Really now? interesting.
T 1392385867 18<Evilmax>   you didn't?
T 1392385884 31<bmanzzs_>30   you have some very poor morals, friend.
T 1392385884 18<Evilmax>   why you are here?
T 1392385887 18<Evilmax>   for get btc, no?
T 1392385891 31<bmanzzs_>30   yes
T 1392385897 31<bmanzzs_>30   by legitimate means
T 1392385899 18<Evilmax>   no morals man...only money
T 1392385903 31<bmanzzs_>30   mining, buying, trading
T 1392385905 31<bmanzzs_>30   that's very sad
T 1392385913 18<Evilmax>   no...you are wrong
T 1392385923 18<Evilmax>   you get btc...no mining, trading
T 1392385931 18<Evilmax>   you get a lot if you stole them
T 1392385934 18<Evilmax>   listen me!
T 1392385940 18<Evilmax>   you want the same that i want
T 1392385942 18<Evilmax>   btc!
T 1392385948 31<bmanzzs_>30   yes, it's true
T 1392385967 18<Evilmax>   you are surely able as "thief"
T 1392385968 18<Evilmax>   i see
T 1392385974 18<Evilmax>   you are not a newbie
T 1392385982 18<Evilmax>   so try
T 1392385998 31<bmanzzs_>30   sorry. yes, i could phish poor individuals
T 1392386003 31<bmanzzs_>30   and i could quite easily
T 1392386012 31<bmanzzs_>30   but the thing is, i have morals
T 1392386015 31<bmanzzs_>30   i'm a good person
T 1392386020 31<bmanzzs_>30   i treat others well, with respect
T 1392386025 18<Evilmax>   it's not a crime
T 1392386029 31<bmanzzs_>30   yes it is
T 1392386034 18<Evilmax>   you live in a world of thiefs
T 1392386038 31<bmanzzs_>30   crime against humanity
T 1392386044 18<Evilmax>   oh!
T 1392386052 18<Evilmax>   ok....Jesus
T 1392386054 18<Evilmax>   sorry!
T 1392386058 31<bmanzzs_>30   you are making the world a worse place by doing that
T 1392386061 18<Evilmax>   do not send me to the hell
T 1392386066 31<bmanzzs_>30   i suggest you start to look at yourself
T 1392386074 31<bmanzzs_>30   reflect why you are such a horrible person
T 1392386078 31<bmanzzs_>30   reflect on life
T 1392386085 31<bmanzzs_>30   you want to steal from people to make money?
T 1392386088 18<Evilmax>   anyway...i would like try mining a day
T 1392386093 18<Evilmax>   no...
T 1392386095 31<bmanzzs_>30   try legitimate ways
T 1392386099 18<Evilmax>   but it is easy
T 1392386107 18<Evilmax>   yes..i use also legitimate ways
T 1392386110 31<bmanzzs_>30   ugh.
T 1392386130 31<bmanzzs_>30   i'm truly sorry that you're that type of person
T 1392386151 18<Evilmax>   i am a good man
T 1392386159 18<Evilmax>   and stole btc is not a crime
T 1392386161 31<bmanzzs_>30   i'm sorry, but it doesn't sound like it
T 1392386165 31<bmanzzs_>30   you don't get it
T 1392386168 18<Evilmax>   good man in real life
T 1392386175 31<bmanzzs_>30   no, you aren't
T 139238199 31<bmanzzs_>30   just because stealing btc isn't in the law books, doesn't mean it's not poor judgement
T 1392386210 31<bmanzzs_>30   you have problems
T 1392386214 31<bmanzzs_>30   and i pity you
T 1392386220 31<bmanzzs_>30   and i'm sorry i even helped you
T 1392386247 31<bmanzzs_>30   i stole from people when i was 10 years old
T 1392386253 31<bmanzzs_>30   then i realized i didn't want to be that type of person
T 1392386264 31<bmanzzs_>30   i'm sorry you never matured
T 1392386326 31<bmanzzs_>30   honestly i hope you are joking about this entire thing, but i doubt you are
T 1392386350 31<bmanzzs_>30   your name is evilmax
T 1392386357 31<bmanzzs_>30   that reflects on your character
T 1392386433 18<Evilmax>   no
T 1392386448 18<Evilmax>   i thank you for help about suspect transaction
T 1392386471 18<Evilmax>   you have done the right thing: because you helped me to defende my users
T 1392386481 31<bmanzzs_>30   it's people like you that ruin bitcoin
T 1392386485 31<bmanzzs_>30   that turn people off to bitcoin
T 1392386487 18<Evilmax>   i was worry about their balance
T 1392386489 18<Evilmax>   not mine
T 1392386491 31<bmanzzs_>30   that prevent merchants from accepting bitcoin
T 1392386496 18<Evilmax>   no no
T 1392386498 31<bmanzzs_>30   yes
T 1392386507 18<Evilmax>   wait: i do not stole btc of my users
T 1392386510 31<bmanzzs_>30   you have a fucking twisted world
T 1392386518 31<bmanzzs_>30   but you steal from random strangers?
T 1392386520 31<bmanzzs_>30   how is that better
T 1392386523 18<Evilmax>   as i said: i also work on good ways
T 1392386532 18<Evilmax>   yes
T 1392386535 31<bmanzzs_>30   why don't you ALWAYS work in good ways?
T 1392386538 18<Evilmax>   i steal only fomr strangers
T 1392386540 31<bmanzzs_>30   instead of fucking stealing
T 1392386543 31<bmanzzs_>30   wow
T 1392386546 31<bmanzzs_>30   you are truly evil
T 1392386549 18<Evilmax>   because ...it is a law of commerce
T 1392386553 31<bmanzzs_>30   and i'm sorry you were raised
T 1392386555 31<bmanzzs_>30   as such
T 1392386559 18<Evilmax>   do wrong but also do right
T 1392386569 31<bmanzzs_>30   wtf kind of morality is that?
T 1392386573 18<Evilmax>   do crime but also be honest
T 1392386577 18<Evilmax>   man!
T 1392386581 31<bmanzzs_>30   you are a sick and twisted individual
T 1392386584 18<Evilmax>   it's business law
T 1392386590 18<Evilmax>   no no...
T 1392386592 31<bmanzzs_>30   not for a good person
T 1392386600 18<Evilmax>   let me do an example, ok?
T 1392386604 31<bmanzzs_>30   fine
T 1392386605 18<Evilmax>   you will understand easly
T 1392386614 31<bmanzzs_>30   you just admitted to phishing
T 1392386618 31<bmanzzs_>30   a very scumbag thing to do
T 1392386627 18<Evilmax>   a drug trafficant...he become rich with illegal stuffs....but then...he buy a motel
T 1392386638 18<Evilmax>   becomes*
T 1392386642 18<Evilmax>   sorry my english
T 1392386659 18<Evilmax>   in your country...this do not happen?
T 1392386675 18<Evilmax>   how many criminals....open legal activities?
T 1392386683 18<Evilmax>   so...you are wrong man
T 1392386688 18<Evilmax>   listen me:)
T 1392386700 31<bmanzzs_>30   how would you know that you are stealing from these criminals?
T 1392386708 31<bmanzzs_>30   you have probably stolen coins from a good person
T 1392386715 31<bmanzzs_>30   and they are still sad because of that
T 1392386725 18<Evilmax>   yes..i stole...i am not worry about from who
T 1392386731 18<Evilmax>   but usually are criminals
T 1392386735 31<bmanzzs_>30   that's where your argument fails
T 1392386742 18<Evilmax>   such as drugs or weapons trafficant that use btc
T 1392386754 18<Evilmax>   i am the divine justice
T 1392386760 18<Evilmax>   contrappasso of Dante
T 1392386769 31<bmanzzs_>30   i would never steal from 1 good person, even if it meant stealing from 1000 criminals at the same time
T 1392386783 31<bmanzzs_>30   it's not the right thing to do
T 1392386788 18<Evilmax>   sorry for you ^_-
T 1392386792 31<bmanzzs_>30   ugh
T 1392386796 31<bmanzzs_>30   i hope you change one day
T 1392386799 18<Evilmax>   so you are not able to live on Earth
T 1392386803 31<bmanzzs_>30   realize what a shit pile you are
T 1392386804 18<Evilmax>   little brother ;(
T 1392386825 31<bmanzzs_>30   you ruin this world, "brother"
T 1392386835 31<bmanzzs_>30   and if you were in front of me, i would spit in your face
T 1392386840 31<bmanzzs_>30   you disgust me
T 1392386851 31<bmanzzs_>30   you are the worst user i've ever encountered in my time of bitcoin trading
T 1392386865 31<bmanzzs_>30   i've made money through legitimate means
T 1392386871 31<bmanzzs_>30   and you fucking steal from good people
T 1392386907 31<bmanzzs_>30   and i'm not religious, but if there's a hell, you will surely rot in it
T 1392386992 18<Evilmax>   ok bman
T 1392387007 18<Evilmax>   for me it's a little hard read you...because my english
T 1392387041 18<Evilmax>   i have a lot of users that ask for my help
T 1392387049 18<Evilmax>   thanks for the chat:)
T 1392387055 31<bmanzzs_>30   fuck you
T 1392387056 18<Evilmax>   anyway i will online
T 1392387062 31<bmanzzs_>30   you are making me mad
T 1392387064 18<Evilmax>   eh! "fuck you"
T 1392387074 18<Evilmax>   see...
T 1392387084 18<Evilmax>   you are not so good
T 1392387093 31<bmanzzs_>30   i don't curse often, but when i do
T 1392387093 18<Evilmax>   with this "fuck you"
T 1392387095 31<bmanzzs_>30   it's for a good reason
T 1392387099 18<Evilmax>   also you are a little criminal
T 1392387102 31<bmanzzs_>30   you deserve a thousand more fuck yous
T 1392387128 31<bmanzzs_>30   you're a waste of space
T 1392387140 18<Evilmax>   i do this
T 1392387143 18<Evilmax>   for a girl
T 1392387146 18<Evilmax>   that i love
T 1392387156 31<bmanzzs_>30   unacceptable
T 1392387158 18<Evilmax>   so...at the end...i do this only for LOVE
T 1392387158 31<bmanzzs_>30   does not matter
T 1392387165 31<bmanzzs_>30   you do evil things for love
T 1392387171 18<Evilmax>   love is good
T 1392387173 31<bmanzzs_>30   i hope the girl breaks your fucking heart
T 1392387174 18<Evilmax>   and...
T 1392387177 18<Evilmax>   love is God
T 1392387188 18<Evilmax>   no no...the girl loves me
T 1392387191 31<bmanzzs_>30   you're one fucked up individual
T 1392387193 18<Evilmax>   and my gifts
T 1392387194 18<Evilmax>   ^_-
T 1392387196 31<bmanzzs_>30   no
T 1392387198 31<bmanzzs_>30   she doesn't love you
T 1392387201 31<bmanzzs_>30   she loves your money
T 1392387212 18<Evilmax>   until i will give her money
T 1392387213 31<bmanzzs_>30   who could ever love someone like you...?"
T 1392387217 18<Evilmax>   she loves me
T 1392387228 31<bmanzzs_>30   i'm done
T 1392387233 31<bmanzzs_>30   you're raising my blood pressure
T 1392387244 31<bmanzzs_>30   everything you say is backasswards


Simply amazing. I was appauled. Any thoughts?

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[Rannasha]

Welcome to humanity

[davout]

Any thoughts?

Have a xanax.

[davidpbrown]

T 1392387140 18<Evilmax>   i do this
T 1392387143 18<Evilmax>   for a girl
T 1392387146 18<Evilmax>   that i love

Women are the root of all evil?.. Happy valentine's day troll?

[yatsey87]

Can we get a tl;dr version?

[bmanzzs]

Any thoughts?

Have a xanax.

haha... good idea. too bad i'm out of that, or weed.

Can we get a tl;dr version?

Sure, i'll try to create one

[KWH]

All you have to do is spend a few minutes reading the Scam section. No surprises here.

[justusranvier]

Can we get a tl;dr version?

1. Trolls exist on IRC.
2. Never trust your BTC to a business davout is involved with.

[yatsey87]

Can we get a tl;dr version?

TL;DR version:

first guy: i steal BTC with scams
second guy: you're a piece of shit:
first guy: no. i'm a good guy
second guy: no. you're a piece of shit
first guy: no. i'm honest

keep repeating.

haha thanks. So people are surprised people can rip other people off and not feel bad about it?

[BitcoinBobbeh]

All I have to say is that there are much worse things on the internet.

Unplug your modem and wait for your other testicle to drop if you want to keep using the internet.

Or are you just one of those sensitive dudes?

[zeetubes]

haha thanks. So people are surprised people can rip other people off and not feel bad about it?

wasn't that why bitcoin was invented?

[bmanzzs]

All I have to say is that there are much worse things on the internet.

Unplug your modem and wait for your other testicle to drop if you want to keep using the internet.

Or are you just one of those sensitive dudes?

... I basically live on the internet, and I've encountered plenty of trolls. This guy is on a new level of scumbaggery though. I dunno. I think the reason why I got so upset was because he was trying to convince me that he was a good person. And that I actually helped the guy by answering his questions. He had no direction of right or wrong.

[justusranvier]

I think the reason why I got so upset was because he was trying to convince me that he was a good person. And that I actually helped the guy by answering his questions. He had no direction of right or wrong.

Almost.

He obviously knows the value of good because he's trying to convince you that he's good. He must know what good is, because otherwise he could even attempt to convince you. That means he also knows that he is not good.

You're upset because he is a bad person who knows the different between good and evil, and is using his knowledge to deceive you instead of changing his behavior.

[davout]

Never trust your BTC to a business davout is involved with.

Lol, who are you? and what's with the butthurt?

[BitcoinBobbeh]

... I basically live on the internet, and I've encountered plenty of trolls. This guy is on a new level of scumbaggery though.

You're making me cringe.

Me and you are like the difference between 4chan and 9gag.

Like I said, wait for the other one to drop.

[bmanzzs]

... I basically live on the internet, and I've encountered plenty of trolls. This guy is on a new level of scumbaggery though.

You're making me cringe.

Me and you are like the difference between 4chan and 9gag.

Like I said, wait for the other one to drop.

Sounds like you've been scammed before and are possibly still upset about it? Sorry, brah. I hope you get over whatever is making you troll right now.

[yatsey87]

haha thanks. So people are surprised people can rip other people off and not feel bad about it?

wasn't that why bitcoin was invented?

Nope. I think it was invented to be pretty much the opposite.

[asdf123]

Simply amazing. I was appauled. Any thoughts?

That dialogue reminds me of some things C S Lewis wrote about 'right and wrong as a clue to the meaning of the universe':


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unm57eAspy4&feature=youtu.be&t=16m28s

[meelvanchris]

Can we get a tl;dr version?

TL;DR version:

first guy: i steal BTC with scams
second guy: you're a piece of shit:
first guy: no. i'm a good guy
second guy: no. you're a piece of shit
first guy: no. i'm honest

keep repeating.

Lol +1 wax on, wax off

[the_poet]

Shameful, but at least he is sincere about what he does.

[BitcoinBobbeh]

... I basically live on the internet, and I've encountered plenty of trolls. This guy is on a new level of scumbaggery though.

You're making me cringe.

Me and you are like the difference between 4chan and 9gag.

Like I said, wait for the other one to drop.

Sounds like you've been scammed before and are possibly still upset about it? Sorry, brah. I hope you get over whatever is making you troll right now.

I haven't, actually. I'm probably fortunate to not have been scammed, but I also try not to be a fuckwit and give out money without collateral.

I don't come here to troll anyone, I was just being honest. Are you really going to start a thread about being butthurt for other people? Scammers exist. Some are up-front about it. Whatcha gonna do?

IMHO a lot of people who get scammed/hacked are somewhat at-fault. Not that I necessarily condone it. I'm a straight shooter myself but hey, it's reality. Let's not spread FUD by crying 'woe is me' every time you are forced to interact with a scammer.

[freebit13]

Dude, that guy was pulling your leg... half of that is such clear bullshit, it's amazing... I only steal bitcoin from criminals like drug dealer or weapons traficant.... lol... that dude stole a lot of your time and seems like he's about 11.

[km4700ruda]

This guy is on a new level of scumbaggery though. I dunno. I think the reason why I got so upset was because he was trying to convince me that he was a good person.

[lorix]

It's sad to see scum like this around, but have there ever been instances of honorable "Robin Hood" style BTC thieves before?

Actually, it raises an interesting scenario - say an "Anonymous" hacker dedicated to the cause somehow managed to obtain the private key to the FBI held DPR stash and then went and donated the lot to charities like Wikileaks, EFF or even Sean's outpost. Let's say they even tumbled the coins for good measure to erase the trail, what would (if evne possible) the legal response to this and could they really do anything about it anyhow?