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July 14, 2018, 12:35:33 PM Last edit: March 24, 2019, 11:27:41 PM by mikeywith |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=393142** after about 3 months stingers showed up , paid my money back. Ok so just to clarify things to everyone here. I would like to report that "stingers" paid back the money "150$" that i sent to him. he texted me on telegram as well as on this forum explaining to me that had his own reasons and asked for my forgiveness.
now regardless of his intentions or story of why he stopped replying. I do appreciate that he finally came and talked to me and of course paid my money back.
so from my side the problem has been solved and i do forgive him for what happened. i will also delete my negative feedback on his trust page.
but again this is a lesson learned , never deal with anybody without escrow.
thanks to everybody for supporting my case and thanks for keeping this forum as safe as possible.
Mikey.so this "stingers" guy who is supposedly a "Legendary" member who has been around for years scammed me for 150$ ! ! I am not blaming anyone but myself ! but really with the reviews he got and his rank the last thing i'd think that he would scam someone for 150$ ! i mean with this kinda profile you can be trusted much more easily than a newbie or a member account you can make a good amount of money just trading digital goods !. so this is his message on bitcointalk after he texted me on telegram " in response to my WTB topic " > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4462149.msg39987328#msg39987328 this is a proof that he is the same guy on telegram " same wallet address"
this is a proof that i sent 0.02402 BTC (150$ at the time of transaction) to the same wallet https://www.blockchain.com/en/btc/address/34TtT5Yxy6bSw1nywHEjQ6Emx4sqsC8nCdthis is the first lame excuse of why he didn't send the coupons
he was online on the forum after he my message was sent and NO REPLY
he then just blocked me on telegram !
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlBOEuk5.png&t=665&c=24qT_Jjf7oQ9TQ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- if needs be i can provide one of the mods/admins with my bitmain account login details so they can confirm that i have not received any coupons from this guy !! and after all 150$ is not a big deal ! but I am only hoping that some of the very trusted especially those with default trust would leave negative reviews on this so called " "Legendary" who is generally abusing the positive feedback he got as well as his rank so that others won't get scammed by him. Finally my last message to all scammers all the way from ""Legendary" to newbies " There is lotsa CLEAN money that can be made on the internet,it's probably less tiring than your scamming business if you would spend a little time on the things that matter instead of looking for people to scam"
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July 14, 2018, 03:09:53 PM |
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you are blind friend or what ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) you do not see the Warning -2 in red who want to say flee as you can ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 14, 2018, 03:44:38 PM |
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you are blind friend or what ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) you do not see the Warning -2 in red who want to say flee as you can ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yeah, this is the first thing you should watch out for. Never ever trust anyone with -2 trust (in extremely small cases you possibly can), however you should have protected yourself with an escrow. While it costs, it should give you protection to some degree.
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July 14, 2018, 08:01:21 PM |
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Red trust is a big no no buddy. Never deal with anybody who has red trust from DT member(s). You need to learn the hard way, just be thankful it wasn’t for a lot more money.
I’ve seen dozens of horror stories on here with people losing over 100 bitcoin’s.
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July 15, 2018, 01:07:35 AM |
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of course i checked the negative reviews ! . it was only from "Lauda" and i did read why did Lauda gave him that negative feed back. it didn't make sense. also after checking Lauda's reviews i found Ognasty ( a member that i highly trust) accusing Lauda for a lot of things so i assumed that her review is irrelavent. i also didn't think that someone with a legendary rank would scam someone for 150$ . anyway this is more of a warning for others rather than me complaining !
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July 15, 2018, 05:17:40 AM |
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of course i checked the negative reviews ! . it was only from "Lauda" and i did read why did Lauda gave him that negative feed back. it didn't make sense. also after checking Lauda's reviews i found Ognasty ( a member that i highly trust) accusing Lauda for a lot of things so i assumed that her review is irrelavent. i also didn't think that someone with a legendary rank would scam someone for 150$ . anyway this is more of a warning for others rather than me complaining !
There are some who scammed for alot less. Its always wise to use escrow in such a situation. You most likely wont see anything back from this user but as for future reference, use an escrow. There are many who are trusted here.
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July 15, 2018, 07:05:25 PM |
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You just got a lesson for a cost of $150..😂
Nothing Comes free my friend, every learning Costs something...
Once, I was also scammed nearly $3000... But that $3000 taught me a lot... Now I always try to be careful while perform transactions over Internet... One important advice I can give is -
"Always consult with Experts in Such issues & Think twice before making any payments "
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July 15, 2018, 07:47:07 PM |
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I think everyone on this forum has some form of a scam story to tell unfortunately.
That's the problem with negative rep, for scammers, once an account doesn't have a clean record, it's almost a throw away account. They're more likely to scam again once they have negative rep.
I'm sorry for your luck! I'd hope he comes back and figures it out. It's not like it was a new account, and he did have some positive rep on his account, so I see where you were coming from.
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July 17, 2018, 10:10:16 AM |
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Unfortunately, a legendary account means nothing when you don't have a reputation.
There are hundreds if not thousands of hero members and legendary accounts that are owned by scammers. Rank really means nothing if you don't a reputation, and in this case, he even got tagged before all of this happened.
Check the trust ratings of someone next time before you conduct business deals with them. Always use escrow, unless the amount is low ($150 is still a lot, and scammers will have their eyes set on you even if their ranks are high), or the person you're dealing with is extremely trusted.
Hopefully you learned your lesson. Don't assume anyone as legit before you do research here.
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July 19, 2018, 11:19:44 PM |
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of course i checked the negative reviews ! . it was only from "Lauda" and i did read why did Lauda gave him that negative feed back. it didn't make sense. also after checking Lauda's reviews i found Ognasty ( a member that i highly trust) accusing Lauda for a lot of things so i assumed that her review is irrelavent. i also didn't think that someone with a legendary rank would scam someone for 150$ . anyway this is more of a warning for others rather than me complaining !
There are some who scammed for alot less. Its always wise to use escrow in such a situation. You most likely wont see anything back from this user but as for future reference, use an escrow. There are many who are trusted here. well i am well aware of the escrow service provided by trusted members, the only draw back is the time it takes for those guys to come online and to arrange the escrow. there are some deals that have to done right on time. and whenever there is reward , there will be a risk. i do have some rules regarding sending money first, i do stick to them all the time , i was just naive to think that a "Legendary" ranked member is a huge plus. it turns on out to be meaningless. so i added this to my list of rules ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Thanks
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July 19, 2018, 11:40:20 PM |
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well i am well aware of the escrow service provided by trusted members, the only draw back is the time it takes for those guys to come online and to arrange the escrow. there are some deals that have to done right on time. and whenever there is reward , there will be a risk. Yes. But when you are dealing with someone with such a tarnished reputation and with an extremely high risk digital good (Bitmain coupons), I think that the risks that you reduce through using escrow is worth a lot more than the time you may spend waiting for one. You have to assume that most people who approach you on digital goods section are scammers, if they have a negative trust rating or they're lower ranked. There is no point taking that risk imho sending first. i was just naive to think that a "Legendary" ranked member is a huge plus. it turns on out to be meaningless. It's not meaningless. It just doesn't automatically mean someone is legit, if you know what I mean. Especially when you saw that he had negative ratings on his trust profile, his reputation is already worthless. Always do research, and don't be afraid to ask around before you do a deal or especially send first.
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July 19, 2018, 11:45:12 PM |
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So the warning "trade with caution" below the username really has a purpose afterall. Unfortunately you learned it the hard way. But thanks to your posts, we can always use your experience in dealing with caution even with high ranking members.
Edit: with this I begin to think, which one should worthless jr. members like me target, high merit or good reputation?
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July 20, 2018, 01:32:10 AM |
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i wouldn't trade with even satoshi himself if he had a negative karma.
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July 23, 2018, 06:30:52 PM |
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well i am well aware of the escrow service provided by trusted members, the only draw back is the time it takes for those guys to come online and to arrange the escrow. there are some deals that have to done right on time. and whenever there is reward , there will be a risk. Yes. But when you are dealing with someone with such a tarnished reputation and with an extremely high risk digital good (Bitmain coupons), I think that the risks that you reduce through using escrow is worth a lot more than the time you may spend waiting for one. You have to assume that most people who approach you on digital goods section are scammers, if they have a negative trust rating or they're lower ranked. There is no point taking that risk imho sending first. i was just naive to think that a "Legendary" ranked member is a huge plus. it turns on out to be meaningless. It's not meaningless. It just doesn't automatically mean someone is legit, if you know what I mean. Especially when you saw that he had negative ratings on his trust profile, his reputation is already worthless. Always do research, and don't be afraid to ask around before you do a deal or especially send first. well , i took my chances and i fucked up, lesson learned ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . i just posted this for others to learn the easy way. thanks for your comment ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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July 23, 2018, 07:30:22 PM |
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of course i checked the negative reviews ! . it was only from "Lauda" and i did read why did Lauda gave him that negative feed back. it didn't make sense. also after checking Lauda's reviews i found Ognasty ( a member that i highly trust) accusing Lauda for a lot of things so i assumed that her review is irrelavent. i also didn't think that someone with a legendary rank would scam someone for 150$ . anyway this is more of a warning for others rather than me complaining !
You read what you wanted to see, because you got greedy and thought that you were getting an advantage in a deal. You should never deal with anyone who has negative trust, legendary status is irrelevant.
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July 23, 2018, 07:39:31 PM |
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It's not meaningless.
Not entirely, but in my mind it doesn't mean a hell of a lot either. The reason I say that is because I know all too well that accounts are bought and sold here--Legendary accounts among them, and sometimes with green trust as well. Having said that, there are some folks here I'd trust to do deals with, with no escrow, but I'm aware of how risky it is. The main problem is that people don't always check a person's trust rating or ignore it when they do, or they give more weight to positive trust than they should. I've been guilty of that in the past, and I got scammed--and I've been fairly paranoid ever since.
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July 24, 2018, 08:30:19 PM |
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of course i checked the negative reviews ! . it was only from "Lauda" and i did read why did Lauda gave him that negative feed back. it didn't make sense. also after checking Lauda's reviews i found Ognasty ( a member that i highly trust) accusing Lauda for a lot of things so i assumed that her review is irrelavent. i also didn't think that someone with a legendary rank would scam someone for 150$ . anyway this is more of a warning for others rather than me complaining !
You read what you wanted to see, because you got greedy and thought that you were getting an advantage in a deal. You should never deal with anyone who has negative trust, legendary status is irrelevant. dude , i bought well over 3000 bitmain coupons on the forum " many members here can confirm" that's well over 250k USD "aka quarter a million " , i got scammed a few times for more money than this, on the other hand i met a lot of legit people. i wasn't greedy as you may think , i was foolish ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) to think that a legendary status means something when it clearly doesn't ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . because i had dealth some a legendary members with no escrow and things were smooth ! as for your point of " You should never deal with anyone who has negative trust" i have to disagree to this because many negative reviews are based on "personal bullshit and drama" that's why you can always reference your reviews to support your case, a lot of legit people here have their walls painted in red because of so many reasons , for an instance once somebody accuses someone else for being a scammer chances are the person accused will post the same shit on accuser trust page and then at least one of those reviews will be irrelevant if not both . i am not sure if you getting my point ! anyhow, thanks for the reply.
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July 27, 2018, 11:50:07 PM |
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The main problem is that people don't always check a person's trust rating or ignore it when they do, or they give more weight to positive trust than they should.
exactly ^^
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Interesting. I see he's also shilling for the website sportsbet.io which I'm starting to believe scammed me out of about 1.5 btc by disabling my account for no reason while I still had active bets. Be very wary of any product or website this guy is promoting.
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July 28, 2018, 01:39:39 AM |
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Interesting. I see he's also shilling for the website sportsbet.io which I'm starting to believe scammed me out of about 1.5 btc by disabling my account for no reason while I still had active bets. Be very wary of any product or website this guy is promoting.
Please create your own thread in the Scam Accusations board. BTW, the below doesn't make the website a scam. I'm pretty sure 99% of the betting websites request your ID in some cases. Even if they support BTC. Other than that, you didn't say anything or gave any evidence about what the website did. Hmmm. If this site is rejecting withdrawals made by users and asking them to supply documents, this is just increasing my feeling this site is a scam. There's no reason why a sportsbook should need to ask for identity documents from customers. The point of using bitcoin is for anonymity.
stingers also have nothing to do with the website itself. He's just part of its signature campaign (which probably accepts users with a neg trust).
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