My Account was Accused of Account Farming by MoneyToken Auditor

[paulgn32]

Dear Admin, Moderator and All Community..

I recently joined the bounty campaign program from MoneyToken. After the bounty was over, their audit team accused me of account farming. Because of that, I am on their red list. Then the red list will be published in the reputation section.
According to information from the moneytoken team, the auditors are recruited from Bitcointalk. But they do not give his name, just an email address. I've sent an appeal email to him, but no response has been made yet.

I am here to defend myself and would like to ask your suggestion.
I want to say that the auditor maybe has made a mistake. I never do account farming as alleged. Here is the screenshot from auditor spreadsheet

This red marked (1285643) is the account alleged to me. After I searched, this account belongs to someone from Philippines. That's really weird, because I'm from Indonesia. I found her facebook account, her name is Jenniline Reyes Espiritu and I have communicated with her. She also has passed the kyc on MoneyToken website.


My real account is only 1285135.

I found that my account with these Filipinos has the same registration date in bitcointalk, but it doesn't mean we do account farming.
According to bitcointalk statistical information (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats), bitcointalk has more than 400 registrations per day. This means that within 3 days there are 400 new users with the same registration date and there are more than 1200 new accounts that have similar user (id) number. The probability of joining in the same bounty is very high.
Is there anyone who can guarantee in a bounty program always joined by participants who have different registration date?

The fact is we are in different country and don't know each other.

What should I do? The only thing i can do now is wait for auditor's response or maybe anyone has information about the their auditor contact (bitcointalk name or telegram id), please let me know. So i can contact him directly. Hope this issue can be fixed.


MoneyToken Bounty : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3407082.0

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[mdayonliner]

What should I do? The only thing i can do now is wait for auditor's response. Or maybe anyone has information about the their auditor contact (bitcointalk name or telegram id), please let me know. So i can contact him directly. Hope this issue can be fixed.

This is the only thing you can do now as BitcoinTalk does not moderate bounty issues.

PS: This topic actually belongs to Reputations section.

[Findingnemo]

They have anyother proof other than the same date of registrations?

Even if you are doing account farming what is their problem if you completed all the requirements to get your stakes then you have to be rewarded.

But mods and admins don't have any job with these maybe some DT member will take a look here.

[Alexa777]

I have the same problem. The auditor made a massive mistake, how to solve it?

[Joel_Jantsen]

Now I'm curious to know who is the auditor and whether they have the sufficient proofs for the connections mentioned above. Also Op, please remove his/her facebook link from your post and edit the pictures as you're invading their privacy policies without their consent.

Your only job now is to ask for proofs from the auditor. If he refuses to give it to you, you can appeal to the project managers/ higher management team.

[paulgn32]

please remove his/her facebook link from your post and edit the pictures as you're invading their privacy policies without their consent.

I completely forgot about that. Thanks for reminding.

[icopress]

 





Fail - http://telegra.ph/Fale-07-25

[paulgn32]

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Fail - http://telegra.ph/Fale-07-25

First, I apologize if any of my words hurt you.
I would say honestly, that I never do farming accounts.
heberkaloko32 is my friend. I can show you his social media profile link. He's a friend of my band and we both learned cryptocurrency. If you do not believe me, I can prove it. If you need any documents, identity cards, driving license, birth certificates, school certificates and others, I can send it to you to prove the existence of the person. If necessary we (me, heberkaloko and you) can do video call to be more confident.
As you can see, the eth transaction I sent to him was only to help him sell his assets, because he did not have eth for the transaction fee.
Did you find massive eth/token transactions to my wallet like the farmer do?
If i did something wrong, I'm sorry. My intention is only to help him.

[icopress]

First, I apologize if any of my words hurt you.
I would say honestly, that I never do farming accounts.
heberkaloko32 is my friend. I can show you his social media profile link. He's a friend of my band and we both learned cryptocurrency. If you do not believe me, I can prove it. If you need any documents, identity cards, driving license, birth certificates, school certificates and others, I can send it to you to prove the existence of the person. If necessary we (me, heberkaloko and you) can do video call to be more confident.
As you can see, the eth transaction I sent to him was only to help him sell his assets, because he did not have eth for the transaction fee.
Did you find massive eth/token transactions to my wallet like the farmer do?
If i did something wrong, I'm sorry. My intention is only to help him.

Transactions are not a fundamental argument.
You must look again at the images, if you can not understand the similarities.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Transactions are not a fundamental argument.
You must look again at the images, if you can not understand the similarities.

What are you talking about? Transactions are the only fundamentals that would be taken seriously over any other proofs. You can fake images, chats, links but no a transaction on a blockchain? I don't know what you're referring to, but an argument with a transaction as a proof will always have the upper hand.

[icopress]

Transactions are not a fundamental argument.
You must look again at the images, if you can not understand the similarities.

What are you talking about? Transactions are the only fundamentals that would be taken seriously over any other proofs. You can fake images, chats, links but no a transaction on a blockchain? I don't know what you're referring to, but an argument with a transaction as a proof will always have the upper hand.

I spoke in the context of this situation, implying that there is enough evidence.
Usually the conversation starts with the phrase "I do not farming" and ends with the words "this is my friend / family / cat"

[paulgn32]

I spoke in the context of this situation, implying that there is enough evidence.
Usually the conversation starts with the phrase "I do not farming" and ends with the words "this is my friend / family / cat"

What do you mean? What kind of conversation would you expect? I certainly will say that, because that's the reality. I have been honest to tell you everything. What else?

I joined this community because i wanted to learn crypto and the blockchain technology. As far as i know, blockchain transactions are most fundamental. Because it is impossible to manipulate it.
In this bounty case, I have nothing to do with account vanesha, roycilik, dreamsnight or armanda90. This account is not mine. That accounts definitely belongs to other people. You can pm them to confirm their data if you do not believe that the account belongs to them. Or check their transaction.

But anyway, what's their connections with the moneytoken bounty? Did they join the same bounty too? Have you found their transaction to my address?
And why I didn't see your statement about this account 1285643? Isn't this account your accusation before?

[heberkaloko32]

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First, I apologize if any of my words hurt you.
I would say honestly, that I never do farming accounts.
heberkaloko32 is my friend. I can show you his social media profile link. He's a friend of my band and we both learned cryptocurrency. If you do not believe me, I can prove it. If you need any documents, identity cards, driving license, birth certificates, school certificates and others, I can send it to you to prove the existence of the person. If necessary we (me, heberkaloko and you) can do video call to be more confident.
As you can see, the eth transaction I sent to him was only to help him sell his assets, because he did not have eth for the transaction fee.
Did you find massive eth/token transactions to my wallet like the farmer do?
If i did something wrong, I'm sorry. My intention is only to help him.

Hello sir.. are you really with your opinion about account farming ? Paulgn32 is my friend and we learn crypto together. Paulgn32 help me to sell my assets. And please be kind sir, 32 is our band. And we put 32 to our name.
If you wanna prove, let us send our id card or any else what you want
Please check our link facebook and you will find me in his photo
And sorry to doubt you sir. This is my only account
Thankyou sir

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I would say honestly, that I never do farming accounts.

That's what all account farmers say, and cheating bounties is a separate issue.

Nobody here can help you with the MoneyToken accusation, but I'd suggest not having a bunch of friends joining the same bounty AND linking the accounts through transactions if you don't want people thinking you're cheating the bounty.  All the suggestions you made about having a teleconference and looking at social media profiles aren't great proof that anybody is separate, and having someone look at that is a big time waster.

I suggest to having a teleconference and viewing our entire profile including providing our identity card is proof of my seriousness to prove that we are not the same person.

And I'm telling you that you're going to get very few people willing to take the time to do that, especially when it could all be faked.  Blockchain transactions can't be faked, which is why they're the only solid evidence that could link alt accounts.  See if MoneyToken is willing to look at all of the evidence you're willing to provide.  My guess is that they won't.  Since you now know the standards, I would advise you to stop sending all the funds you earn to one account.  It's a much better solution, and if you don't listen to it you risk getting tagged or continually banned from bounties.

[paulgn32]

Nobody here can help you with the MoneyToken accusation, but I'd suggest not having a bunch of friends joining the same bounty AND linking the accounts through transactions if you don't want people thinking you're cheating the bounty.  All the suggestions you made about having a teleconference and looking at social media profiles aren't great proof that anybody is separate, and having someone look at that is a big time waster.

I suggest to having a teleconference and viewing our entire profile including providing our identity card is proof of my seriousness to prove that we are not the same person.

And I'm telling you that you're going to get very few people willing to take the time to do that, especially when it could all be faked.  Blockchain transactions can't be faked, which is why they're the only solid evidence that could link alt accounts.  See if MoneyToken is willing to look at all of the evidence you're willing to provide.  My guess is that they won't.  Since you now know the standards, I would advise you to stop sending all the funds you earn to one account.  It's a much better solution, and if you don't listen to it you risk getting tagged or continually banned from bounties.

Thank you for your advice, I really appreciate it. I will remember it.
Whenever they have a time, I will be willing to give them everything they need to fix this problem.