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The only reason I bought a ps3 recently was because of the last of us and it was worth every $ I spent I have played around about 6 times now.
For me it really doesn't seem worth it. No game will. It'll probably take at least 40 really good games to buy any console. PC gaming is the way to go and only one game won't change this statement. One of the reasons I was looking for a emulator I wouldn't play many other games on the console and would probably end up in selling it after I get bored of the game maybe the developers are planning on making a pc version of the game. There is no emulator that will properly emulate PS3 games at this time. PC's aren't powerful enough to emulate the PS3, and won't be for years to come. It was only recently that PC's became fast enough to emulate the PS2 well, and the PS2 is (obviously) far behind what the PS3 is capable of. My advice is this: Buy a used PS3, and a used copy of The Last Of Us. Play through it, then sell it all again. You won't lose much, if anything, if you don't save it for long. TL;DR version for everyone, Current PC power is too low to fully emulate PS3 games. Stop searching.
Really? I don't know much about console or PC gaming but I find that hard to believe. Think about it this way. Emulators cannot use a computer's GPU chip. It uses the CPU to do both CPU work AND graphics rendering. The PS2/PS3/PS4 has a dedicated graphics chip for handling graphics. Until the CPU is fast enough to emulate what the built-in graphics chip does on the console, it cannot render those games properly. And CPU's are generally TERRIBLE at rendering graphics in the first place because they aren't special built for the purpose (and no, the built-in GPU on the latest core processors can't be used for emulation either). So, emulators use sheer CPU bruteforce to emulate graphics that would be much more efficiently emulated on a GPU made for the purpose. It's like using a sail to get a car down the dragstrip instead of an engine. If you have a big enough sail, you might be able to go faster than a Ford Model T, but you're still not going to be competing with modern vehicles that have the proper propulsion for the application.
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February 19, 2014, 04:59:34 PM |
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The only reason I bought a ps3 recently was because of the last of us and it was worth every $ I spent I have played around about 6 times now.
For me it really doesn't seem worth it. No game will. It'll probably take at least 40 really good games to buy any console. PC gaming is the way to go and only one game won't change this statement. One of the reasons I was looking for a emulator I wouldn't play many other games on the console and would probably end up in selling it after I get bored of the game maybe the developers are planning on making a pc version of the game. There is no emulator that will properly emulate PS3 games at this time. PC's aren't powerful enough to emulate the PS3, and won't be for years to come. It was only recently that PC's became fast enough to emulate the PS2 well, and the PS2 is (obviously) far behind what the PS3 is capable of. My advice is this: Buy a used PS3, and a used copy of The Last Of Us. Play through it, then sell it all again. You won't lose much, if anything, if you don't save it for long. TL;DR version for everyone, Current PC power is too low to fully emulate PS3 games. Stop searching.
Really? I don't know much about console or PC gaming but I find that hard to believe. Think about it this way. Emulators cannot use a computer's GPU chip. It uses the CPU to do both CPU work AND graphics rendering. The PS2/PS3/PS4 has a dedicated graphics chip for handling graphics. Until the CPU is fast enough to emulate what the built-in graphics chip does on the console, it cannot render those games properly. And CPU's are generally TERRIBLE at rendering graphics in the first place because they aren't special built for the purpose (and no, the built-in GPU on the latest core processors can't be used for emulation either). So, emulators use sheer CPU bruteforce to emulate graphics that would be much more efficiently emulated on a GPU made for the purpose. It's like using a sail to get a car down the dragstrip instead of an engine. If you have a big enough sail, you might be able to go faster than a Ford Model T, but you're still not going to be competing with modern vehicles that have the proper propulsion for the application. Even high end gaming PCs? I imagined you could build yourself a PC to the specs you wanted, far surpassing any consoles?
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Mythul
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February 19, 2014, 05:05:50 PM |
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I haven't heard of any good PS3 emulators either.
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SgtSpike
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February 19, 2014, 07:41:31 PM |
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The only reason I bought a ps3 recently was because of the last of us and it was worth every $ I spent I have played around about 6 times now.
For me it really doesn't seem worth it. No game will. It'll probably take at least 40 really good games to buy any console. PC gaming is the way to go and only one game won't change this statement. One of the reasons I was looking for a emulator I wouldn't play many other games on the console and would probably end up in selling it after I get bored of the game maybe the developers are planning on making a pc version of the game. There is no emulator that will properly emulate PS3 games at this time. PC's aren't powerful enough to emulate the PS3, and won't be for years to come. It was only recently that PC's became fast enough to emulate the PS2 well, and the PS2 is (obviously) far behind what the PS3 is capable of. My advice is this: Buy a used PS3, and a used copy of The Last Of Us. Play through it, then sell it all again. You won't lose much, if anything, if you don't save it for long. TL;DR version for everyone, Current PC power is too low to fully emulate PS3 games. Stop searching.
Really? I don't know much about console or PC gaming but I find that hard to believe. Think about it this way. Emulators cannot use a computer's GPU chip. It uses the CPU to do both CPU work AND graphics rendering. The PS2/PS3/PS4 has a dedicated graphics chip for handling graphics. Until the CPU is fast enough to emulate what the built-in graphics chip does on the console, it cannot render those games properly. And CPU's are generally TERRIBLE at rendering graphics in the first place because they aren't special built for the purpose (and no, the built-in GPU on the latest core processors can't be used for emulation either). So, emulators use sheer CPU bruteforce to emulate graphics that would be much more efficiently emulated on a GPU made for the purpose. It's like using a sail to get a car down the dragstrip instead of an engine. If you have a big enough sail, you might be able to go faster than a Ford Model T, but you're still not going to be competing with modern vehicles that have the proper propulsion for the application. Even high end gaming PCs? I imagined you could build yourself a PC to the specs you wanted, far surpassing any consoles? The specs surpass a console, sure, but remember that you're not running the console's code, you're emulating it. If you built your own console that could run PS3 code directly, you could blow the visual quality of it out of the water. But a computer is not capable of running PS3 code directly, only of emulating what the PS3 is doing. An emulator takes each bit of code for a game, and says "ok, if I was a PS3, what would I do with this?" This happens in real-time, and only using the CPU, not the GPU. Because it cannot use the GPU, the graphics are difficult and slow to render. It is way, way, way, way less efficient than running the code directly on the console, which is why even the highest-end computers couldn't emulate the PS2 until a few years ago, and why today's highest-end computers aren't even close to being powerful enough to emulate the PS3 yet. Another way to look at it is our modeling of the physical world around us. Scientists can emulate a brain's neural network, but it takes hours to emulate a single second of brain activity, even on a huge supercomputer, because computers work differently than our brains. Brain activity running on brains is really fast, because that's what brains are made for. Brain activity running on computers is really slow, because that's not what computers are made for. Likewise, console code running on a console runs fast because that's what the console is made for, but console code running on a computer is slow because the computer has to pretend it is a console, and it's not possible to actually fully utilize all of the hardware that a computer can offer.
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February 19, 2014, 09:44:01 PM |
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I haven't heard of any good PS3 emulators either.
So I guess anyone claiming they know/have a emulator is talking shit and is likely to be a virus?
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mprep
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February 19, 2014, 09:58:35 PM |
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The only reason I bought a ps3 recently was because of the last of us and it was worth every $ I spent I have played around about 6 times now.
For me it really doesn't seem worth it. No game will. It'll probably take at least 40 really good games to buy any console. PC gaming is the way to go and only one game won't change this statement. One of the reasons I was looking for a emulator I wouldn't play many other games on the console and would probably end up in selling it after I get bored of the game maybe the developers are planning on making a pc version of the game. There is no emulator that will properly emulate PS3 games at this time. PC's aren't powerful enough to emulate the PS3, and won't be for years to come. It was only recently that PC's became fast enough to emulate the PS2 well, and the PS2 is (obviously) far behind what the PS3 is capable of. My advice is this: Buy a used PS3, and a used copy of The Last Of Us. Play through it, then sell it all again. You won't lose much, if anything, if you don't save it for long. TL;DR version for everyone, Current PC power is too low to fully emulate PS3 games. Stop searching.
Really? I don't know much about console or PC gaming but I find that hard to believe. Think about it this way. Emulators cannot use a computer's GPU chip. It uses the CPU to do both CPU work AND graphics rendering. The PS2/PS3/PS4 has a dedicated graphics chip for handling graphics. Until the CPU is fast enough to emulate what the built-in graphics chip does on the console, it cannot render those games properly. And CPU's are generally TERRIBLE at rendering graphics in the first place because they aren't special built for the purpose (and no, the built-in GPU on the latest core processors can't be used for emulation either). So, emulators use sheer CPU bruteforce to emulate graphics that would be much more efficiently emulated on a GPU made for the purpose. It's like using a sail to get a car down the dragstrip instead of an engine. If you have a big enough sail, you might be able to go faster than a Ford Model T, but you're still not going to be competing with modern vehicles that have the proper propulsion for the application. Even high end gaming PCs? I imagined you could build yourself a PC to the specs you wanted, far surpassing any consoles? The specs surpass a console, sure, but remember that you're not running the console's code, you're emulating it. If you built your own console that could run PS3 code directly, you could blow the visual quality of it out of the water. But a computer is not capable of running PS3 code directly, only of emulating what the PS3 is doing. An emulator takes each bit of code for a game, and says "ok, if I was a PS3, what would I do with this?" This happens in real-time, and only using the CPU, not the GPU. Because it cannot use the GPU, the graphics are difficult and slow to render. It is way, way, way, way less efficient than running the code directly on the console, which is why even the highest-end computers couldn't emulate the PS2 until a few years ago, and why today's highest-end computers aren't even close to being powerful enough to emulate the PS3 yet. Another way to look at it is our modeling of the physical world around us. Scientists can emulate a brain's neural network, but it takes hours to emulate a single second of brain activity, even on a huge supercomputer, because computers work differently than our brains. Brain activity running on brains is really fast, because that's what brains are made for. Brain activity running on computers is really slow, because that's not what computers are made for. Likewise, console code running on a console runs fast because that's what the console is made for, but console code running on a computer is slow because the computer has to pretend it is a console, and it's not possible to actually fully utilize all of the hardware that a computer can offer. So soon we might be able to emulate more primitive brains? ;
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February 19, 2014, 11:09:41 PM |
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Emulation is not easy task, but in 10 years full PS3 emulation might be real.
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February 19, 2014, 11:29:06 PM |
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Emulation is not easy task, but in 10 years full PS3 emulation might be real.
It would be pointless then just like ps2 emulation is not good now.
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February 20, 2014, 06:00:52 AM |
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Emulation is not easy task, but in 10 years full PS3 emulation might be real.
It would be pointless then just like ps2 emulation is not good now. Well yes, you are right. It would be outdated and appealing to few people only but that is the way things works in emulation world.
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February 20, 2014, 11:50:53 AM |
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XBOX 360, PS4 and XBO emulator are more possible than a supposed PS3 the architecture is too different and too complexe to emulate
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MakeBelieve (OP)
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February 20, 2014, 11:59:28 AM |
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XBOX 360, PS4 and XBO emulator are more possible than a supposed PS3 the architecture is too different and too complexe to emulate
Why wants the difference? ps4 and xbox one are more power hungry so it would be more difficult.
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Baitty
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February 20, 2014, 02:03:33 PM |
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ps2 emulator still has some performance drops which is quite annoying but I get to play the old fallout game on there so I'm not complaining to much.
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SgtSpike
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February 20, 2014, 08:11:38 PM |
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Emulation is not easy task, but in 10 years full PS3 emulation might be real.
It would be pointless then just like ps2 emulation is not good now. Pointless? Until a proper replacement for Burnout 3 comes along, it is far from pointless!
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February 20, 2014, 08:27:44 PM |
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if there comes a non-buggy and fully working emulator our PCs probably won't be able to handle those PS3 games besides a PS3 isn't that expensive now, it would cool to buy, I would like to own it just because of the PS Move
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February 20, 2014, 09:03:49 PM |
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Emulators cannot use a computer's GPU chip They could do that via GPGPU
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February 23, 2014, 07:56:51 AM |
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If there was a PS3 emulator you would have to buy a computer that cost over $10,000 just to play. If you like the game so much, just buy a used PS3, and support the developers and buy the game new.
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February 23, 2014, 08:01:49 AM |
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The only reason I bought a ps3 recently was because of the last of us and it was worth every $ I spent I have played around about 6 times now.
For me it really doesn't seem worth it. No game will. It'll probably take at least 40 really good games to buy any console. PC gaming is the way to go and only one game won't change this statement. One of the reasons I was looking for a emulator I wouldn't play many other games on the console and would probably end up in selling it after I get bored of the game maybe the developers are planning on making a pc version of the game. There is no emulator that will properly emulate PS3 games at this time. PC's aren't powerful enough to emulate the PS3, and won't be for years to come. It was only recently that PC's became fast enough to emulate the PS2 well, and the PS2 is (obviously) far behind what the PS3 is capable of. My advice is this: Buy a used PS3, and a used copy of The Last Of Us. Play through it, then sell it all again. You won't lose much, if anything, if you don't save it for long. TL;DR version for everyone, Current PC power is too low to fully emulate PS3 games. Stop searching.
Really? I don't know much about console or PC gaming but I find that hard to believe. Think about it this way. Emulators cannot use a computer's GPU chip. It uses the CPU to do both CPU work AND graphics rendering. The PS2/PS3/PS4 has a dedicated graphics chip for handling graphics. Until the CPU is fast enough to emulate what the built-in graphics chip does on the console, it cannot render those games properly. And CPU's are generally TERRIBLE at rendering graphics in the first place because they aren't special built for the purpose (and no, the built-in GPU on the latest core processors can't be used for emulation either). So, emulators use sheer CPU bruteforce to emulate graphics that would be much more efficiently emulated on a GPU made for the purpose. It's like using a sail to get a car down the dragstrip instead of an engine. If you have a big enough sail, you might be able to go faster than a Ford Model T, but you're still not going to be competing with modern vehicles that have the proper propulsion for the application. That's not true. Emulators use anything available to them, including a GPU. Else we wouldn't have N64 emulator, PS2 emulators, Gamecube Wii emulators that only run depending on how powerful of a GPU you have.
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February 24, 2014, 06:06:26 AM |
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emulators not working
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February 24, 2014, 09:47:54 AM |
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emulators not working
Emulators do work.
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Kiki112
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February 24, 2014, 11:23:53 AM |
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emulators not working
Emulators do work. they do work but they can't be as good as the "real" thing, the games will be slower then on an actual PS
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