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July 22, 2018, 01:54:43 PM
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Nowadays all countries only pay attention to the academic, they never pay attention to the moral education anymore, now more people are very rude and don't respect elders anymore, and we come to one point where people hackers are cool, people are proud to be hacker, don't they realize that hacker are actually stealing from other people?

Nowadays scammers are everywhere, and they proud to be a scammer and called their victim an idiot who falls into their trap, they got no shame anymore to do bad things, I think all of this happen due to the lack of moral education

Moral education supposed to be taught at school and the parents also need to responsible to teach their children, moral education can make the world become better place to live


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July 22, 2018, 06:30:57 PM
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I've never really thought about this but now that youve mentioned it, I believe youre right. The school system should focus more on moral education.

Morality and ethics are what really makes us function as a species. Some say that good morals are things that should only be taught at home, but I think it shouldnt stop there.

While academics are the purpose of education, it shouldnt mean that we get to neglect ethics. Whats the use of intelligence if youre gonna use it for bad purposes anyway? A good brain should also come with a good heart.


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July 22, 2018, 06:39:09 PM
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Nowadays all countries only pay attention to the academic, they never pay attention to the moral education anymore

They shouldn't. That is a responsibility of a parent and no one can objectively tell you what is moral and what is not.

and we come to one point where people hackers are cool, people are proud to be hacker, don't they realize that hacker are actually stealing from other people?

That is not even close to a definition of a hacker. People who steal are thieves, whether they use a method of pickpocket, lockpick, threat or hacking is just a tool they use. There are lockpickers that legally open people's houses when they get locked out. There are governments that take taxes under threat of imprisonment. There are hackers that test security of a network, hack and expose criminals or are just using their skills as a form of activism.

People are proud to be hackers because hacking something is not always easy, but it can still be very honest and honorable work.

Nowadays scammers are everywhere, and they proud to be a scammer and called their victim an idiot who falls into their trap, they got no shame anymore to do bad things, I think all of this happen due to the lack of moral education

You are having a selective memory. There where always scammers that were proud of what they do and there are still scammers that are ashamed of it.

Moral education supposed to be taught at school and the parents also need to responsible to teach their children, moral education can make the world become better place to live

Moral education is nothing more than training a person to be obedient to your values and beliefs without any reasonable explanation.
If it makes sense to do something, then it can be thought scientifically, but if you have no proof, no evidence and no reasoning to act a certain way, that is just brainwashing an individual to blindly follow your instructions.
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July 22, 2018, 06:43:46 PM
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Indeed we need to stop pushing our children through competition for 15 years then make them compete for money, it only promotes egoism. Education must be based on cooperation and letting everyone contribute, since many different aspects is needed to solve the problems of earth, not just IQ.

The socially and emotionally complete or intelligent children rather(EQ), will be left out and feel miss adjusted or un-rewarded, but they often succeed just as fine later in life and solve just as many problems as do the ones with good grades and high IQ.




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July 22, 2018, 09:20:28 PM
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Nowadays all countries only pay attention to the academic, they never pay attention to the moral education anymore, now more people are very rude and don't respect elders anymore, and we come to one point where people hackers are cool, people are proud to be hacker, don't they realize that hacker are actually stealing from other people?

Nowadays scammers are everywhere, and they proud to be a scammer and called their victim an idiot who falls into their trap, they got no shame anymore to do bad things, I think all of this happen due to the lack of moral education

Moral education supposed to be taught at school and the parents also need to responsible to teach their children, moral education can make the world become better place to live
i think you’re right nowadays young ones doesn’t care anymore to as what they are doing if it is morally upright or wrong...when their parents scold them they answered back...more broken families also because of some married couples separates because of third party not even thinking about the future impact of their actions to their children...
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July 22, 2018, 11:00:59 PM
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Nowadays all countries only pay attention to the academic, they never pay attention to the moral education anymore, now more people are very rude and don't respect elders anymore, and we come to one point where people hackers are cool, people are proud to be hacker, don't they realize that hacker are actually stealing from other people?

Nowadays scammers are everywhere, and they proud to be a scammer and called their victim an idiot who falls into their trap, they got no shame anymore to do bad things, I think all of this happen due to the lack of moral education

Moral education supposed to be taught at school and the parents also need to responsible to teach their children, moral education can make the world become better place to live

teaching people morals and respect, leads also to those people being abusable.

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July 22, 2018, 11:17:39 PM
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Nowadays all countries only pay attention to the academic, they never pay attention to the moral education anymore, now more people are very rude and don't respect elders anymore, and we come to one point where people hackers are cool, people are proud to be hacker, don't they realize that hacker are actually stealing from other people?

Nowadays scammers are everywhere, and they proud to be a scammer and called their victim an idiot who falls into their trap, they got no shame anymore to do bad things, I think all of this happen due to the lack of moral education

Moral education supposed to be taught at school and the parents also need to responsible to teach their children, moral education can make the world become better place to live
Yes it is true I agree with you that it is true that in any country where they found out they are academic, they are not even more interested in learning a moral education, they are about to be taught about breaking the old ones and not doing bad things to everyone like stealing your neighbor so no matter how it works like hackers do not choose to just do bad things it's ok to them, so to avoid this thing is really to be found by the parent's guidance to guide them not to to work badly, so for the sake of doing bad work no longer feel embarrassed.
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July 23, 2018, 08:11:08 AM
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Absolutely you'll right parent should be responsable to teach the children about moral education ad of course to we need to have a subject about moral education seriously , because we know that the children today  is the new generation  for the future ,,if this moral education will not seriously teaching to thier generation what about the future of the new generation?
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July 23, 2018, 10:45:30 AM
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Perfect example of this moral education ,you can seen in JAPAN...Their moral education is one of the reason of his growth.

latest example. In FIFA WORLD CUP 2018, After losing the game,their players cleaned their dressing room before leaving and also fans cleaned the stadium of their side.

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July 23, 2018, 12:41:37 PM
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Nowadays all countries only pay attention to the academic, they never pay attention to the moral education anymore, now more people are very rude and don't respect elders anymore, and we come to one point where people hackers are cool, people are proud to be hacker, don't they realize that hacker are actually stealing from other people?

Nowadays scammers are everywhere, and they proud to be a scammer and called their victim an idiot who falls into their trap, they got no shame anymore to do bad things, I think all of this happen due to the lack of moral education

Moral education supposed to be taught at school and the parents also need to responsible to teach their children, moral education can make the world become better place to live

First off, I think moral education should start inside the home. Kids should be taught good morals at an early age, because if you have a good foundation, then you will carry it with you through adulthood. Second, I agree on the scammers and hackers part. Sometimes you dont understand how and why people could do such a thing, and its a sad thought that there are those who would do that for easy money.
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July 31, 2018, 12:47:27 PM
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They shouldn't. That is a responsibility of a parent and no one can objectively tell you what is moral and what is not.

I disagree with you, I think parents and school got the responsibility to teach moral education, school is the place to learn and guide the younger generation, and in some country the children spend almost 8 hours a day at school, so the teaching from the parents and school are equally important

That is not even close to a definition of a hacker. People who steal are thieves, whether they use a method of pickpocket, lockpick, threat or hacking is just a tool they use. There are lockpickers that legally open people's houses when they get locked out. There are governments that take taxes under threat of imprisonment. There are hackers that test security of a network, hack and expose criminals or are just using their skills as a form of activism.

People are proud to be hackers because hacking something is not always easy, but it can still be very honest and honorable work.
That is a very good point, the one that you mention is the white hat hacker, the one that I talk about is the black hat hacker

You are having a selective memory. There where always scammers that were proud of what they do and there are still scammers that are ashamed of it.
I never heard any scammers that ashamed of what they had done, they only regret when they got caught


Moral education is nothing more than training a person to be obedient to your values and beliefs without any reasonable explanation.
If it makes sense to do something, then it can be thought scientifically, but if you have no proof, no evidence and no reasoning to act a certain way, that is just brainwashing an individual to blindly follow your instructions
Moral education is not about train people to obedient, but more of respect the culture and how to behave in society, it got nothing to do with scientific things and you won't find any moral education in scientific book

Perfect example of this moral education ,you can seen in JAPAN...Their moral education is one of the reason of his growth.

latest example. In FIFA WORLD CUP 2018, After losing the game,their players cleaned their dressing room before leaving and also fans cleaned the stadium of their side.


Japan is certainly the country with high moral education, the children are trained to be polite from early age, in the early age there are no academic lesson, they were taught the moral education

And see how they respect people when they cross the road
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July 31, 2018, 04:32:16 PM
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Every countries do have its own education system and is anchored to the global standard that is set arbitrarily. And these education system continuously improving and innovating in accordance to the need and trend when it comes to academic. We cannot deny that the government and the people of the countries themselves are focusing on the development of the academic matter and aspect of education. Not knowing that moral education is also important and is very significant to learn since it is more relevant nowadays. And that is how rhe problem starts. The government must also pay an attention about the moral aspect since it serves as the essence and heart of education. After all, education is simply not limited to the academic part of it,but also all of the other aspects of man and the universe.

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July 31, 2018, 10:31:57 PM
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No, it shouldn't be up to schools to teach us values, ethics or morals. That is the responsibility of those around us, family and friends, and yourself once you are older. The last thing we need is schools teaching us more about how to act and behave, we need more critical thinking taught. With critical thinking comes long-term thinking and maturity, and values, ethics and morals will follow.
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July 31, 2018, 11:10:55 PM
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Education is good. We need general education to progress and to develop ourselves. Without education, it is hard to get a decent job. It plays a great role in our society and in our lives. Talking about moral education, it helps us to be better. Moral is important in a society. Otherwise, we are similar to the caveman. I believe that parents must play their roles. Actually, many parents are to busy with work. Teachers at school teach general education not moral. In that case, parents, teachers and church priests or pastors, should come to help improve this aspect of our societies. Their roles are important.
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August 01, 2018, 12:39:31 AM
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I've come to see an image that's circulating on social media that says. "Kids nowadays are very well good with technology but poor with good manners." And the background of that image is an old woman standing inside a train while beside her some not so old people sitting.

Proud of being a scammer/hacker? they are proud of something that they shouldn't be - this is the milennials attitude.

The environment on where the kids are growing is also part of their building up, the schools has a big role on this and the parents as well.

AFAIK in Japan, their focus in Elementary is about moral values and look on how they are very progressive not only because of technology but also because of their attitude.

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I think that we need moral education to everyone as we all should be educated about that matter. Regardless of age, gender, social status, etc., we should know the morality as we all are humans. We usually just focused more on giving education to students academically, but morality is left behind by this. Having this education makes all of us aware about the individuality of everyone, the emotions, feelings of other and knowing what is right and wrong. This are just some of the things that we can learn from it, that's why it is important for everyone to be informed about it.

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Nowadays all countries only pay attention to the academic, they never pay attention to the moral education anymore, now more people are very rude and don't respect elders anymore, and we come to one point where people hackers are cool, people are proud to be hacker, don't they realize that hacker are actually stealing from other people?

Nowadays scammers are everywhere, and they proud to be a scammer and called their victim an idiot who falls into their trap, they got no shame anymore to do bad things, I think all of this happen due to the lack of moral education

Moral education supposed to be taught at school and the parents also need to responsible to teach their children, moral education can make the world become better place to live

I think scammers have always been everywhere and some part of human nature wants to exploit other people or society at any opportunity that arises. The thing to realize is that the human race revolves around selfishness in one way or another and although there are some exceptions, most people put their own needs and their family's needs as their first priority. When you give someone an easy opportunity don't be surprised when they take advantage of it.

Although all children need to learn right from wrong, Schools are often unable to reach much success in most cases. This kind of moral behavior is learned at an early age from the child's upbringing and surroundings and often this can even change after the person grows into and adult due to different circumstances. I think the main responsibility lies with the parents in the vast majority of cases, but things like poverty and lack of education can make a bad upbringing inevitable.

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August 07, 2018, 08:37:04 AM
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Indeed we need to stop pushing our children through competition for 15 years then make them compete for money, it only promotes egoism. Education must be based on cooperation and letting everyone contribute, since many different aspects is needed to solve the problems of earth, not just IQ.

The socially and emotionally complete or intelligent children rather(EQ), will be left out and feel miss adjusted or un-rewarded, but they often succeed just as fine later in life and solve just as many problems as do the ones with good grades and high IQ.






That's the point. For so many years we've been taught that grades are everything. And that is just ridiculous. School, parents, our environment chained us, they put us in a cage, they created our goals. And those would be: study well - go to uni/college - have secure future/ make a lot of money and you'll be fine. And that is just a huge bubble of illusions, lies. So many artsy children never  ended up as talented sculptors just because their environment told them to have more "reliable", "safe" choice, as in, becoming, idk, a programmer. That's just absurd. They we're not taught to fight for their dreams by their parents AND school.

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August 07, 2018, 04:26:10 PM
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Teaching morals is a common responsibility, schools play the most important role. How patriotism is engrained in moral education decides the countries speed and breadth of growth.

Great quote from Mahatma Gandhi on moral education

"I do not want my house to be walled in on all sides and my windows to be stuffed. I want the culture of all lands to be blown about my house as freely as possible. But I refuse to be blown off my feet by any.
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August 08, 2018, 03:07:11 AM
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We are already too late because of 'Internet'. The people that they looked up to are mostly stupid like the Logan brothers. You can also see youtubers who curses a lot like saying bitch and fuck when they talk. Meanwhile, youtube put it in your recommendations and not thinking that 12 and younger kids will watch it.
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