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July 26, 2018, 02:43:57 PM
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As a part of two gambling companies, I can say it's not, if it's a trusted site. There's definitely some scammers.

It is possible that we may have some good companies which are genuine to great extent and other where it is rigged and winning of the company owners are higher than yours or the participants. Also at the end it is a business for them and they want to earn money.

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July 27, 2018, 03:54:11 PM
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It is possible that we may have some good companies which are genuine to great extent and other where it is rigged and winning of the company owners are higher than yours or the participants. Also at the end it is a business for them and they want to earn money.

Correct but there are casinos that are long standing in the community and if you are going to play on some casino then you should visit those only. Not those new casinos which pop up every now and then - you never know which one was built for being scam.

Those who are making up stories with false claims about casinos will keep doing so only because they lost money there because they were greedy. If you cant control your greed then you will end up losing all your money. That does not mean the casino owner is a scammer.

People are more interested in self-gains > when they dont get that they start complaining about the same thing that they put their trust on in the first place.

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July 28, 2018, 04:07:18 AM
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It is possible that we may have some good companies which are genuine to great extent and other where it is rigged and winning of the company owners are higher than yours or the participants. Also at the end it is a business for them and they want to earn money.

Correct but there are casinos that are long standing in the community and if you are going to play on some casino then you should visit those only. Not those new casinos which pop up every now and then - you never know which one was built for being scam.

Those who are making up stories with false claims about casinos will keep doing so only because they lost money there because they were greedy. If you cant control your greed then you will end up losing all your money. That does not mean the casino owner is a scammer.

People are more interested in self-gains > when they dont get that they start complaining about the same thing that they put their trust on in the first place.
Yeah, those who made false statement about trusted casino are those player that can't accept defeat. They don't really understand how gambling works. Even if they know they are convincing theirself that the site is rigged because of their losses.
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July 28, 2018, 05:37:58 AM
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Never knew i just kept thinking everytime i lose that i dont have the luck to win that time. I never blame the website everytime i lose because i usually win in online casino, My stats in diff sites are most green or positive.
Oh brother when you know this is all about luck then why you aren’t making anything better in your life. Why you don’t leave this gambling and adopt some respectable and sensible way to earning. There are hundreds of sources of earning through which people are just making amazing money. You can do that too. Why to play with luck every day and getting defeat in a row.
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July 28, 2018, 12:24:26 PM
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Never knew i just kept thinking everytime i lose that i dont have the luck to win that time. I never blame the website everytime i lose because i usually win in online casino, My stats in diff sites are most green or positive.
Oh brother when you know this is all about luck then why you aren’t making anything better in your life. Why you don’t leave this gambling and adopt some respectable and sensible way to earning. There are hundreds of sources of earning through which people are just making amazing money. You can do that too. Why to play with luck every day and getting defeat in a row.
The thing about gambling addicts is that they are aware of all these. They don't even need our advice for they have heard all of it. Now you asked, why don't these people leave gambling and do something worthwhile? The answer to this question is that they are bored and they have nothing better to do. Despite the consequences, they are still gambling just because that's what they are used to do when there's nothing to do. They are already comfortable in the amount of things that they know to the point that they do not feel the need learn a new thing. They got comfortable with their salary that they don't try to start learning new ways to earn more money.

To answer this thread's question, "Are online gambling games fixed?" Yes, they are fixed. They are fixed in a way that you're going to lose by the end. Why? Because as people, we only stop gambling when we have lost our money. When we're in profit, we don't really think of quitting. We keep on betting, thinking that we might be on a roll. The end result of gambling for us is fixed. We always go home thinking, "I should've cashed my money out when I still had that much profit. Now I lost it and I lost my bankroll as well. Well, nevermind, I enjoyed anyway. (now for justification of losing both the profit and money, we tell ourselves:) Isn't gambling for entertainment anyways? Smiley"

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July 28, 2018, 07:20:00 PM
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Do you think that some online gambling games fixed? How to spot such websites  ?
Many bitcoin gambling sites will allow you to verify the results so you see that they did not changed the results after the fact, however the most common way in which I have seen casinos to scam their users is by simply not paying what their users won, if you take the time to look at the scam accusations board you will see that is the most common complain among those that complain about casinos, however sometimes the casino is right in not paying their customers since they cheated or violated the terms of service of the casino in which case they are completely justified in not paying the cheating customer.
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July 30, 2018, 08:38:52 AM
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Yeah, those who made false statement about trusted casino are those player that can't accept defeat. They don't really understand how gambling works. Even if they know they are convincing theirself that the site is rigged because of their losses.

Its because humans want to say only what they want to hear. They wont say that the they were gambling and hence they lose. Nobody wants to make them-self look guilty in front of others and thus they will say that the casino was rigged that was why they lost.

Those who say so are idiots in the first place because if the casino was going to be rigged why did they even put their money in? The answer is simple - they were greedy for making money. But nobody wants to reveal their vices to public, do they?


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July 30, 2018, 11:52:26 AM
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Do you think that some online gambling games fixed? How to spot such websites  ?

Good question.
I think most are.
This is why smart-contract based gambling is growing in popularity.
However it has to be said that not everybody is instantly able to verify the nature of a smart-contract..
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July 30, 2018, 06:08:23 PM
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Many bitcoin gambling sites will allow you to verify the results so you see that they did not changed the results after the fact, however the most common way in which I have seen casinos to scam their users is by simply not paying what their users won, if you take the time to look at the scam accusations board you will see that is the most common complain among those that complain about casinos, however sometimes the casino is right in not paying their customers since they cheated or violated the terms of service of the casino in which case they are completely justified in not paying the cheating customer.

Let me share the experience related to this. There were two friends of mine whom I introduced to a card game websites. They both enjoyed playing there and then after some time, they decided to play together on same table. They used to pick games and then sit on consecutive positions on the table. Then they used to help each by sending cards the other person needed and so on. They were caught and all their balance was suspended. Both of them appealed and one of the account was given back. You know why the site did this partiality because that account spent about 100 times the other.
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July 31, 2018, 04:35:16 AM
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Some could be fixed and i am not holding brief for them but you can't also expect to get everything 100% fair without bearing some risk because the bookies are also there to make money and just like they are able to tilt the tables in the casinos they can also fix games or fizzle with some software code to their advantage.
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July 31, 2018, 07:37:28 AM
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Some could be fixed and i am not holding brief for them but you can't also expect to get everything 100% fair without bearing some risk because the bookies are also there to make money and just like they are able to tilt the tables in the casinos they can also fix games or fizzle with some software code to their advantage.
I do agree with that knowing that the chance of the sports to be fixed are low (except on low leagues) but there are a lot of factors at play that could be of a factor to the betting sites and bookies. They take a percentage of something with the bets but with casinos, they have all the power and it could be fixed.

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August 01, 2018, 04:59:33 AM
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Never knew i just kept thinking everytime i lose that i dont have the luck to win that time. I never blame the website everytime i lose because i usually win in online casino, My stats in diff sites are most green or positive.
A mixed situation is always there, to me i play gambling for a long long time in physical casinos, now even play gambling online but still i never feel like that, may be in some cases or places online gambling games may be fixed but hope we are not expecting such thing everywhere. I think that in most places we can play online gambling very confidently.
It's a mixed situation because you can never know how much it is rigged or fixed and how many percent. I see in online casino sites that they have 1% - 5% fairness in their sites and I don't know how to verify that, and not verifying it means more mixed emotions about it. As long as there are people who believe in the site and has a great community with it, then it can be trusted in my opinion. Still, don't trust so easily and do your own research.


I also believe that every casino and online gambling sites has a percentage where it is rigged. The percentage that it is rigged grows higher the longer you play because I know the management has ways to monitor who is winning so much so they will surely do something to reverse the results that is slight unnoticable.
When a person gets into casino, either he wins or loses, this is all about a plan. The house has such strategies that this person gets attracted if he is a newbie. This attraction keeps on continuing and this man is about to be a victim of this destruction. Brothers, we lose here just to make someone else winner. Why we are doing it? don’t we know this is totally wrong?

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August 01, 2018, 08:27:58 AM
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It is possible that we may have some good companies which are genuine to great extent and other where it is rigged and winning of the company owners are higher than yours or the participants. Also at the end it is a business for them and they want to earn money.

Correct but there are casinos that are long standing in the community and if you are going to play on some casino then you should visit those only. Not those new casinos which pop up every now and then - you never know which one was built for being scam.

Those who are making up stories with false claims about casinos will keep doing so only because they lost money there because they were greedy. If you cant control your greed then you will end up losing all your money. That does not mean the casino owner is a scammer.

People are more interested in self-gains > when they dont get that they start complaining about the same thing that they put their trust on in the first place.
Yeah, those who made false statement about trusted casino are those player that can't accept defeat. They don't really understand how gambling works. Even if they know they are convincing theirself that the site is rigged because of their losses.
Those people who lose money in gambling always think like that. They think that they have been scammed by the gambling sites, but I think that very little number of gambling sites may do that, if they will continue scamming people then people will not visit their gambling sites to play gambling there, people will then lost their trust on their gambling sites.
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August 01, 2018, 12:39:36 PM
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Do you think that some online gambling games fixed? How to spot such websites  ?
Maybe the fiat currency ones could be ?
We honestly wouldn't know if it was fixed or not, the movie runner runner with ben affleck and justin timberlake actually talks about an online casino that is shady and stealing from the customers itself.

However I don't know how feasible it could be, people who try to scam their users and make money by shady ways can get less users by time and slowly die, if that happens as a casino owner it is hard to continue your life the way you do and there could be some type of issues created by other shady people that allowed you to exist for so long. I think if you take into account how many shady stuff you need to do to scam people than you will realize that it is not an easy life to be in.
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August 01, 2018, 02:40:28 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3281183.0 - I also heard that some sites claim to be provably fair, but they are not.

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August 01, 2018, 02:50:44 PM
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Do you think that some online gambling games fixed? How to spot such websites  ?
Many bitcoin gambling sites will allow you to verify the results so you see that they did not changed the results after the fact, however the most common way in which I have seen casinos to scam their users is by simply not paying what their users won, if you take the time to look at the scam accusations board you will see that is the most common complain among those that complain about casinos, however sometimes the casino is right in not paying their customers since they cheated or violated the terms of service of the casino in which case they are completely justified in not paying the cheating customer.
Most of the reputed gamling sites were doing this,just holding the users fund after he win huge rewards and asking for the too much of documents to prove the ownership of that account.This shows that those sites are not manipulating the winners,if they can they will never allow anyone to win like that.

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August 01, 2018, 03:16:21 PM
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Do you think that some online gambling games fixed? How to spot such websites  ?
I'm not sure about that and I'm not a gambling player either. What I have in mind is that gambling games are a waste. It just makes the time we have. so do not ever think that gambling will get yourself close to success. Think that there is still a lot to do. Websites gambling is very diverse and has a high level of progress, but remember again that this will not be beneficial for the future that we will go.
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August 01, 2018, 07:40:46 PM
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Provably Fair. Anything not using Provably Fair I would be suspicious.

At the end of the day, gambling sites that have invalid logic, or aren't being fair fail quickly. All it takes is one person to whistleblow, and the reviews will take the site down.

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August 01, 2018, 11:36:05 PM
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Ever heard of the phrase Provably Fair?
I didn't know about this until today but if that is in indeed the case, I want to know if there is anyway to prove that some online casinos use that kind of algorithm to ensure that the game is really fair.
Some gambling sites have their own verifier to make sure all bets are fair and if you think it's still not enough use a 3rd party verifier like dicesites they have multiple verifiers from different popular dice sites.

From my experience not all online gambling games are fixed there are games that are suspected to be fixed because you can't verify the bets. Few examples that can't be verified are slots and live casino games from 3rd party providers (those games you see on multiple casinos). I've read different opinion on these 3rd party games saying they're fair and some claiming that it's not. All I can say is that you always have the option to stay away if you think it's rigged.

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August 02, 2018, 12:08:25 AM
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I've heard of rogue online casino operators, and believe me there are so many out there. I've also heard of pirated online casino games that operate in favor of the casino. But I've never heard of "fixed online gambling games" although I don't doubt that they exist.

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