Name this US 220V@30A wall socket please

[matthewh3]

Can anyone name this US 220V@30A socket and tell me whether it's a NEMA 6 - 30R or not or whether there's a suitable adapter to NEMA 6 - 30R    I know it was for a washer-dryer, but I'm trying to find a suitable PDU to fit it.

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[bobsag3]

Can anyone name this US 220V@30A socket and tell me whether it's a NEMA 6 - 30R or not or whether there's a suitable adapter to NEMA 6 - 30R    I know it was for a washer-dryer, but I'm trying to find a suitable PDU to fit it.

I had a few of those at my warehouse- I ended up having an electrician swap the actual outlet out for $20 a pop to a NEMA 6-30r

[matthewh3]

Can anyone name this US 220V@30A socket and tell me whether it's a NEMA 6 - 30R or not or whether there's a suitable adapter to NEMA 6 - 30R    I know it was for a washer-dryer, but I'm trying to find a suitable PDU to fit it.

I had a few of those at my warehouse- I ended up having an electrician swap the actual outlet out for $20 a pop to a NEMA 6-30r

Unfortunately, it's a rented property and we're unable to change it.  So unless there's a plug adapter it's of no use.

[bobsag3]

Can anyone name this US 220V@30A socket and tell me whether it's a NEMA 6 - 30R or not or whether there's a suitable adapter to NEMA 6 - 30R    I know it was for a washer-dryer, but I'm trying to find a suitable PDU to fit it.

I had a few of those at my warehouse- I ended up having an electrician swap the actual outlet out for $20 a pop to a NEMA 6-30r

Unfortunately, it's a rented property and we're unable to change it.  So unless there's a plug adapter it's of no use.

Crap, even a rented property should let you swap that.. takes ~30seconds + the plug.

Ill pass your picture on to my guy and see if he can help you out.

[Benny1985]

Just replace the socket at the wall. No PDU is gonna be fitted for a washer/dryer outlet.

[matthewh3]

Does a PDU offer surge protection if not what should we use.  I think we're going to skip a UPS as can't really afford it.  Can anyone recommend a good cheap 220V@30A PDU with NEMA L6-30P and two C19/C20 socket connectors.

[bobsag3]

Does a PDU offer surge protection if not what should we use.  I think we're going to skip a UPS as can't really afford it.  Can anyone recommend a good cheap 220V@30A PDU with NEMA L6-30P and two C19/C20 socket connectors.

NEMA 6-30:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231037426671?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
NEMA 6-20:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161180843882?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

[matthewh3]

Does a PDU offer surge protection if not what should we use.  I think we're going to skip a UPS as can't really afford it.  Can anyone recommend a good cheap 220V@30A PDU with NEMA L6-30P and two C19/C20 socket connectors.

NEMA 6-30:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231037426671?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
NEMA 6-20:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161180843882?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Cool thanks a lot 

[bobsag3]

Does a PDU offer surge protection if not what should we use.  I think we're going to skip a UPS as can't really afford it.  Can anyone recommend a good cheap 220V@30A PDU with NEMA L6-30P and two C19/C20 socket connectors.

NEMA 6-30:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231037426671?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
NEMA 6-20:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161180843882?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Cool thanks a lot 

Np. I have a spare of each that I can ship you for the cost of shipping, so you can see if they would work.

[dogie]

When renting, do then ask for permission after (especially if its an upgrade). Worst case they'll force you to put it back, which again takes no time or money.

[ineedit]

I think that you should call it Stuart.

[HellDiverUK]

I think that you should call it Stuart.

I thought George would be a better name.

[fractalbc]

Worst case they'll force you to put it back, which again takes no time or money.

Incorrect.

Likely case is they make you pay for their licensed electrician to come in and put it back at whatever rate the local union charges.  Even worse is the house burns down and the fire marshal sees your "mod" and declares it your fault causing the landlords insurance company to back out and point at you.  But, enough fear mongering

What you have is a nema 10-30 plug.  Commonly known as an "old dryer plug".  There is no easy way of safely converting it to a nema 6-30 unless someone ran four wires to the box and only hooked up 3.  But looking at the vintage of that plug I would consider that unlikely.  That outlet has two lives and a neutral.  There is no ground.  Don't get me going on how someone could come up with a design that has a 110/220 volt appliance in a laundry room that is not grounded ... that's another story.

The "correct" thing would be to upgrade that plug to a "new dryer plug" which is a nema 14-30.  That will give you both lives for 220 along with neutral for 120 and ground.  You can safely piglead convert that to a nema 6-30.  Your landlord can not stop you from performing that upgrade by a licensed electrician in most states.  He may even split the cost.

Disclaimer: I am not a licensed electrician and this post does not constitute advice.  But please, verify what you have been told since much of what precedes my post is not only wrong, but dangerous.  A piglead conversion from a nema 10-30 to a 6-30 would be ungrounded.

[nybbler905]

Alternative!!  Get an electrician to make a box with the correct plug at one end and the ' correct ' socket at the other.  The full metal can type boxes can be mounted to a board or left on their own and usually have a ' strain relief ' going in.

With the weird things I can get my hands on, it would have been a 5 min cable making session that would include the box being grounded and tested to be safe in case of cats.
Dryer replacement cables are around 5 bux, the box is around 3 and the strain relief is another buck, having a cable ready after the move to take over the laundry room to mine coins... priceless!!

 

[ineedit]

I think that you should call it Stuart.

I thought George would be a better name.

Obviously just our Island then HellDiverUK 

[matthewh3]

Worst case they'll force you to put it back, which again takes no time or money.

Incorrect.

Likely case is they make you pay for their licensed electrician to come in and put it back at whatever rate the local union charges.  Even worse is the house burns down and the fire marshal sees your "mod" and declares it your fault causing the landlords insurance company to back out and point at you.  But, enough fear mongering

What you have is a nema 10-30 plug.  Commonly known as an "old dryer plug".  There is no easy way of safely converting it to a nema 6-30 unless someone ran four wires to the box and only hooked up 3.  But looking at the vintage of that plug I would consider that unlikely.  That outlet has two lives and a neutral.  There is no ground.  Don't get me going on how someone could come up with a design that has a 110/220 volt appliance in a laundry room that is not grounded ... that's another story.

The "correct" thing would be to upgrade that plug to a "new dryer plug" which is a nema 14-30.  That will give you both lives for 220 along with neutral for 120 and ground.  You can safely piglead convert that to a nema 6-30.  Your landlord can not stop you from performing that upgrade by a licensed electrician in most states.  He may even split the cost.

Disclaimer: I am not a licensed electrician and this post does not constitute advice.  But please, verify what you have been told since much of what precedes my post is not only wrong, but dangerous.  A piglead conversion from a nema 10-30 to a 6-30 would be ungrounded.

Yeah but doesn't the NEMA 10-30 dryer plug have two 110V lives and one ground/earth.  So changing to a NEMA L6-30P the only real hard bit is making sure that you wire up the ground/earth receptacle correctly.  While the other two 110V leaves don't really matter which receptacle that they're wired to.

[hyperdallas]

Can anyone name this US 220V@30A socket and tell me whether it's a NEMA 6 - 30R or not or whether there's a suitable adapter to NEMA 6 - 30R    I know it was for a washer-dryer, but I'm trying to find a suitable PDU to fit it.

I had a few of those at my warehouse- I ended up having an electrician swap the actual outlet out for $20 a pop to a NEMA 6-30r

Unfortunately, it's a rented property and we're unable to change it.  So unless there's a plug adapter it's of no use.

lol who gives a shit, its there problem when you moveout =)

[superfastkyle]

I've been using a 10/2 cable from a dryer outlet like op's to a L6-30 for my pdu for almost a year. The thing to realize is that dryer outlet is 20+ years old so it is probably corroded, it may need to be replaced or cleaned if possible. You don't need a 4 wire setup for this just 2 conductors and a ground

Worst case they'll force you to put it back, which again takes no time or money.

Incorrect.

Likely case is they make you pay for their licensed electrician to come in and put it back at whatever rate the local union charges.  Even worse is the house burns down and the fire marshal sees your "mod" and declares it your fault causing the landlords insurance company to back out and point at you.  But, enough fear mongering

What you have is a nema 10-30 plug.  Commonly known as an "old dryer plug".  There is no easy way of safely converting it to a nema 6-30 unless someone ran four wires to the box and only hooked up 3.  But looking at the vintage of that plug I would consider that unlikely.  That outlet has two lives and a neutral.  There is no ground.  Don't get me going on how someone could come up with a design that has a 110/220 volt appliance in a laundry room that is not grounded ... that's another story.

The "correct" thing would be to upgrade that plug to a "new dryer plug" which is a nema 14-30.  That will give you both lives for 220 along with neutral for 120 and ground.  You can safely piglead convert that to a nema 6-30.  Your landlord can not stop you from performing that upgrade by a licensed electrician in most states.  He may even split the cost.

Disclaimer: I am not a licensed electrician and this post does not constitute advice.  But please, verify what you have been told since much of what precedes my post is not only wrong, but dangerous.  A piglead conversion from a nema 10-30 to a 6-30 would be ungrounded.

[fractalbc]

Yeah but doesn't the NEMA 10-30 dryer plug have two 110V lives and one ground/earth.  So changing to a NEMA L6-30P the only real hard bit is making sure that you wire up the ground/earth receptacle correctly.  While the other two 110V leaves don't really matter which receptacle that they're wired to.

Not quite.  The NEMA 10-30 outlet has two 110V lives and one neutral.  The NEMA 6-30 wants two lives and a ground.  Your your picture of the 10-30 incorrectly claims the neutral is a ground.

[Unacceptable]

Yeah but doesn't the NEMA 10-30 dryer plug have two 110V lives and one ground/earth.  So changing to a NEMA L6-30P the only real hard bit is making sure that you wire up the ground/earth receptacle correctly.  While the other two 110V leaves don't really matter which receptacle that they're wired to.

Not quite.  The NEMA 10-30 outlet has two 110V lives and one neutral.  The NEMA 6-30 wants two lives and a ground.  Your your picture of the 10-30 incorrectly claims the neutral is a ground.

Neutral WAS ground way back when,I've got a friend who needed their dryer replaced,they got a great brand new dryer & OPPS they had a 4 prong on it...............

We ran a new 4 wire as it was real close to the breaker box,but still had no ground in the box.So we got a 8 ft ground rod & drove it in the ground & hooked the ground to it