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August 01, 2018, 05:46:32 AM Last edit: August 01, 2018, 06:51:13 AM by WaffleMaster |
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jeremypwr (OP)
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August 01, 2018, 06:25:52 AM Last edit: August 01, 2018, 06:50:34 AM by jeremypwr |
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WaffleMaster
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August 01, 2018, 06:31:53 AM Last edit: August 01, 2018, 06:49:28 AM by WaffleMaster |
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jeremypwr (OP)
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August 01, 2018, 07:57:19 AM |
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As a Campaign Manager, I made a mistake in his post count.
He flipped out and started a posting FUD scam accusations all over the forum.
When I acknowledged my mistake, I agreed to pay him after he deleted all the FUD. So he deleted it, and rightfully so.
When I told him he would not be in my next Campaign, he blackmailed me and said he would re-post FUD scam accusations again.
So he agrees to get his money, finds out he's getting removed from future Campaigns, and attempts to blackmail me.
I hope any Campaign Managers reading this avoid this individual at all costs.
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just_Alice
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August 01, 2018, 08:37:25 AM |
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That's just ridiculous. From what I've read it looked like campaign manager was trying to WARN you and not BLACKMAIL. You've made a fuss, what do you think campaign manager would look like, if he paid you after all those posts you've made within a short period of time? You should've thanked him that he was worried about getting you your payment in the first place. Needless to say on BTT in campaigns with high payment managers are strict and it's a normal situation when you make a qualifying number of posts and still not getting paid because manager can consider some of them as nonconstructive. But it's not even that kind of situation now, you were about to get paid! $960 - where did you get that number anyway? Why are you so confident you would've stayed in this campaign for any longer than 1 or 2 weeks? Any of the participants can be kicked out of the campaign. So what now, each participant should open a scam accusation for not getting potential payment?
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WaffleMaster
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August 01, 2018, 08:37:38 AM |
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As a Campaign Manager, I made a mistake in his post count.
He flipped out and started a posting FUD scam accusations all over the forum.
When I acknowledged my mistake, I agreed to pay him after he deleted all the FUD. So he deleted it, and rightfully so.
When I told him he would not be in my next Campaign, he blackmailed me and said he would re-post FUD scam accusations again.
So he agrees to get his money, finds out he's getting removed from future Campaigns, and attempts to blackmail me.
I hope any Campaign Managers reading this avoid this individual at all costs.
Your blackmail claims are completely unfounded and you can't post proof of it. We agreed to delete everything as you would make everything ok. Then you scammed me out of that. And extorted payment you already agreed to send for your error. I hope anybody with some trust rating can have a say in this scamming and extortion totaling $960 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQde3zKM.png&t=665&c=gM-U-VEbhQ8mhg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIDi0Kx7.png&t=665&c=7jUiKS-17OU6Gg)
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marlboroza
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August 01, 2018, 08:51:51 AM |
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I hope anybody with some trust rating can have a say in this scamming and extortion totaling $960 Remind me, how is that 960$ You were only one week in campaign, 1 week = 120$.
When I acknowledged my mistake, I agreed to pay him after he deleted all the FUD. So he deleted it, and rightfully so.
How do you call this?
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WaffleMaster
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August 01, 2018, 08:55:23 AM |
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I hope anybody with some trust rating can have a say in this scamming and extortion totaling $960 Remind me, how is that 960$ You were only one week in campaign, 1 week = 120$. A further 7 weeks, which he agreed to. 7 weeks = $840. Proof is in the pictures. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQde3zKM.png&t=665&c=gM-U-VEbhQ8mhg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIDi0Kx7.png&t=665&c=7jUiKS-17OU6Gg)
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jeremypwr (OP)
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August 01, 2018, 09:00:29 AM |
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Hey man, You are very confused. I never in a million years agreed to have you in my Campaign for 7 weeks. Are you out of your mind? That's not even standard Campaign Management etiquette around here to guarantee someone 2 months. You aren't owed $960. LOL ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But I can see why you are so mad, as you will be missing out on a potential $960 from my Campaign. Maybe you should have thought about that before you went off on me AND the company you are representing. You acted childish (something I have never seen before) and all for what?
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jeremypwr (OP)
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August 01, 2018, 09:02:46 AM |
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That's just ridiculous. From what I've read it looked like campaign manager was trying to WARN you and not BLACKMAIL. You've made a fuss, what do you think campaign manager would look like, if he paid you after all those posts you've made within a short period of time? You should've thanked him that he was worried about getting you your payment in the first place. Needless to say on BTT in campaigns with high payment managers are strict and it's a normal situation when you make a qualifying number of posts and still not getting paid because manager can consider some of them as nonconstructive. But it's not even that kind of situation now, you were about to get paid! $960 - where did you get that number anyway? Why are you so confident you would've stayed in this campaign for any longer than 1 or 2 weeks? Any of the participants can be kicked out of the campaign. So what now, each participant should open a scam accusation for not getting potential payment? Thank you; since he just doesn't get that I was HELPING him get his payment in the first place.
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WaffleMaster
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August 01, 2018, 09:13:15 AM Last edit: August 01, 2018, 09:33:27 AM by WaffleMaster |
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That's just ridiculous. From what I've read it looked like campaign manager was trying to WARN you and not BLACKMAIL. You've made a fuss, what do you think campaign manager would look like, if he paid you after all those posts you've made within a short period of time? You should've thanked him that he was worried about getting you your payment in the first place. Needless to say on BTT in campaigns with high payment managers are strict and it's a normal situation when you make a qualifying number of posts and still not getting paid because manager can consider some of them as nonconstructive. But it's not even that kind of situation now, you were about to get paid! $960 - where did you get that number anyway? Why are you so confident you would've stayed in this campaign for any longer than 1 or 2 weeks? Any of the participants can be kicked out of the campaign. So what now, each participant should open a scam accusation for not getting potential payment? Interesting you excluded the photo of him extorting me after he agreed to pay what he was then threatening to withhold. Also, what is interesting is your viewpoint that I'm not being scammed 7 weeks of campaign payment because he agreed to "make everything right" from his error which would certainly include reinstating me in the campaign. That's $840 in potential earnings scammed because here he is in pictures agreeing to what I stated. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQde3zKM.png&t=665&c=gM-U-VEbhQ8mhg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIDi0Kx7.png&t=665&c=7jUiKS-17OU6Gg) Not only that, for some reason he thinks or is twisting me giving him 24 hours to correct the mistake of scamming me 7 posts before opening a scam accusation for those 7 posts, is me actually blackmailing him. Which I think is pretty evidently false. But what to know what IS blackmailing and extortion? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBscnoUd.png&t=665&c=YGF-h_XGKhF0Wg)
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jeremypwr (OP)
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August 01, 2018, 09:37:13 AM |
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Sorry guys, but I will be forced to cancel the remainder of my Campaigns if this immature poster doesn't knock it off.
I hate to take money out of your pockets, but this person is not doing anyone any favors with his behavior.
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WaffleMaster
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August 01, 2018, 09:39:40 AM |
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Sorry guys, but I will be forced to cancel the remainder of my Campaigns if this immature poster doesn't knock it off.
I hate to take money out of your pockets, but this person is not doing anyone any favors with his behavior.
Do not blame me. Here you are expecting me to uphold to the agreement (which I did) while also neglecting the fact that you did not (SCAMMING). Any damage to the companies you represented and to yourself are your own. I've been nothing but transparent. And now you're probably in the dog house from them because you've dragged their name in the mud and are looking to scapegoat me. Sad man.
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August 01, 2018, 09:41:18 AM |
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A further 7 weeks, which he agreed to. 7 weeks = $840. Proof is in the pictures.
Ok, I took deeper look. They can't really change terms of this deal because it is not stated that they can change them http://archive.is/ZflfZ [1] This is stated in rules: 1 If you do NOT make a minimum of 25 constructive posts/week, you may be removed from the Campaign 2 If you change/modify your signature/avatar/personal text during this Campaign, you will be disqualified and not paid for your participation 3 If you participate in any other Campaign during this one, you will be disqualified and not paid for your participation
I can remove you from the Campaign at any time, for whatever reason Since when? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqlalggA.png&t=665&c=97lYxIRYo-dv5w) Unless you can prove last rule has been added recently, they can kick you out of campaign for whatever reason they have, unless they changed terms then they can't kick you unless you break rules marked as 1, 2 and 3. So if you can't prove this, I would suggest you to stop ranting about they kicked you out of campaign.
@jeremypwr, how do you call this: When I acknowledged my mistake, I agreed to pay him after he deleted all the FUD. So he deleted it, and rightfully so. As I understand this, their accusations started because you didn't count posts correctly and you refused to pay WaffleMaster, then you realize your mistake and you ask them to remove posts it they want to get payed. How would you call it, If I own you money and I say delete posts about me if you want to see your money? Sorry guys, but I will be forced to cancel the remainder of my Campaigns if this immature poster doesn't knock it off.
I hate to take money out of your pockets, but this person is not doing anyone any favors with his behavior.
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WaffleMaster
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August 01, 2018, 09:45:46 AM |
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A further 7 weeks, which he agreed to. 7 weeks = $840. Proof is in the pictures.
Ok, I took deeper look. They can't really change terms of this deal because it is not stated that they can change them http://archive.is/ZflfZ [1] This is stated in rules: 1 If you do NOT make a minimum of 25 constructive posts/week, you may be removed from the Campaign 2 If you change/modify your signature/avatar/personal text during this Campaign, you will be disqualified and not paid for your participation 3 If you participate in any other Campaign during this one, you will be disqualified and not paid for your participation
I can remove you from the Campaign at any time, for whatever reason Since when? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqlalggA.png&t=665&c=97lYxIRYo-dv5w) Unless you can prove last rule has been added recently, they can kick you out of campaign for whatever reason they have, unless they changed terms then they can't kick you unless you break rules marked as 1, 2 and 3. So if you can't prove this, I would suggest you to stop ranting about they kicked you out of campaign.
@jeremypwr, how do you call this: When I acknowledged my mistake, I agreed to pay him after he deleted all the FUD. So he deleted it, and rightfully so. As I understand this, their accusations started because you didn't count posts correctly and you refused to pay WaffleMaster, then you realize your mistake and you ask them to remove posts it they want to get payed. How would you call it, If I own you money and I say delete posts about me if you want to see your money? Sorry guys, but I will be forced to cancel the remainder of my Campaigns if this immature poster doesn't knock it off.
I hate to take money out of your pockets, but this person is not doing anyone any favors with his behavior.
[1] Thanks for being neutral. To answer your question, he agreed to put me back in AFTER those terms. So the later agreement to put me back in would supersede (overrule) the previous one that he made in error because he's a bad campaign manager and counts wrong.
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jeremypwr (OP)
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August 01, 2018, 09:48:00 AM |
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The problem is that this guy thinks he's entitled to 8 weeks of me paying him, which is so far from the truth.
I can kick people out (as I routinely do) based on post quality, or if someone else comes along that is more qualified.
As I mentioned, he was dropped for (among other reasons) because I selected a Legendary member (better quality poster) to take his spot.
Clearly, he's upset and has resorted to these drastic matters.
Truth be told, he was the last person to submit a new BTC address and I was gonna boot him after he did regardless!
I run a Signature Campaign; it's nothing personal.
I chose a Legendary member over a drama Hero member.
It would have been bad for business to not drop him.
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WaffleMaster
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August 01, 2018, 09:52:35 AM |
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The problem is that this guy thinks he's entitled to 8 weeks of me paying him, which is so far from the truth.
I can kick people out (as I routinely do) based on post quality, or if someone else comes along that is more qualified.
As I mentioned, he was dropped for (among other reasons) because I selected a Legendary member (better quality poster) to take his spot.
Clearly, he's upset and has resorted to these drastic matters.
Truth be told, he was the last person to submit a new BTC address and I was gonna boot him after he did regardless!
Making up things after the fact does not help your case, nor does it convince anybody. Petty personal attacks do not make you look better, either. The evidence speaks for itself, and you agreed to a deal that you then didn't follow through with (scamming me out of the campaign after saying you'd make everything right from the mistake). I'm not entitled to 8 weeks of campaign, you agreed to fix the error you made when you thought I made 18 posts then kicked me immediately after, in error. Those are facts, not things said after the fact to try and save yourself. Now you resort to petty insults and making up things after the fact to try and cover your mistakes which have tarnished this company completely, as you are an employee by them threatening to withhold payments and insulting people because of mistakes YOU made. Do you also threaten to withhold earnings on the casino? How far do you go to scam people, if you can pull off this audacious stunt in front of everybody and not even care? EDIT: Even now you continue editing your post to try and convince people the facts are not true. Absolutely shameful.
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