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I will tell you the secret to getting rich on Wall Street. You try to be greedy when others are fearful. And you try to be fearful when others are greedy. -Warren Buffet This quote is constantly bandied about as justification to invest in Bitcoin, and especially now that there has been some nice price movement in the upward direction. But this Warren Buffet quote is only relevant with the proper context, which is that Warren Buffet only invests in things he has a fundamental understanding of and can quantifiably value. You can confidently be greedy when others are fearful if you have a sound investment thesis and are a fundamental value investor. This is how he turns his investments into home runs, he knows what he's buying and what it's worth and can weather the negative sentiment until the market learns what he already knows. This doesn't apply at all to a speculative investment like crypto. Following this advice willy-nilly is gonna get you burned because you're misunderstanding the intent and the application. Don't not buy Bitcoin if that's what you want to do, but don't fool yourself into thinking you're following Warren Buffet's advice. Warren Buffet doesn't speculate, and if you're buying crypto, you're speculating.
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July 24, 2018, 07:59:02 PM |
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Warren Buffet doesn't speculate, and if you're buying crypto, you're speculating.
Agree wholeheartedly. I'm a long-time admirer of Warren Buffett, and it's obvious to me why he doesn't invest in bitcoin--he doesn't know where it's headed, and he can't analyze it like he can a business. Either you believe bitcoin has a future or you don't. Either you think bitcoin's price is going higher or you don't. Buffett can't determine whether it's undervalued or not like he can with a stock, and neither can anyone else here. Sure, you can assert that you see from the charts that it's going to $100,000 but that's not being honest or using any sort of logic. Buffett speculates too, but he's not throwing darts when he buys a stock. He's brilliant and looks deeply at the business that's behind a stock before investing. It makes all the sense in the world that he hasn't bought bitcoin, which could cause him to lose all the money he put into it. Plus he'd have a very hard time justifying that to the Berkshire Hathaway shareholders.
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July 24, 2018, 08:30:13 PM |
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I will tell you the secret to getting rich on Wall Street. You try to be greedy when others are fearful. And you try to be fearful when others are greedy. -Warren Buffet This quote is constantly bandied about as justification to invest in Bitcoin, and especially now that there has been some nice price movement in the upward direction. But this Warren Buffet quote is only relevant with the proper context, which is that Warren Buffet only invests in things he has a fundamental understanding of and can quantifiably value. You can confidently be greedy when others are fearful if you have a sound investment thesis and are a fundamental value investor. This is how he turns his investments into home runs, he knows what he's buying and what it's worth and can weather the negative sentiment until the market learns what he already knows. This doesn't apply at all to a speculative investment like crypto. Following this advice willy-nilly is gonna get you burned because you're misunderstanding the intent and the application. Don't not buy Bitcoin if that's what you want to do, but don't fool yourself into thinking you're following Warren Buffet's advice. Warren Buffet doesn't speculate, and if you're buying crypto, you're speculating. Personally, for someone to rely on Warren Buffet's quote to make investment in crypto is an outright misrepresentation and twisting of fact to suit your own purpose because Warren himself has never believed in crypto for him to have made such comments concerning it and up till this morning, that has not changed. However, the quote can be applied but in any investment decision you believed in and in a micro way, its what majority of believers in crypto have continually done without the need to read quotes such as in cases of downward trend in price when panic selling is the other of day, a lot of people still stay strong until there is a turnaround in the situation of things.
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Warren Buffett doesn't believe in gold either, and that while gold has a proven track record of thousands of years. The thing with Buffett is that he likes to invest in things he can generate revenue from in form of dividends or interest. Bitcoin obviously doesn't produce anything in that way. In order to earn from crypto is to have a fundamentally strong POS coin with low annual inflation, but where are they? I haven't seen one single POS coin that maintained its value -- they all crashed hard and will keep crashing hard because they don't know shit. Ethereum plans to become somewhat of a POS coin, so we'll see how that goes....
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July 24, 2018, 08:43:27 PM |
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Yeah but lets not too greedy as to get sucked up in the black hole. I believe what Warren spoke was all about his experience at the Wall Street and not the crypto currency world. Things are completely different here, we know very well things can turn upside down here in any minute. Well bitcoin reached 8.3 K USD within two days and it may happen that it will turn back on us within a night. So there should be little fear always, doesnt matter whether it is up trend or down trend. Having precautions is always the better way, being greedy at right time is okay, but I still doubt its relevance in the crypto space.
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Warren Buffet doesn't speculate, and if you're buying crypto, you're speculating.
Agree wholeheartedly. I'm a long-time admirer of Warren Buffett, and it's obvious to me why he doesn't invest in bitcoin--he doesn't know where it's headed, and he can't analyze it like he can a business. Either you believe bitcoin has a future or you don't. Either you think bitcoin's price is going higher or you don't. Buffett can't determine whether it's undervalued or not like he can with a stock, and neither can anyone else here. Almost any profitable investment is risky. In any case Warren Buffet analyzed the stock markets, then invested his funds trying to hedge the risks, and he was successful on his way. I don't agree that buying a crypto currency is a speculating. The price of a PoW based crypto currency has a prime cost that can be estimated from the resources spent for mining a coins. Advertising increases the demand for crypto currency, and its price grows. This is a market price, as the price of gold or other commodity. I understand this quote of Warren Buffet like that: "be in the counter direction of the market movement", i.e. "you buy when others sell, and you sell when others buy". I approve this opinion.
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I think it is very normal, the world is freedom and competitive that everyone need to work hard to get what they want, you are free to get greedy and fearful as you want, the world is a machine that need to be running continuously without a pause, then the earth is stronger.
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He is great to be the most respected person in the world, I just say that it is true then to be yourself, this world is so difficult it takes courage to be a very feared person and do not care about other people's conversation It is important that the business is as beautiful as now . Investments everywhere are very reasonable because at the age of 11 Warrent Buffett has bought his first share with a very young business, his hard work is very good, as his knowledge and maturity grow heavily by buying farms and other stocks.
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July 24, 2018, 10:47:38 PM |
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In the encrypted market if you greed you will die, so set a clear clear goal so it will be better for you.
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July 24, 2018, 10:59:01 PM |
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I will tell you the secret to getting rich on Wall Street. You try to be greedy when others are fearful. And you try to be fearful when others are greedy. -Warren Buffet This quote is constantly bandied about as justification to invest in Bitcoin, and especially now that there has been some nice price movement in the upward direction. But this Warren Buffet quote is only relevant with the proper context, which is that Warren Buffet only invests in things he has a fundamental understanding of and can quantifiably value. You can confidently be greedy when others are fearful if you have a sound investment thesis and are a fundamental value investor. This is how he turns his investments into home runs, he knows what he's buying and what it's worth and can weather the negative sentiment until the market learns what he already knows. This doesn't apply at all to a speculative investment like crypto. Following this advice willy-nilly is gonna get you burned because you're misunderstanding the intent and the application. Don't not buy Bitcoin if that's what you want to do, but don't fool yourself into thinking you're following Warren Buffet's advice. Warren Buffet doesn't speculate, and if you're buying crypto, you're speculating. Uh..Just don't listen to what Warren Buffet say blatantly. You do know that there are stupid people out there who would take the quote literally, and not put enough thought in it. I mean, you should believe in your gut more than what you believe in other people's sayings. Warren Buffet has no experience in crypto, hence he doesn't believe in it and that's what is expected of any person. You invest only if you believe in something. Warren Buffet is a legend when it comes to the stock market, he can make quick money, and he prefers to stay in that sort of market. That doesn't make stock market everyone's favorite. And about the saying, Greed isn't the right word to use. You should use your wit and then decide if you want to go in or not, there should only be two things: Fear or no fear. Greed in between will ruin your thinking process. Don't invest into something just for money, invest to get a profit, in monetary terms and to gain exposure. That exposure is what will lead you elsewhere.
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July 24, 2018, 11:20:22 PM |
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Yeah but lets not too greedy as to get sucked up in the black hole. I believe what Warren spoke was all about his experience at the Wall Street and not the crypto currency world. Things are completely different here, we know very well things can turn upside down here in any minute. Well bitcoin reached 8.3 K USD within two days and it may happen that it will turn back on us within a night. So there should be little fear always, doesnt matter whether it is up trend or down trend. Having precautions is always the better way, being greedy at right time is okay, but I still doubt its relevance in the crypto space.
Yeah, being greedy when others are fearful is quiet useful in a stock market, but since cryptocurrency is a highly volatile one we should take a more safe way to protect your money. In cryptocurrency everything is possible in one whole day, but I like the idea of investing during a dump market that is best for me.
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July 25, 2018, 12:01:23 AM |
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I will tell you the secret to getting rich on Wall Street. You try to be greedy when others are fearful. And you try to be fearful when others are greedy. -Warren Buffet This quote is constantly bandied about as justification to invest in Bitcoin, and especially now that there has been some nice price movement in the upward direction. But this Warren Buffet quote is only relevant with the proper context, which is that Warren Buffet only invests in things he has a fundamental understanding of and can quantifiably value. You can confidently be greedy when others are fearful if you have a sound investment thesis and are a fundamental value investor. This is how he turns his investments into home runs, he knows what he's buying and what it's worth and can weather the negative sentiment until the market learns what he already knows. This doesn't apply at all to a speculative investment like crypto. Following this advice willy-nilly is gonna get you burned because you're misunderstanding the intent and the application. Don't not buy Bitcoin if that's what you want to do, but don't fool yourself into thinking you're following Warren Buffet's advice. Warren Buffet doesn't speculate, and if you're buying crypto, you're speculating. Yes you are right, investing a huge amount while the market price is dumping is the best thing to do in order to earn more profit because you should always take advantage of the market in order to become very wealthy.
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July 25, 2018, 02:24:12 AM |
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Yeah but lets not too greedy as to get sucked up in the black hole. I believe what Warren spoke was all about his experience at the Wall Street and not the crypto currency world. Things are completely different here, we know very well things can turn upside down here in any minute. Well bitcoin reached 8.3 K USD within two days and it may happen that it will turn back on us within a night. So there should be little fear always, doesnt matter whether it is up trend or down trend. Having precautions is always the better way, being greedy at right time is okay, but I still doubt its relevance in the crypto space.
Right. Greed should also be leveled if you are too greedy and set too much expectations. If you fail, have you lost everything? Make sure you balance your finances before making a decision. Only then can we acquire the whole market as you wish.
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July 25, 2018, 02:29:05 AM |
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I think that mentality would ruin cryptocurrencies. Even if we have control of our finances, greediness of others will take ours and I think that even in crypto, no investments are safe. Values are moving and that gives us no assured amount. I think people see crypto as game in which if you do not win, you lose. That saddens me a bit.
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July 25, 2018, 02:54:09 AM |
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I think that mentality would ruin cryptocurrencies. Even if we have control of our finances, greediness of others will take ours and I think that even in crypto, no investments are safe. Values are moving and that gives us no assured amount. I think people see crypto as game in which if you do not win, you lose. That saddens me a bit.
greed will destroy everything for ourselves or others, in trading. greed robs our common sense of doing something stupid. if it is done by many people, it will damage the market
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Warren Buffett doesn't believe in gold either, and that while gold has a proven track record of thousands of years. The thing with Buffett is that he likes to invest in things he can generate revenue from in form of dividends or interest. Bitcoin obviously doesn't produce anything in that way. In order to earn from crypto is to have a fundamentally strong POS coin with low annual inflation, but where are they? I haven't seen one single POS coin that maintained its value -- they all crashed hard and will keep crashing hard because they don't know shit. Ethereum plans to become somewhat of a POS coin, so we'll see how that goes....
Be greedy when others are afraid? when fearful of someone you do not care and do not imitate so that you do not lose everything and do not be greedy for all time because it does not help
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I don't think people need to be greedy when getting involved with cryptocurrency investment and signature bounty campaigns. I believe that people can still manage to earn profit following the normal procedure and for some being fearful that their investment might be gone wherein the tend to sell their btc during bear market. For some people being greedy in joining signature bitcoin talk where they do multiple accounts in in athe ICO bounty campaigns.
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July 25, 2018, 04:49:42 AM |
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Warren Buffett doesn't believe in gold either, and that while gold has a proven track record of thousands of years. The thing with Buffett is that he likes to invest in things he can generate revenue from in form of dividends or interest. Bitcoin obviously doesn't produce anything in that way. In order to earn from crypto is to have a fundamentally strong POS coin with low annual inflation, but where are they? I haven't seen one single POS coin that maintained its value -- they all crashed hard and will keep crashing hard because they don't know shit. Ethereum plans to become somewhat of a POS coin, so we'll see how that goes....
Be greedy when others are afraid? when fearful of someone you do not care and do not imitate so that you do not lose everything and do not be greedy for all time because it does not help Seems some people here didn't understand what OP quoted. Well as far as I know he meant be a greedy when everyone is afraid because when everyone is selling in panic we can take this opportunity to buy more and let's be greedy and sell when everyone is afraid. This mentality should be follow within this community so we can all be well.
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So, Warren Buffet doesn't understand Bitcoin and because of it he doesn't invest in it, but at the same time he calls it "rat poison" and says that people will lose money. How does this make any sense, how can he make negative prediction if he doesn't understand it? It really makes him look stupid, and maybe in some 10 or 20 years he'll be remembered not as the greatest investor in history, but as the guy who dismissed Bitcoin when it was 100 times cheaper. It doesn't matter if the market is crazy and investors are noobs, in the end of the day Bitcoin's price will be determined by its fundamentals, and I think most of us here agree that they are strong.
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He is great to be the most respected person in the world, I just say that it is true then to be yourself, this world is so difficult it takes courage to be a very feared person and do not care about other people's conversation It is important that the business is as beautiful as now . Investments everywhere are very reasonable because at the age of 11 Warrent Buffett has bought his first share with a very young business, his hard work is very good, as his knowledge and maturity grow heavily by buying farms and other stocks.
In this world we need to take advantage of all things, as early as now we need to invest for the future, many people hesitating in terms of investing because of fear, we need to think that everything have a consequences, on my opinion when you are expert or have a knowledge about investing money dont hesitate to invest, You need to bet, dont lose the opportunity trust yourself to be a succesful in the end.
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