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July 26, 2018, 02:38:56 PM
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Yes, such things happen sometimes but we should understand that it is impossible to do if you have small amount of money so only "big traders" or funds can manipulate a market price. It is much easier to manipulate assets which are small capitalized and of course such a manipulation is very profitable but it is quite dangerous and it is possible that it is out of law
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July 26, 2018, 02:49:06 PM
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Sometimes many people try to manipulate the market and buy precious tokens cheap and selling high later.They intentionally cause fear and panic in the inexperienced members and take advantage to perpetrate their greed activities.


This is how cryptocurrencies incounter price decreasing because of some greedy people they want to manipulate  the price of crypto in the market. Most of them are the big whales who buy a big volume of coins in a very low price and then they it right away when they see the price starting to increase.
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July 26, 2018, 02:58:30 PM
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If you as an individual are led by greed when you go to trade, chances are you won't go far. However, I think you are right when you say that there is market manipulation. Market manipulation is usually done on an institutional level, taking advantage of the small investors. Whether or not you can call this greed, I don't know. The whales are simply doing business, and they just use the fact that the crypto markets are not regulated enough. So they get by with all sorts of shady things while making money.

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July 26, 2018, 03:23:55 PM
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It doesn't necessarily leads to that. People who doesn't have the means to move a market, no matter how greedy they are, they can't and won't be able to manipulate anything on that particular coin. If ever, greediness often leads to losses, as was evidenced by the previous bull run when everyone thought bitcoin's price would still climb higher than $19k. I've seen a lot of people hoarding loads of newly-created coins to hit the exchange only to be greeted by disappointment due to greediness.

While some speculate the manipulation of the market due to whales coming in, due to the increasing demand. Many other coins are being led to just a simple pump and dump coins where a lot of traders might feel that it is kinda unfair at times when they tend to wait for it to pump up even more higher. It has now yet becoming more unstable on how the market will go sometimes, maybe due to it being global and everyone could invest or buy any amount of coins they desire even if it causes rarity in the supply of the coin.

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July 26, 2018, 03:43:29 PM
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Exactly, this is what we are experiencing in today's cryptocurrencies investments. And it's so unfortunate that those who are capable enough with cash are those manipulating this market. Some of them stay close doors to put up a particular coin to pump and dump it and at the end, leave the coin to hang helplessly without the developers knowing what was done behind close doors.

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July 26, 2018, 03:48:49 PM
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And how else to earn, only playing on the feelings of people, in this case on fear all lose.
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July 26, 2018, 06:05:34 PM
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Sometimes many people try to manipulate the market and buy precious tokens cheap and selling high later.They intentionally cause fear and panic in the inexperienced members and take advantage to perpetrate their greed activities.
Those that have the power to manipulate the markets are going to use it, even if they do not want to use it they cannot avoid to manipulate the markets even if they wanted, if a group of rich people with tens of billions of dollars suddenly decided to invest in this market that will obviously make the price to go up, so they are manipulating the markets but no one complains when that happens because they earn money, but people with that kind of capital may decide to short bitcoin or to sell their coins and this will make the price to go down and that is when everyone complains.
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July 26, 2018, 06:27:26 PM
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Crypto industry is not much mature yet, most investors/traders are lacking knowledge and trade based on emotional decisions taken when the market is either booming up or doing down straight. Ultimately they lose money and the well informed investors grabs the oppprtunity to earn more from the mistakes of newbies.

So greediness can't do much to the market if you're a small scale investor but surely people would lose money if they keep trading based on sentiments and not on research and knowledge.
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July 26, 2018, 07:46:59 PM
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Sorry, but you are not going to change this reality. There will be always people causing the chaos to be benefited, especially on the financial market where speculation and unscrupulousness are a must. The point is that the risks are clear for all and if you don't agree, better to stay away.

It doesn't mean a common, innocent investor can't take advantage from this scenario. Invest money you can afford to lose, don't be greedy like the ones you criticize and withdraw your profits often to another investment, a solid one. This way you build your patrimony avoiding the risks and protecting yourself against manipulation.

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July 26, 2018, 08:01:41 PM
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Gordon Gekko said Greed is good!  

I do believe the emotions of greed does play a huge role in how the market works and evolves.  It's why trading is damn near impossible on a smaller time level because your dealing with thousands of emotions splattering against the market at any given second.
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July 26, 2018, 09:54:23 PM
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It is true that if the human feels greediness, like here in bitcoin activities , he want that he will always be the one benefitted, so this whales and sharks holders will find a way to manipulate the market.

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July 26, 2018, 11:01:47 PM
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If you as an individual are led by greed when you go to trade, chances are you won't go far. However, I think you are right when you say that there is market manipulation. Market manipulation is usually done on an institutional level, taking advantage of the small investors. Whether or not you can call this greed, I don't know. The whales are simply doing business, and they just use the fact that the crypto markets are not regulated enough. So they get by with all sorts of shady things while making money.

It is true that greediness will lead to market manipulation, because of the people who are not good in dealing with their funds, they have no mindset in giving the market an opportunity to have its thing.
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July 26, 2018, 11:13:50 PM
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Yeah that is one of the way to trick newbie to do panic sell, its often happen in the crypto world, but its only work for the newbie, for the experience traders and investors, we don't directly believe the news, we always check the truth before decide what we are going to do with our investment, spreading hoax news to cause panic sell indicates that people's greed know no boundaries

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July 26, 2018, 11:36:56 PM
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Gordon Gekko said Greed is good! 

I do believe the emotions of greed does play a huge role in how the market works and evolves.  It's why trading is damn near impossible on a smaller time level because your dealing with thousands of emotions splattering against the market at any given second.
I agree.Too many people here trade for their own benefits without even considering the right timing to trade.Greed is one of the factors that urges them to go on trading even when the market condition is not good,so as a result they tend to make less profits and even others end up failed.

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July 27, 2018, 01:54:46 AM
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This would only takes effect to the large business investor of bitcoin ,because they have the power to manipulate the market for they have the large capital, that is why if this big investors will be greedy ,they can truly manipulate the market price value.
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July 27, 2018, 04:59:03 AM
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Fake new also contribute to market manipulation, it is used by whales who are hoping to buy cheap coin to earlier people learn and could resist the news the better fot individual and crypto community at large.

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July 27, 2018, 05:10:22 AM
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Its human nature though, the businesses in the world are going to be like a cartel, hoarding and wants to corner the market for their own. But since this is decentralized and there are more tokens readily available there certainly isn't so much to manipulate unless they concentrate on a particular coin which they do with BTC. 

Fake new also contribute to market manipulation, it is used by whales who are hoping to buy cheap coin to earlier people learn and could resist the news the better fot individual and crypto community at large.

Nothing new to news manipulation, the media world wide had been doing it since time.

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July 27, 2018, 05:24:11 AM
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Isn't this what happens when something is available to be bought and sold? We all have a natural desire to buy low and sell high. I wouldn't call it market manipulation unless it's a whole bunch of people with extremely deep pockets (like banks, for example) getting together and dumping the coin all at once to make the price go down.

But buying and selling to turn a profit is what everything is being used for nowadays. Bitcoin is not practical enough to be used as a currency (yet) so in the meantime takes the shape of an investment vehicle. It's listed as a commodity because it is being treated that way by investors. Finite supply, fixed price, etc.
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July 27, 2018, 05:54:24 AM
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Because there are greedy people in the market, the price of the market will fluctuate greatly. Greed will make people earn a lot of money and make them lose a lot of money.

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July 27, 2018, 06:02:15 AM
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I think so. Too much greediness always bring disaster to our society. so we have to control our greediness to save us from many unwanted activities. it's true that some greedy people are mainly responsible for market manipulation.
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