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July 25, 2018, 03:34:57 PM
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While infrastructure and technology keeps advancing, our natural resources suffer. Sure there are people who tries to save our planet by diving into the water and collecting trash, or encouraging anyone to recycle or stop using plastic. But is it enough? If it is, then why are we still experiencing climate change? Could this be the start of the destruction of our planet?
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July 25, 2018, 03:40:03 PM
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The planet doesn't need saving.  It's a rock that's been here long before plastic and will be here long after all the plastic is degraded into dust.  And through out the earth's entire existence the climate has been changing.  Stop the HUMAN ego trip.  You aren't that important, on a geological scale of time.
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July 25, 2018, 05:16:19 PM
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What you really mean is ' Can we save the human population'. As has been mentioned, nature will compensate for any changes that occur, but that may be detrimental to the human race. So to answer the spirit of the question, we are doing the wrong things. For example, the politicians are pushing the idea of electric cars to give them increased control over motorists, but electric cars just export pollution, they don't decrease it.  Innovations like the opposed piston diesel engine are far more constructive. Click here to view the video

Another useful idea is to stop chopping down trees to feed electricity generation plants.
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July 25, 2018, 06:47:22 PM
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Stop fucking for 10 or 20 years. Population will reduce to manageable levels.

Other option warp drive build it and find some empty planets.

Last option terraform mars.


We all know number one is not happening.
Number two will not happen unless we are visited by aliens and they lay all the cards on the table.
Number three will happen but most likely only save a small percent of people when a crash happens here on earth
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July 25, 2018, 07:00:46 PM
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While infrastructure and technology keeps advancing, our natural resources suffer. Sure there are people who tries to save our planet by diving into the water and collecting trash, or encouraging anyone to recycle or stop using plastic. But is it enough? If it is, then why are we still experiencing climate change? Could this be the start of the destruction of our planet?

For every one person that is working to save the planet, there are one million who don't give a damn, or think their god will intervene...  :/
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July 25, 2018, 07:49:23 PM
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July 26, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
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The planet doesn't need saving.  It's a rock that's been here long before plastic and will be here long after all the plastic is degraded into dust.  And through out the earth's entire existence the climate has been changing.  Stop the HUMAN ego trip.  You aren't that important, on a geological scale of time.

Earth is indeed a rock, but it is our duty to protect it and respect it. Also, it is not just the use of plastic that is harming the planet, its a lot of things. Do you mean that this does not concern you at all?
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July 26, 2018, 02:30:25 PM
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What you really mean is ' Can we save the human population'. As has been mentioned, nature will compensate for any changes that occur, but that may be detrimental to the human race. So to answer the spirit of the question, we are doing the wrong things. For example, the politicians are pushing the idea of electric cars to give them increased control over motorists, but electric cars just export pollution, they don't decrease it.  Innovations like the opposed piston diesel engine are far more constructive. Click here to view the video

Another useful idea is to stop chopping down trees to feed electricity generation plants.

Can we save the human population? I dont think so, but you are right. We are doing things wrong. Despite the technology rising and advancing, its the environment that suffers. Sadly, some of us are in denial about whatever is happening.
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July 26, 2018, 02:35:56 PM
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For every one person that is working to save the planet, there are one million who don't give a damn, or think their god will intervene...  :/

Exactly. Like I said, it is sad that a lot of people just do not care about what is going on right now. Climate change, all of those things. It is real and we are responsible for the earth's deterioration but not many of us care to do something about it.
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July 26, 2018, 03:28:30 PM
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The planet doesn't need saving.  It's a rock that's been here long before plastic and will be here long after all the plastic is degraded into dust.  And through out the earth's entire existence the climate has been changing.  Stop the HUMAN ego trip.  You aren't that important, on a geological scale of time.

Earth is indeed a rock, but it is our duty to protect it and respect it. Also, it is not just the use of plastic that is harming the planet, its a lot of things. Do you mean that this does not concern you at all?

Quite the contrary, I care very much.  I'm fond of our planet, its natural beauty, the woods, the jungles, and all if its animals.  I want very much to preserve the quality life we enjoy.  I reuse, recycle, compost, plant trees, grow vegetables, and I just purchase a solar panel system to install on my roof.

But semantics matter.  We don't get to save the planet anymore than we get to destroy it. We can boil the ocean, fill the atmosphere with CO2, we may all suffocate and die, we may obliterate all vegetation, but the planet will still be here, and it's climate will continue to change.
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July 26, 2018, 06:32:54 PM
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It is really hard for "us" to save the planet, the real ones damaging it are big corporations destroying it, yes we can help the case by not using plastic and what not, but the change must come from above.
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July 26, 2018, 06:57:12 PM
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I we were to take it literally, then the planet does not need saving-- we're just like fleas living in a large organism. But as I believe that you mean saving the planet's organic nature and environment, then no, no we are not. It's quite sad that while there are lots of people who are doing their parts to save the environment, there are like a million more that either damage the environment more or just don't care.

However, even then, we should not stop trying to save the Earth. There is no planet B (for now at least), and id we want to survive as a species, we should start protecting the environment more.
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July 26, 2018, 09:25:02 PM
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Some people are doing a lot. More than enough for one person, but the vast majority of people are not going to care about the effects that we have on the planet. They rather watch tv, relax and play their video games on the Here Now. (Little play on my name.) Can't really blame many because they're just so distracted by their life struggles.
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July 27, 2018, 02:36:52 AM
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Education would help a lot. Maybe more cartoons like Captain Planet.
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July 27, 2018, 02:52:20 AM
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I remember a few years ago being in a political forum, and one of the topics was a discussion about a yearly event where people are encouraged to save on electricity for that one day, to reduce and make more people aware of pollution. Something to that effect.

The majority of the people there were really annoyed by the concept, and in retaliation they were purposefully going to run all their lights, TVs, and appliances that wastes the most electricity as possible.

So what does that tell you?
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July 27, 2018, 06:56:33 PM
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Stop fucking for 10 or 20 years. Population will reduce to manageable levels.

Other option warp drive build it and find some empty planets.

Last option terraform mars.


We all know number one is not happening.
Number two will not happen unless we are visited by aliens and they lay all the cards on the table.
Number three will happen but most likely only save a small percent of people when a crash happens here on earth
First one; contraception plus sex education, but it will be hard. A large percentage of human population still consult with their religious law. Solution? Genocide.

Last one is impossible. The gravity on mars is not suitable for humans. Venus is a better option.

"In the long term, permanent settlements could be made in the form of cities designed to float at about fifty kilometer altitude in the atmosphere of Venus. The advantages of the Venus atmosphere over other proposed space settlement locations includes an abundance of atmospheric volatiles, sufficient for life support, benign temperature and pressure, shielding from cosmic and solar-flare radiation, plentiful solar energy, and nearby access to the rocky (silicate) surface materials."

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We don't get to save the planet anymore than we get to destroy it. We can boil the ocean, fill the atmosphere with CO2, we may all suffocate and die, we may obliterate all vegetation, but the planet will still be here, and it's climate will continue to change.
A good example - https://youtu.be/Wy7Q6wazD_E
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July 28, 2018, 02:03:45 PM
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There are plenty organizations that are very much committed in helping environmental issues, most of them study about the threats, but if most of the peoole are not doing the same things, it will probably affect nothing in restoring our environment, we shoul be doing something in our little own ways which will result as a domino effect that in the long run will help sustain our resources for the future generations to still see the true beauty of our world.
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July 28, 2018, 03:10:26 PM
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I remember a few years ago being in a political forum, and one of the topics was a discussion about a yearly event where people are encouraged to save on electricity for that one day, to reduce and make more people aware of pollution. Something to that effect.

The majority of the people there were really annoyed by the concept, and in retaliation they were purposefully going to run all their lights, TVs, and appliances that wastes the most electricity as possible.

So what does that tell you?

The point I was trying to make to the OP is that semantics matter.  We get way to much hyperbole in our news and media today.  Every body is a "chicken little."  The end is nigh.  The funniest thing, the OP sounded off in the thread I started about Mars, stating his fear that we'll destroy that planet too...  What the Fuck is there to destroy on mars?  The atmosphere is already full of CO2, there are no oceans, plants, animals...

It's the mob mentality.  Some one hears a word used to describe something he's unhappy with, and the brain dead lemmings repeat it until it becomes "truth."

I am a conservationist.  I love nature.  I hunt, back-pack, and mountain bike for fun.  I compost everything I can for my home garden.  I try hard to conserve electricity.  I do as much as I possibly can to preserve the environment.  But when people get on their "We're destroying the Plant" hype I just cringe.  That's only going to hurt conservation efforts if you cannot separate the rational from the emotional.
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July 30, 2018, 06:30:29 AM
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While infrastructure and technology keeps advancing, our natural resources suffer. Sure there are people who tries to save our planet by diving into the water and collecting trash, or encouraging anyone to recycle or stop using plastic. But is it enough? If it is, then why are we still experiencing climate change? Could this be the start of the destruction of our planet?
Some of them are not even thinking that there is "climate change" and meanwhile some of them are thinking "earth is flat". yeah, the world is on a path to destruction through human activity causing "Rapid Resource Depletion" and "Heavy Environmental Pollution" which has exceeded Earth's threshold capacity.
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July 30, 2018, 05:19:22 PM
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The planet doesn't need saving.  It's a rock that's been here long before plastic and will be here long after all the plastic is degraded into dust.  And through out the earth's entire existence the climate has been changing.  Stop the HUMAN ego trip.  You aren't that important, on a geological scale of time.

I happen to disagree with this. But I think many people like to blame people that aren't harming the world because they know themselves are the ones responsible... I think we can treat the world better, but there needs to be some coherent strategy that everyone agrees on.
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