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July 25, 2018, 04:39:43 PM
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I have been writing meaningful and good quality posts since start of my journey on bitcointalk forum, but i have noticed that i have still not received appropriate number of merits. whereas some people are receiving merits for posting useless and meaningless posts because they have high position in the forum. According to me merit system is a bit partial and changes must be made to it. Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts. Please let me know your views below. No hard feelings for anyone  Smiley

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July 25, 2018, 04:50:25 PM
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Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts.
Devs?  You sound like the type of person who labels anyone who's high-ranked or has a position of authority on bitcointalk as a "dev".  I don't get this.

You got 1 merit since January, which is more than a lot of shitposters have gotten.  It's a start.  Most of the posts I could view in your profile were in the Speculation section, which isn't exactly a hotbed of merit-giving activity.  Plus you seem to have a problem with capitalization of words, which doesn't go unnoticed.  You might think that you can write posts on bitcointalk as if you were texting someone, but don't expect any merits if you do that. 

What you need to do is be patient and improve your post quality.  You might think you haven't earned enough merits, but the community is obviously not seeing it your way.  Don't make posts in spam mega threads and you might have a shot at earning more merits.  You're not likely to garner much sympathy here anyway, since people who bitch about not getting merits tend to be those obsessed with ranking up and earning more money via spam campaigns.  That's almost invariably what it ends up being about.

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July 25, 2018, 05:01:45 PM
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Should merit system really exist? Basically no, but a solution to all the shits posts was really necessary. If there is someone to blame it's the members who abused the forum I would say. If the whole Bitcointalk community was behaving correctly then the system wouldn't be here.

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July 25, 2018, 05:03:07 PM
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Your posts aren't anything special, though they're certainly better than your standard one/two line shitposter the forum is plagued with, but they still all roughly follow the same pattern of a few sentences and don't really stand out which helps. Try actually take part in a discussion that's not just the standard dime a dozen sort of threads that get posted here. If you offer an original opinion that has clearly had some thought put into it then it doesn't seem that difficult to get merit from people.

Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts. Please let me know your views below. No hard feelings for anyone  Smiley

This would make it 1000 times worse. Admins/devs are barely active here so the chances of you getting merit would be even slimmer.

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July 25, 2018, 05:31:30 PM
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Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts.
Devs?  You sound like the type of person who labels anyone who's high-ranked or has a position of authority on bitcointalk as a "dev".  I don't get this.

You got 1 merit since January, which is more than a lot of shitposters have gotten.  It's a start.  Most of the posts I could view in your profile were in the Speculation section, which isn't exactly a hotbed of merit-giving activity.  Plus you seem to have a problem with capitalization of words, which doesn't go unnoticed.  You might think that you can write posts on bitcointalk as if you were texting someone, but don't expect any merits if you do that. 

What you need to do is be patient and improve your post quality.  You might think you haven't earned enough merits, but the community is obviously not seeing it your way.  Don't make posts in spam mega threads and you might have a shot at earning more merits.  You're not likely to garner much sympathy here anyway, since people who bitch about not getting merits tend to be those obsessed with ranking up and earning more money via spam campaigns.  That's almost invariably what it ends up being about.

Thanks for your views. i will surely take your advice into consideration and improve my weak points.

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When I see posts like this, it puts me off giving you any merits. I think this is against the spirit of Bitcoin Talk,and it is part of the crrent spam problem. Also I noticed that you posted that people should never sell at a loss. without knowing the financial state of an investor, and his motivation, it is unwise to give advice like this.

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July 25, 2018, 06:17:50 PM
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Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts.
What made you think that a few admins is better than 83 merit sources as right now that is giving at max of 19,100 sMerits per 30 days? If you are obviously thinking we have more merit sources than the admins and mods combined. So I know 19,100 at first do not look a lot but everytime a member sends 1 sMerit half of that will be received by you as a sendable sMerit. So do not mind that your posts are not receiving any merits instead concentrate more on improving your post by actually reading other posts in that thread and contributing something new.
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Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts.
Devs?  You sound like the type of person who labels anyone who's high-ranked or has a position of authority on bitcointalk as a "dev".  I don't get this.
That is how some twitbook hunters calls their bounty manager. I think it stand for developer or they have another meaning for it. I found some in ANN threads and bounties when I was reporting lately and I also used to call bounty managers "dev" before when I was a noob spammer Smiley

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July 25, 2018, 07:06:55 PM
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I have been writing meaningful and good quality posts since start of my journey on bitcointalk forum, but i have noticed that i have still not received appropriate number of merits. whereas some people are receiving merits for posting useless and meaningless posts because they have high position in the forum. According to me merit system is a bit partial and changes must be made to it. Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts. Please let me know your views below. No hard feelings for anyone  Smiley

I can categorize post in three category :
1. Shit /spam post
2. Average (may be some below or some above average post)
3. Good post.

What ever the objective of this system , but it acted as a silent killer for average poster (category 2).

I just did the quick glance and might be you also fall in Category 2.

PS : Don't worry, be happy and continue what is close to your heart or you are good at. Don't try to fake yourself so that you can get some merits but do not break forum rules.

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Should merit system really exist? Basically no, but a solution to all the shits posts was really necessary. If there is someone to blame it's the members who abused the forum I would say. If the whole Bitcointalk community was behaving correctly then the system wouldn't be here.


I love this system this made the spam stopped from this forum when comparing before Jan 25th 2018. Before that we may see the more application on campaign side and various trashcanned topics buddy.
Then I see many people on this forum especially on the top rank and DT side many merits seems receiving for their shit posts. Hopefully those DT members will not love it to have those merits.
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Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts.
Devs?  You sound like the type of person who labels anyone who's high-ranked or has a position of authority on bitcointalk as a "dev".  I don't get this.
That is how some twitbook hunters calls their bounty manager. I think it stand for developer or they have another meaning for it. I found some in ANN threads and bounties when I was reporting lately and I also used to call bounty managers "dev" before when I was a noob spammer Smiley
If that is what he meant by "devs" then we might see low ranking spammers become Sr. Members and above in no time. If we gave these bounty managers that don't care about spammers that power then we will see a flaw in the merit system. For one they are just bounty campaign managers they are not automatically qualify as a merit source, unlike the merit sources we have now which most go through the process of application just to be one.
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No I don't believe so.  It is too easy for friends and family to switch to each other different merit, therefore giving them an advantage.
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NO, the merit system not  should really exist here. The eco-system of merit is handling a lot of spam in here true ? I think no ,  even if there is merit system spam post are as much as even if there would not be merit system. as we know until jr. member no merit is required and for spam camp we just need jr. member. does this make sense ? and every member here is doing bounties and all.
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July 25, 2018, 08:58:51 PM
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I have been writing meaningful and good quality posts since start of my journey on bitcointalk forum, but i have noticed that i have still not received appropriate number of merits. whereas some people are receiving merits for posting useless and meaningless posts because they have high position in the forum. According to me merit system is a bit partial and changes must be made to it. Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts. Please let me know your views below. No hard feelings for anyone  Smiley

I am not sure what changes are you suggesting. Currently most of the merits come from merit sources and they are selected and monitored ( I assume ) by the admin . So the control is already with the most trusted members here.
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I have noticed since the merit system of many members who complain about the difficulty of upgrading, getting merit is not easy because merit that we can give to others is limited. so the merit that can be obtained is also difficult. but on the other hand, the merit system also has its positive side. where spam account can no longer operate. Smiley
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NO, the merit system not  should really exist here. The eco-system of merit is handling a lot of spam in here true ? I think no ,  even if there is merit system spam post are as much as even if there would not be merit system. as we know until jr. member no merit is required and for spam camp we just need jr. member. does this make sense ? and every member here is doing bounties and all.
It is hard to get a merit even if you have a meaningful or Good quality in posting. They want a famous to give merit.
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July 26, 2018, 06:44:32 AM
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It is difficult to get merits. It's intended to be difficult. Everything working fine. You have to live with it or leave this forum. Your choice...

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July 26, 2018, 07:12:38 AM
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It is difficult to get merits. It's intended to be difficult. Everything working fine. You have to live with it or leave this forum. Your choice...

It's not that difficult bro.You should pay attention to your post quality and contribute to forum.And don't think about merit too much, just enjoy the forum.Good luck             
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July 26, 2018, 07:40:06 AM
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Following hilarious' comment that your posts are not absolute garbage, you are right, merits are generally given out based on the underlying content, not the effort put into one's post. The unfortunate reality is that people generally will give out merit (with many exceptions) to posts they are in agreement with, and will withhold merit on posts they disagree with.

It is my belief that there should be incentives to make posts, and disincentives to make shit/spam posts, and to remove the current incentives that currently exist to make shit/spam posts.

edit: I reviewed your posts, and I gave you sufficient merit to rank up to "member" status.
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