BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan

[el kaka22]

I think it wouldn't really matter even if you have the documents and addresses and all the legal stuff because the reality is that most countries do not have right protective laws for the token investors. Now, if you can convince a judge that this is an investment like any other investment then it is an easy case, open and shut, you win.

However, if you can't convince them that token purchasing is an investment like any other share buying then you will have hard time convincing anyone including a judge that this guy is a scammer, even if he is then the judge would just say "you lost some play money to him" or something like that. Some courts still consider bitcoin not proper currency let alone tokens, so it might as well be you buying world of warcraft money from someone to them.

[JollyGood]

I think it wouldn't really matter even if you have the documents and addresses and all the legal stuff because the reality is that most countries do not have right protective laws for the token investors. Now, if you can convince a judge that this is an investment like any other investment then it is an easy case, open and shut, you win.

However, if you can't convince them that token purchasing is an investment like any other share buying then you will have hard time convincing anyone including a judge that this guy is a scammer, even if he is then the judge would just say "you lost some play money to him" or something like that. Some courts still consider bitcoin not proper currency let alone tokens, so it might as well be you buying world of warcraft money from someone to them.

Thank you for your post.

In the UK if you give money as a investment and the individual or company you invest in turns out to be a scam - there are criminal consequences especially if correct legal protocol was not followed. In this case, betking was operated by serial scammer Dean Nolan without the protection of a company when he scammed the final bankroll funds of 50+ BTC. It means under UK law he personally is liable as the law makes no distinction between betking.io and serial scammer Dean Nolan - they are effectively one and the same as far as the law is concerned.

The only thing could have dragged out his protection for a few months more would have been "BetKing S.R.L. Costa Rica Registration Number 3-102-744110" but that was dead a long time ago because he did not want to pay the fees to stay registered off-shore and ran a casino illegally under his own name.

He is liable, eventually at least one investor will step forward and will want to make a Police complaint and that will be the beginning of the process that leads serial scammer Dean Nolan to a jail cell on multiple fraud convictions. 

[el kaka22]

^^ I really think that is all depending on the judge and making people believe "funding" and "investment" is viable for bitcoin investments. People forget that this is not fiat, so in the end if you give someone bitcoin as an investment and expect dividends or basically profits then you are doing exactly the same thing that fiat investors do but your country may not accept bitcoin as real money and your investment as real investment so not give that person a real punishment.

Hence, why I am saying that (which could be not true for UK) that we need to see an example first, if we could have one example decision that bitcoin investors were scammed and the scammer got punished then we can get tons of people who will follow that and sue people that scammed them.

[TwitchySeal]

In any case, i'm willing to donate money as well.

Unless you want to get scammed for more, don't even consider working with Game-Protect.  "Give me some money and I'll recover the money you've been scammed for" is his thing.  He's only here in hopes of finding one of Betkings victims to scam.

I have contact to an UK lawyer specialized on internet crimes like the BetKing scam.

Can we make a list of the damage caused?

I won't derail this thread any more and just leave it at that for now.

[JollyGood]

@ camtheman

@ BillyBurms

Can you please tell us what serial scammer Dean Nolan claims he is doing now?

Please will you consider reporting this matter to the Police? It is the only chance you have of getting your funds back after the Courts seize his assets and sell them off to pay you back what he stole from you

[camtheman]

@ camtheman

@ BillyBurms

Can you please tell us what serial scammer Dean Nolan claims he is doing now?

Please will you consider reporting this matter to the Police? It is the only chance you have of getting your funds back after the Courts seize his assets and sell them off to pay you back what he stole from you

He said in the email he was gonna raise the money through some new project. I really don't know the details of it. Probably not even a real thing.

[LoyceV]

He said in the email he was gonna raise the money through some new project.

(source)

[JollyGood]

@ camtheman

@ BillyBurms

Can you please tell us what serial scammer Dean Nolan claims he is doing now?

Please will you consider reporting this matter to the Police? It is the only chance you have of getting your funds back after the Courts seize his assets and sell them off to pay you back what he stole from you

He said in the email he was gonna raise the money through some new project. I really don't know the details of it. Probably not even a real thing.

Please be sure, his next project is very real but he needs to be reported to the police before it can get off the ground.

If just one investor reporting him will put the police spotlight on him and he will not start his next project.

His next project will be a version of his Bitsafe project. He intended to raise $10 million from it in November 2018 but failed.

The script is complete, the exchange is complete, the software is ready - he used funds from betking to complete all that so he does not need an ICO but he wants to pocket the cash like he did with the betking ICO. Are you sure he will pay you? I know he will not.

The person that claimed a theft took place on his secure server is the same person that promises to pay you after you allow him time to start a new scam?

A simple question, please ask him for the following: what is the "Crime Reference Number" the UK police gave him  when he reported the alleged theft of over $400,000 in Bitcoin...

I mean, he is living in the UK so he did report it to the UK police right? If he did not report it, did you ever ask yourself why he did not report it? And if he did report it, what is the Crime Reference Number?

Here is my view, I guarantee you that he did not report it to the police.

He needs to be reported to the police. I will help do all the work but I need just one of the 20 remaining investors to forget the lies serial scammer Dean Nolan is spinning and instead report him to the police so he can be stopped before he scams a new set of investors out of millions.

[JollyGood]

I updated the OP of the betking Legal Action thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5047787

[JollyGood]

Due to a recent hack https://betking.io has now closed.

We are working to recover funds and return balances and bankroll investments back to users asap.

We aim to have all balances returned to users by the end of January 2020.

All users with significant balances have been contacted by email or Telegram. If you have not received an email and had BTC, ETH, EOS or LTC on the site please email support@betking.io.

We are looking at ways to buy back all BKB and BKT starting from Jan 2020 with the goal of buying all tokens by the end of 2020. Token holders will be contacted and updated of progress in Jan 2020.

We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

Where is the crime reference number the Police would have given him?

Why did he not report the alleged crime to the Police?

[LoyceV]

Because of the huge red banner warning that BetKing.io "might" be a scammer, I totally overlooked the fact that Dean's new topic is self-moderated.

So here's my deleted post:

you actively tried to stop investors from recovering or making any profit from betking in the first place.

Lol. Spoken like any other scammer.
This topic - supported by many community members - shows how much your promises are worth: [FLAGGED] [scam] BetKing.io broke ICO promise and dropped token value 99%.

I won't be discussing any details at all of where or how in this forum

How convenient

The return/ withdrawal of my remaining balance was very well handled by Dean in just a couple of emails back and forth.

And you just happened to stop by here to post this. It's not as if Dean hasn't been accused of using sockpuppets before

Right after it was deleted, another Newbie sockpuppet posted in the topic.

[JollyGood]

I left negative trust for all 3 sock-puppet scammer accounts posting there. I mean, they all seem so happy to have been scammed  

Anyway, serial scammer imbecile Dean Nolan owner of betking deleted my post too in his new self-moderated thread.

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

Due to a recent hack https://betking.io has now closed.

We are working to recover funds and return balances and bankroll investments back to users asap.

We aim to have all balances returned to users by the end of January 2020.

All users with significant balances have been contacted by email or Telegram. If you have not received an email and had BTC, ETH, EOS or LTC on the site please email support@betking.io.

We are looking at ways to buy back all BKB and BKT starting from Jan 2020 with the goal of buying all tokens by the end of 2020. Token holders will be contacted and updated of progress in Jan 2020.

We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

Which country was the crime reported in?

It should have been reported to the Police in the UK so what is the crime reference number?

[BetKing.io]

I left negative trust for all 3 sock-puppet scammer accounts posting there. I mean, they all seem so happy to have been scammed  

So if 50-100 people post about them getting their funds and 0 post about not getting them are you going to tag every single one of them as an alt of me (even though you can clearly see they are not mine)?

[JollyGood]

I left negative trust for all 3 sock-puppet scammer accounts posting there. I mean, they all seem so happy to have been scammed  

So if 50-100 people post about them getting their funds and 0 post about not getting them are you going to tag every single one of them as an alt of me (even though you can clearly see they are not mine)?

In which country did you report the alleged crime to the Police?

[BetKing.io]

So if 50-100 people post about them getting their funds and 0 post about not getting them are you going to tag every single one of them as an alt of me (even though you can clearly see they are not mine)?

I think the thing that gives away that they're shill accounts, is they have no post history 

Still posting shit after me messaging you I see?
Get a mod to confirm if it's me or not. I mean it makes no difference to me but as usual your little crew just make the forum worse for other people. You can check the post history of those accounts. 2 have history and all 3 of them clearly aren't me.

You still got absolutely nothing better to do with your time yet than sit on here?

[JollyGood]

So if 50-100 people post about them getting their funds and 0 post about not getting them are you going to tag every single one of them as an alt of me (even though you can clearly see they are not mine)?

I think the thing that gives away that they're shill accounts, is they have no post history. Even if you create 50 to 100 accounts of people saying they got their money, it's still not going to look legitimate. But if we see some established members (even just like that billy guy), it might look a bit different

Well sadly for BillyBurns he will not be seeing his $30,000 ever again.

The poor man suffered from internet version of Stockholm syndrome. He was duped by serial scammer Dean Nolan and then allowed him to carry on pulling the wool over his eyes

I wonder where things went wrong. He had such a good website back in the day and I'm really grateful for that. He always was a little miscalibrated but intentions were good. Then something just plummeted off of the deep end during the bear market I guess. GG

He went broke trading alt coins, according to him he was tired of alt coiners making more gains than him so he started trading and he got liquidated for everything, this is not a lie I was told to keep hush but I ain't letting this dude get away with another scam, my 30k is long gone. Now the interesting thing  is to speculate is if he used ico funds to gamble on is bitmmex acc or otc trades. Fromm y point of view since the inception of Ico it seems he is doing everything in his power for it to fail.

@BillyBurns I can help you get your money back. Please consider my request to help you file a complaint to the Police in the UK. The thief serial scammer Dean Nolan will hopefully go to prison and you all will have more chance of getting your funds back rather than waiting and allowing him time to move those stolen funds around.

[LoyceV]

all 3 of them clearly aren't me.

Of course, those Newbies just happened to be waiting for months until you make a self-moderated topic, just so they can tell you what a great guy you are.
I also believe in the Tooth fairy.

[JollyGood]

all 3 of them clearly aren't me.

Of course, those Newbies just happened to be waiting for months until you make a self-moderated topic, just so they can tell you what a great guy you are.
I also believe in the Tooth fairy.

  Tooth Fairy

Anyway, clearly all 3 of those sock-puppet accounts are clearly him

[carlfebz2]

all 3 of them clearly aren't me.

Of course, those Newbies just happened to be waiting for months until you make a self-moderated topic, just so they can tell you what a great guy you are.
I also believe in the Tooth fairy.

  Tooth Fairy

Anyway, clearly all 3 of those sock-puppet accounts are clearly him

When i do read up that new thread of Betking buyback/hacking event and been followed up by those newbie accounts telling some positive inputs which make it more obvious.  

[TwitchySeal]

I left negative trust for all 3 sock-puppet scammer accounts posting there. I mean, they all seem so happy to have been scammed  

So if 50-100 people post about them getting their funds and 0 post about not getting them are you going to tag every single one of them as an alt of me (even though you can clearly see they are not mine)?

If all 50-100 were newbies with 0 or almost 0 post history, probably.

If many of the 50-100 were users with a history on the forum, I don't think it would be fair to tag them all.

You can check the post history of those accounts. 2 have history

One of their history consists of a single post in 2017 in a Betking thread.

all 3 of them clearly aren't me.

Are any of them you?