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July 29, 2018, 10:26:54 AM
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I've been watching some poker tournaments with Antonius, Negreanu and Cates lately. Most of the time the person with better combination actually wins, but there occur some great bluffs from time to time as well. Do you think it is better to fold if you don't have at least one high card in a pair or two cards of the same suit? Is it worth to try out overbetting tricks when you really have shitty cards? When I tried playing poker, overbetting usually made me fold, because it is a hard psychological attack for me and I am not the kind of a person that is willing to risk a lot. But I am bad at poker. What is your opinion on this matter?

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July 29, 2018, 11:27:04 AM
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I've been watching some poker tournaments with Antonius, Negreanu and Cates lately. Most of the time the person with better combination actually wins, but there occur some great bluffs from time to time as well. Do you think it is better to fold if you don't have at least one high card in a pair or two cards of the same suit? Is it worth to try out overbetting tricks when you really have shitty cards? When I tried playing poker, overbetting usually made me fold, because it is a hard psychological attack for me and I am not the kind of a person that is willing to risk a lot. But I am bad at poker. What is your opinion on this matter?

Poker is a game with Bluffs and good cards to but each person needs to understand what's good for him and what's not, you may be good at playing with good combinations but equally be bad at bluffing, pokers pros can spot a fake bluff miles away and bluffing with them will only make you loose money, the art of bluffing comes with experience and should be avoided by newbies, they should trust their cards.
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July 29, 2018, 11:46:37 AM
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I love playing Zynga poker in facebook and I spend relatively a big amount of time in my office doing so , I am an IT so I am only called to duty when some problems arises, in my free time I read about new technologies and play Zynga poker.

I can say that when I play sit and go the best to do is to wait and always to play with good cards. People will get nervous with the passing of time, they will bluff when they shouldn't and they will be eliminated in no time. This will improve your chances to win the tournament. The same can be applied to any table playing Texas Holdem.

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July 29, 2018, 12:14:44 PM
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I don't usually play poker but I do know how to play and I am seeing great players play poker and get some good techniques from them how to the cards at hand. With this two options, I can't say that one of them is great than the other since these two options can be used at the same time. Since most players that is usually bluffing has a lower card at hand to pressure their opponents maybe verbally or using some facial expressions if you can play these two, the players will be confused on how you really play the cards. They will not know if you have a great card or just bluffing because you have a lower cards, It can be your great weapon.

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July 29, 2018, 12:32:08 PM
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I'm not also good in poker but this is situational. If you are starting and you still have bankroll to gamble with, it's okay to fold if your cards aren't so good.

But if you are decided and you only have few left on your bankroll, it's okay to do YOLO. I mean that you can pursue even if your card isn't so good or if you don't have choice, you have last money and your card isn't so good that's the best time to bluff.

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July 29, 2018, 12:43:53 PM
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I've been watching some poker tournaments with Antonius, Negreanu and Cates lately. Most of the time the person with better combination actually wins, but there occur some great bluffs from time to time as well. Do you think it is better to fold if you don't have at least one high card in a pair or two cards of the same suit? Is it worth to try out overbetting tricks when you really have shitty cards? When I tried playing poker, overbetting usually made me fold, because it is a hard psychological attack for me and I am not the kind of a person that is willing to risk a lot. But I am bad at poker. What is your opinion on this matter?
In poker, you should have no predictable behavior. You have to establish to your opponents that you do bluffing so when you have really good cards and you raised high, your opponents will think that you're just bluffing and that you probably don't have good cards. Poker is basically just knowing how much to bet, when to bet high, when to bluff, and when to fold. You can have really shitty cards and still be able to win by bluffing and making everyone fold. Poker is really skill-based. What are you going to do with your cards, that's what it's all about. You will never always get full house combination or flush or straight cards.

If you're only going to play with good cards, you will end up always folding. So by the time you raised, they will know that you have good cards. Thus, they will fold and you will only get what's in the pot. You have to be able to confuse or trick your opponents so you can make the most from your cards.

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July 29, 2018, 01:33:04 PM
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In poker, you should have no predictable behavior.

Exactly. Bluffing too much or too little becomes predictable - then everyone around the table knows how you play and will (if they aren't newbies) react accordingly to put you at a disadvantage. Change things up to keep your opponents guessing.
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July 29, 2018, 02:15:03 PM
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Which one is better? It depends on yourself and depends on the situation on the table when you are playing it. Bluffing does work if you know how and when to use it. It will be bad if you do both strategy continuously as it will be easy for your opponent to predict what you do. Be variable when you are playing poker, makes your opponent hard to read what you have.

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July 29, 2018, 02:47:36 PM
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In my own personal opinion, i think in poker its more better in bluffing other players than having a good cards because  you don't need any good cards if you had make your opponents cards fold and it will make the game more exciting or will give more thrill.
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July 29, 2018, 04:56:40 PM
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I've been watching some poker tournaments with Antonius, Negreanu and Cates lately. Most of the time the person with better combination actually wins, but there occur some great bluffs from time to time as well. Do you think it is better to fold if you don't have at least one high card in a pair or two cards of the same suit? Is it worth to try out overbetting tricks when you really have shitty cards? When I tried playing poker, overbetting usually made me fold, because it is a hard psychological attack for me and I am not the kind of a person that is willing to risk a lot. But I am bad at poker. What is your opinion on this matter?
Bluff doesn't necessarily need to be an overbet. It may be 30-40% of the pot when you are trying to make some some part of his range to fold for example 2nd, 3rd pair and you have air. And when you get called by Top Pair and better you shouldn't think, bluff doesn't work because you haven't targeted to fold that good hands on the first place.
Overbets are usually used when you have air(bluff) or nuts(the best hand possible) - it should be done with certain frequencies though - you can't 100% overbet when you have bluff, or only overbet when you have strong hand, because players will figure you out fast.
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Poker is strategy type of gambling so bluffing and having good card become the advantage for winning the game.
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I've been watching some poker tournaments with Antonius, Negreanu and Cates lately. Most of the time the person with better combination actually wins, but there occur some great bluffs from time to time as well. Do you think it is better to fold if you don't have at least one high card in a pair or two cards of the same suit? Is it worth to try out overbetting tricks when you really have shitty cards? When I tried playing poker, overbetting usually made me fold, because it is a hard psychological attack for me and I am not the kind of a person that is willing to risk a lot. But I am bad at poker. What is your opinion on this matter?
Both are necessary, you cannot become a successful player in poker without bluffing, this is very important especially when you are in the latest positions like the button, if no one has raised it is almost mandatory to raise even if you have one of the worst hands since you could win the hand without even reaching the flop, personally I prefer to be a solid player playing mostly strong hands, but you need to understand that the number of players on the table greatly affects how many hands you should play, if in the table there are 10 or more players you need to play very tight but if you are playing a heads up match up then you need to play almost every hand regardless of what you have.

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July 29, 2018, 05:33:33 PM
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Depends a lot on how well you know the players, and how often you bluff. I used to play a lot of poker with the same regular friends, and our style is to have a second person sitting with the player, sort of like pairs playing with each other. Allowed for more variations of bluffing (my pair was pretty good, a Filipino probably used to gambling haha, knew how to fake surprise really well haha).

Some players also play to other players' hands, instead of their own, as some people behave almost the same way depending on their hand, that way you don't build a behaviour on your own hand.

But yes, I think the stats show that the most successful players play hands, bluffs are too risky to call all the time anyway, and should only be played once the crazies are out (those that just chase down every call/raise).

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July 29, 2018, 07:33:21 PM
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I haven't played poker for quite a while and I don't know if/how much times have changed, but when I used to play back in the day there was a lot of bluffing going on especially in the tournament and sit&go matches. If you wanted to have a better chance of going further in the tournaments you had to try to double your stack as early as possible. It was basically a massive shitshow of people going all-in with all sorts of bad combinations hoping to catch a good card on the river and win the pot. Then if you somehow made it into the later stages there was the ante stealing which was mandatory in order to stop rapidly losing your chips. Sit & go games were in the same fashion only slower.
I would say, in general, bluffing happens less frequently on cash tables as regulars know each other pretty well and are less likely to use tricks over solid hands.
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July 29, 2018, 07:57:42 PM
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Yeah, in online tournaments, particularly freerolls, all rules and tactics go out the window for the first 10-20 hands. I would barely even call it bluffing - people going all in pre-flop and you knew full well that the majority of them had nothing spectacular, and were just betting on getting some lucky community cards.
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July 29, 2018, 07:59:51 PM
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I think bluff is a high risk, which a person should take only when he can afford to lose everything and the game for him is no more than just a fun. On the other hand it's not less hazardous to keep playing very confidently, when you have a strong hand. In fact, this might be even worse, as such a player keeps betting so confidently not even thinking that some of other players might have a little better cards. I think such situations often lead to a total disaster.
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July 29, 2018, 08:52:37 PM
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these two options are very good in the game to increase confidence and also the strategy to influence the opponent, the oppression is needed in this game has a function where when exactly do it, if someone will make yourself more depressed, all depends on confidence and make decisions well, more bluff then i sure will be good in every game, already good at reading rhythm game.
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July 30, 2018, 01:32:27 AM
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I've been watching some poker tournaments with Antonius, Negreanu and Cates lately. Most of the time the person with better combination actually wins, but there occur some great bluffs from time to time as well. Do you think it is better to fold if you don't have at least one high card in a pair or two cards of the same suit? Is it worth to try out overbetting tricks when you really have shitty cards? When I tried playing poker, overbetting usually made me fold, because it is a hard psychological attack for me and I am not the kind of a person that is willing to risk a lot. But I am bad at poker. What is your opinion on this matter?
Poker is more of a psychological and skill game, more than luck. The main aim of the player should be to become unpredictable or un-readable so that opponent has no idea if youve got the cards or not. If you play one style of game, that is only playing good cards or bluffing a lot of times, the good players will pick that up easily and have a better educated guess on what you might have done. Antonius is great at keeping it unpredictable while Negreanu is great at reading his oppositions plays and cards. If you can do both, Im sure you can make a good living out of just playing poker, but thats the tricky part. It is very hard to do so. Theres a lot of theory and maths involved in becoming good at poker player too. I guess you start reading a few books so that you can make better educated guesses and calling those bluffs once in a while and getting paid. Good luck. Smiley

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July 30, 2018, 04:08:13 AM
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good cards with good bluffs is a weapon to win in poker , I know a friend that is so good in bluffing and most of the time he beat us when we play since i am not good in it but later on I also learned how to hide my emotions and know how to bluffs also it is really a good trick in playing poker but still gambling is still risky.

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July 30, 2018, 05:29:56 AM
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good cards with good bluffs is a weapon to win in poker , I know a friend that is so good in bluffing and most of the time he beat us when we play since i am not good in it but later on I also learned how to hide my emotions and know how to bluffs also it is really a good trick in playing poker but still gambling is still risky.

Poker is one of the most popular games in gambling, in fact when you say Gambling Poker is one of the game that you will immediately remember or think of, also Poker face was invented in relation with this game.

Pokerface is a showing no facial expressions giving a blank expression to your opponents. In that way you can trick your opponent and they will be having a hard time what kind of card you are having. I prefer Bluffing in Poker since there are a lot of times when this strategy won a lot of tables. You can't really play a good card without some quite bluff.
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