minefarmbuy
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 1022
Merit: 221
We are not retail.
|
|
September 14, 2018, 06:22:55 PM |
|
If we get lot's of demand hopefully a price break on a large quantity will balance some of the tariff out.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
In order to get the maximum amount of activity points possible, you just need to post once per day on average. Skipping days is OK as long as you maintain the average.
|
|
|
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
|
|
|
QuestionQuest
|
|
September 22, 2018, 10:07:19 AM |
|
While you all calculate Avalon, Innosilicion, Halong, WhatsMiner, Holic (for B2B), GMO ... and and and .... I was waiting for the next step of Bitmain and was every disappointed as I saw the "AntBox" some weeks ago. While Bitmain is using a shitty 16nm chip and the chip design is beating them almost all for what you get (price). Now its out 7nm chip with Bitmain chip-design and they will rule the market again
|
### S9 13.5/14T (RIP) ### DragonMint 16T (DEVIL) --> Bitmain and Innosilicon (HAIL TO!) ###
|
|
|
philipma1957
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4116
Merit: 7867
'The right to privacy matters'
|
|
September 22, 2018, 01:32:16 PM Last edit: September 25, 2018, 12:33:00 AM by frodocooper |
|
While you all calculate Avalon, Innosilicion, Halong, WhatsMiner, Holic (for B2B), GMO ... and and and .... I was waiting for the next step of Bitmain and was every disappointed as I saw the "AntBox" some weeks ago. While Bitmain is using a shitty 16nm chip and the chip design is beating them almost all for what you get (price). Now its out 7nm chip with Bitmain chip-design and they will rule the market again or will ebang's newer model be better.
|
|
|
|
AniceInovation
Donator
Sr. Member
Offline
Activity: 446
Merit: 262
Interesting.
|
|
September 22, 2018, 09:23:22 PM |
|
|
|
|
|
dutchlincoln
Member
Offline
Activity: 434
Merit: 30
|
|
September 22, 2018, 09:48:35 PM |
|
its a laugh and failure compared to competition....
|
|
|
|
minefarmbuy
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 1022
Merit: 221
We are not retail.
|
|
September 22, 2018, 10:31:55 PM |
|
1800w
|
|
|
|
philipma1957
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4116
Merit: 7867
'The right to privacy matters'
|
|
September 23, 2018, 12:25:01 AM Last edit: September 25, 2018, 12:33:57 AM by frodocooper |
|
its a laugh and failure compared to competition....
well depends pricing is not crazy and the 841 could underclock to get 90 or 91 watts a th. so if this is 85 watts a th and you clock it to 17th getting 75 watts a th compared to the m10 it is close to but not quite competitive. an m10 = 34th at 2350 watts this could be 34 th at watts 2550 watts I got really good under clock with the 841. still it missed whisper specs by a ton. I have done a lot of good deals with avalon I need to talk with steve about getting 2 .
|
|
|
|
minefarmbuy
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 1022
Merit: 221
We are not retail.
|
|
September 23, 2018, 03:30:33 AM |
|
921 more or less efficient than the s9j? Essentially this unit is best compared when looking at T2 or the turbo at 24th/s. Essentially cheap hash to watt or dollar/BTC.
Mid range unit and typical Canaan price to market to sell. You know it's a solid unit and probably the x amount you buy will work a long time with moderate maintenance. If your starting a farm right now it's worthy to consider.
Edited for typo and to reminder everyone it's 1800w again.
|
|
|
|
philipma1957
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4116
Merit: 7867
'The right to privacy matters'
|
|
September 23, 2018, 03:53:57 AM |
|
921 more or less efficient than the s9j? Essentially this unit is best compared when looking at T2 or the turbo at 24th/s. Essentially cheap hash to watt or dollar/BTC.
Mid range unit and typical Canaan price to market to sell. You know it's a solid unit and probably the x amount you buy will work a long time with moderate maintenance. If your starting a farm right now it's worthy to consider.
Edited for typo and to reminder everyone it's 1800w again.
So if it is 20 th at 1800 watts it is a hair better then an s-9 j at efficiency on stock settings It does get about 6th extra compared to the s9j The real key is can I get the undeclock on it to work as well as it does on the 841. If I can do that it will drop to 75-80 watts a th at near the 16th mark. But if it under clocks like the 851 it will not be so good. I have a lot of info posted on both the 841 and the 851 it shows the 841 to do very well on underclocks and the 851 to not do so well.
|
|
|
|
DarkStar_
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2758
Merit: 3282
|
|
September 23, 2018, 04:18:37 AM |
|
Anyone know what fab Canaan uses for their 7nm chips? I wonder if it's a bad 7nm process that's preventing them from gaining higher efficiency/hashrate.
|
taking a break - expect delayed responses
|
|
|
Steamtyme
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1540
Merit: 2036
Betnomi.com Sportsbook, Casino and Poker
|
|
September 23, 2018, 04:30:31 AM |
|
I don't think the 921 is reflective of their best product with 7nm Chips.
Not sure about their overall process but hasn't it been the case going back to at least the 7 series, that they have a x21 model that kinda delivers, but is soon replaced by the x41 which tends to be the best option for that line. Generally being significantly more efficient, powerful or both.
|
░░░░░▄▄██████▄▄ ░░▄████▀▀▀▀▀▀████▄ ░███▀░░░░░░░░░░▀█▀█ ███░░░▄██████▄▄░░░██ ░░░░░█████████░░░░██▌ ░░░░█████████████████ ░░░░█████████████████ ░░░░░████████████████ ███▄░░▀██████▀░░░███ █▀█▄▄░░░░░░░░░░▄███ ░░▀████▄▄▄▄▄▄████▀ ░░░░░▀▀██████▀▀
| Ripmixer ░░░░░▄▄██████▄▄ ░░▄████▀▀▀▀▀▀████▄ ░███▀░░░░░░░░░░▀█▀█ ███░░░▄██████▄▄░░░██ ░░░░░█████████░░░░██▌ ░░░░█████████████████ ░░░░█████████████████ ░░░░░████████████████ ███▄░░▀██████▀░░░███ █▀█▄▄░░░░░░░░░░▄███ ░░▀████▄▄▄▄▄▄████▀ ░░░░░▀▀██████▀▀
|
|
|
|
minefarmbuy
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 1022
Merit: 221
We are not retail.
|
|
September 23, 2018, 06:52:21 AM |
|
Agreed, feel though their timing is off.
Again, T2 was in what? March? So 2 quarters too late on the 821? Or are they holding back on their chip? Now I'm getting speculatory (if that's a word). Seems their two designs trend too close together.
Quality of chips? Or Canaan delivering trade mark? Have they always been so conservative in design?
|
|
|
|
HagssFIN
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1706
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
|
|
September 23, 2018, 06:55:08 AM |
|
Anyone know what fab Canaan uses for their 7nm chips? I wonder if it's a bad 7nm process that's preventing them from gaining higher efficiency/hashrate.
Canaan uses TSMC.
|
|
|
|
yxt
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3528
Merit: 1116
|
|
September 23, 2018, 08:46:40 PM Last edit: September 25, 2018, 12:35:58 AM by frodocooper |
|
Canaan uses TSMC.
I can confirm that.
|
BTC | Kano Pool | ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ | | ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ | | ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ |
|
|
|
fccs
Member
Offline
Activity: 355
Merit: 47
|
|
September 24, 2018, 02:04:29 AM |
|
I really like Canaan and heavily support their miners because of the reliability and warranty they offer. This miner however, I sadly will not be getting. Very big disappointment, I can't believe they would even release a miner with these specs when they boasted a 30th miner with much much less watt per th. Guess wait for the 941..
|
|
|
|
ccgllc
Copper Member
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 658
Merit: 101
Math doesn't care what you believe.
|
|
September 26, 2018, 02:36:19 AM |
|
I really like Canaan and heavily support their miners because of the reliability and warranty they offer. This miner however, I sadly will not be getting. Very big disappointment, I can't believe they would even release a miner with these specs when they boasted a 30th miner with much much less watt per th. Guess wait for the 941..
Noticed that the 2 year warranty is now a 6 month warranty...
|
Mined for a living since 2017. Dabbled for years before that. Linux admin since 0.96 kernel and Slackware distributions on (4) floppies...
|
|
|
fccs
Member
Offline
Activity: 355
Merit: 47
|
|
September 26, 2018, 05:18:29 AM Last edit: September 26, 2018, 12:13:31 PM by frodocooper |
|
Noticed that the 2 year warranty is now a 6 month warranty...
Did not notice that actually. Upsetting. We will see. I plan to be going with the most efficient for this next season. I have my eyes set on 2 or 3 companies so we will see.
|
|
|
|
minefarmbuy
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 1022
Merit: 221
We are not retail.
|
|
September 26, 2018, 02:01:41 PM |
|
Canaan's 2 year limited warranty applies to the 921.
|
|
|
|
philipma1957
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4116
Merit: 7867
'The right to privacy matters'
|
|
September 26, 2018, 02:19:39 PM |
|
Canaan's 2 year limited warranty applies to the 921.
Do you have these for sale?
|
|
|
|
minefarmbuy
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 1022
Merit: 221
We are not retail.
|
|
September 26, 2018, 02:51:34 PM |
|
921? No philip we don't stock. We have a group buy up if people want to join. Though the 20 units MOQ isn't so bad but well out of my capabilities. I put in for one myself but looks like it may take a while to fill as demand is sparce.
With new tariffs international buyers are able to get cheaper units at least regarding Canaan. I'd be happy to plug a reseller but they upset me in another thread. I probably just need my coffee.
|
|
|
|
|