All bounty hunters are from Philippines?? (PROOF)

[paparexon0414]

I understand why there are so many people here in the Philippines doing everything they can just to earn money. I know that some of them are already abusing the forum and some are earning money even it's in a bad way. Because actually I'm experiencing the same way how they live. But behind all of these, I still can't resist to understand why they are doing such things,  what they were doing makes me think that it's too bad, but also so sad.

I don't know how to defend my countrymens after seeing the spreadsheet, but as a Filipino, I would like to defend the remaining good members and the name of my country from people who were judging it. Yeah, the spreadsheet proves that there are really a lot of bounty hunter from Philippines and you are free to say that too many shitposters are from Philippines but can anyone assure that we are all the same? English is not our native language but it makes me laugh whenever a Filipino beats a Native English Speaker.

By the way OP, is it right to say to your topic's title that "All bounty hunters are from Philippines?"
I will not disagree that's it is right if there are no other participants from other countries.

Although there are lot of Filipino who were hunting bounties, guys please, don't forget that there are still some Filipino who were doing good contributions for the forum also at some general discussions. I'm afraid that you might forget that there are still some people from Philippines who are good part of this community.

Of course they will flood this forum. They live on dirt floors with no running water, they can make a fortune on this forum compared to their normal wages.

Watch your tongue buddy You don't need to say that.

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There are a lot of people in the Philippines that speak a high level of English. A lot of call centers that service English speaking countries all over the world are based in the Philippines.

Thanks man.

If anyone doesn't believe that people from Philippines are really good at speaking English. I'm pretty sure that Google will give you some result 

Or just read this article...
"Well, people will now have to think twice before mocking Filipinos’ use of the English language since according to a study by GlobalEnglish Corporation, the Philippines was named the world’s best country in business English proficiency, in not just one but two consecutive years. GlobalEnglish releases an annual report called Business English Index (BEI)the only index that measures business English proficiency in the workplace."

Source: http://www.staffvirtual.com/call-center-capital-of-world-philippines-best-in-english

Nothing much to say

This is very touching brother. I am a Filipino, and reading this thread really making me so degrading. So happy that there are some really understand our situation. I will not argue about the shit posting and spamming because somehow this is true. But please dont generalized the  Filipinos to do all the shitposting here. We maybe a third world country but we are still want to be part of the crypto community. Most of us is striving hard to learn the basic not just to earn big but also to gain more knowledge how to invest right. Also thanks you for the kind word with this kind of degrading "Of course they will flood this forum. They live on dirt floors with no running water, they can make a fortune on this forum compared to their normal wages."

[coinnumber]

All bounty hunters can't be Philippines rather most of them. Apart from this spreadsheet I believed no other prove though its enough. My point here is that 100% of hunters in the Crypto world can't just be from one country is better you say most of the hunters instead of saying all.

[wvizmanos]

Hello, I have just found this interesting information.
When you look at this bounty spreadsheet (GCOX campaign): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12TJzpkePkRwyRBEIIvjr-mJnZbskkW_wfD2mZNBMm0Q/edit#gid=1544862346 - you will see that almost everyone is from Philippines.
It is not strange? It is not an example of multiaccounting?
The registration form looks like this: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScchFQPaafMx3fVTMYiNs2KuFTrx03Gtuy1RbilqfTFHcPPjA/viewform

Thank you for your explanation .

Only posting my reply to your question after having read all the comments. My answer is you should not find it strange that GCOX is being supported by Filipinos when it is being promoted by one highly sought after Filipino public / sports figure.
What I find strange though is that there are so many horrible high ranking member racists in this forum. With all due respect Shame on you.

[mikejack]

Good day everyone,
I'm also from philippines,and one of the participants on gcox bounty campaign.

yes! I admit that most of the participants on gcox bounty are filipino's,but you can not say that this is a spam or claiming for multi-account.
Do you know why most filipino's are joined the gcox bounty?
Just because of manny pacquiao.

Manny paqcuiao is our pinoy pride in world of boxing, and i want you to know that he's one of the key investor of gcox. So what do you expect from filipino's?

Let me ask you one thing. If you are in our situation and your country is involed,what would you do?

Please answer me.

[Lagonda]

yes! I admit that most of the participants on gcox bounty are filipino's,but you can not say that this is a spam or claiming for multi-account.
Do you know why most filipino's are joined the gcox bounty?
Just because of manny pacquiao.

Many Filipinos in this thread defense themselves because of Manny Pacquiao's involvement but it can't hide the fact that there's a huge amount of Filipinos bounty hunters and a lot of them are spammers, trashposters.

Supporting Manny Pacquiao? I don't think so, they're taking advantages of him. His appearance maybe a sign of non-scamming project and once those hunters get their bounty distribution, they will be the first ones to sell out. Is this called "support"?

Let me ask you one thing. If you are in our situation and your country is involed,what would you do?
Please answer me.

I see Michael Owen is also an investor but there's no English bounty hunter joining.

[Silent26]

Many Filipinos in this thread defense themselves because of Manny Pacquiao's involvement but it can't hide the fact that there's a huge amount of Filipinos bounty hunters and a lot of them are spammers, trashposters.

I'm a Filipino and I defend my countrymens, but I didn't used Manny Pacman as an excuse. Yeah you were right, some shitposters are from my country and the sad part is I won't argue with that since it's true but I'm sure that the majority of shitposters are not from Philippines, I don't have evidences to prove it but I can sense it with my guts. Also, even though we can tell that there are lot of spammers from my country, don't forget that some Filipinos are still fulfilling the Forum goals which is "spam free" as we contribute in spam busting and good discussions. Not like other countries who have shitposters but also doesn't have any good members left.

I see Michael Owen is also an investor but there's no English bounty hunter joining.

Maybe it's because he doesn't have that too many followers 

[Piggy]

Good day everyone,
I'm also from philippines,and one of the participants on gcox bounty campaign.

yes! I admit that most of the participants on gcox bounty are filipino's,but you can not say that this is a spam or claiming for multi-account.
Do you know why most filipino's are joined the gcox bounty?
Just because of manny pacquiao.

Manny paqcuiao is our pinoy pride in world of boxing, and i want you to know that he's one of the key investor of gcox. So what do you expect from filipino's?

Let me ask you one thing. If you are in our situation and your country is involed,what would you do?

Please answer me.

A celebrity involved in an ico could be a first sign that something is fishy, as mentioned by SEC. As for Filipinos being spammers was deducted from the local board or by other means? 

[Jet Cash]

We are now entering a global world, and we should consider individuals, and their personal morality and desire to improve themselves. Some of the worst and most evil people come from the Eton/Oxford English 'elite'. Bounty spamming may be used as a means of supplementing an income, but that doesn't mean that you can't be productive member of the forum, and use your time here to improve yourself, and your employment prospects. Don't waste your time by scratching for pennies, and risking a ban. Read, learn and be constructive in your posting - it will help to to join the better bounties at the very least.

[1993jochico]

Hello! I'm from the Philippines and I'm quite surprised of how many Filipinos are participants of that campaign, because to be honest, not a lot of people know about bitcoin in here. I live in Manila - which is supposed to be the most "advanced" city in my country - but even so, the number of people who know about cryptocurrency or that it even exists in this city is very low, even among teenagers and young adults. However, I guess it's not fair to assume that that's a result of multiaccounting. Just my two cents  

Im also from the PH and he is right, a lot of people here still dont have any idea on what bitcoin is if Im going to conduct a survey that ask people here near me if they know bitcoin estimatedly 8 out of 10 people here will tell me that bitcoin is a scam.

Everytime I ask some of my friend's about it they will answer fast that it is a scam and Im trying my best to give them an idea about it though non of them are interested to talk about it.

If I am going to answer about that campaign, I will tell you that I think there's a lot of alt accounts in there that own by only one person.

I know the fact that there's a lot of abusive filipino's here in this forum and Im very disappointed about it because those people dont think about the forum they are the selfish one's that will do anything just to get what they want.

I cant blame anyone here that they are blaming filipino's causing spam in this forum because its true, but please dont look at us as one(1), there are also legit filipino member's here and loyal to this forum.

[mikejack]

Many Filipinos in this thread defense themselves because of Manny Pacquiao's involvement but it can't hide the fact that there's a huge amount of Filipinos bounty hunters and a lot of them are spammers, trashposters.

Supporting Manny Pacquiao? I don't think so, they're taking advantages of him. His appearance maybe a sign of non-scamming project and once those hunters get their bounty distribution, they will be the first ones to sell out. Is this called "support"?

Oh please give me a break! That is just a superficial statement and not a thought provoking one at all. We support Pacquiao because we are his great fans and through this support we are going to be rewarded, i guess it is not a big deal right?

[zenrol28]

I don't know why this residency became an issue where the form only ask to put a country. Anyone can lie and place any location they want as long as it's not US and Singapore.

[cabron]

I don't know why this residency became an issue where the form only ask to put a country. Anyone can lie and place any location they want as long as it's not US and Singapore.

You mean they are not telling the truth they are actually not from Philippines? I thought its China and US that is hard on crypto. Singapore is very open to it.

But who cares if they are from Philippines. They were accepted by the bounty manager, he sees something to these participants that can add up to their workforce. Manny Pacquiao need more muscles to promote the cryptocurrency he had invested with.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

We are now entering a global world,

And culture clashes along with left-wing madness have made it one of the most divided worlds I've ever experienced.

I do agree that people should try to improve themselves, but I don't see that happening at all with the bounty hunters as far as their participation on bitcointalk goes, and that's not just a Filipino thing and not just a language thing.  All the alt accounts and abuse usually have an advertisement in a signature associated with it.  They may be improving their lives financially, but they're eroding the quality of the forum.  I don't know how your Fit To Talk forum is going, but I don't see much desire here for people to improve their English.  It's just too bad that local board posts usually aren't paid for by campaigns.

And this:

scratching for pennies

is just plain wrong, and I bristle whenever I read stuff like that.  These bounties pay pretty good, even if you're living in the US, UK, or any other country where it costs a lot just to live.  In 3rd world countries I would imagine you could live like a king if you have your whole family enrolled in a bounty.  Imagine what you could earn if you throw a bunch of alt accounts into the mix--and that's the problem.  People are waaay too incentivized to just keep churning out the dreck that these bounties deem acceptable.  That's not going to change until the bounties start raising the bar for entrance.

[Jet Cash]

scratching for pennies

is just plain wrong, and I bristle whenever I read stuff like that. 

But aren't the best bounty programmes really difficult to join? I see reports that some of the lesser ones offer fairly low payment, and then they try to avoid paying even these small amounts.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

But aren't the best bounty programmes really difficult to join? I see reports that some of the lesser ones offer fairly low payment, and then they try to avoid paying even these small amounts.

I guess it depends on how they get paid, whether it's in tokens or bitcoin.  There are still a number of bitcoin-paying campaigns that pay fairly well and that still accept lower-ranked members.  If it's an altcoin bounty and they pay out a decent amount of tokens AND if the token doesn't go to zero as soon as it's launched, they can make quite a bit.  Plus from what I've seen, there are more parts of the bounty (signature campaign, FB & Twitter campaigns, and translations) AND more bounties to enter.  There was one bounty hunter who made a scam accusation not too long ago who said he was scammed out of well over $1000 worth of tokens that he was due for a month's work (can't remember the exact amount), and that was just from one bounty.

The point is, the amounts aren't really small.  Certainly not pennies.  Look at how much Chipmixer pays for the maximum of 50 posts/week.  It's a fantastic way to earn some bitcoin, and if you lived in a poor area you could probably live on it, assuming the price of bitcoin doesn't tank.  If I had alt accounts in other campaigns, I could very easily meet all my monthly financial obligations (though I do live like an hermit-aesthete and don't have many expenses).  It's crazy if you think about it, but it's true.

And no, I don't think most bounties are hard to join.  If they were, there wouldn't be so many damn shitposters on bitcointalk.  That point should be self-evident.

[hilariousetc]

But aren't the best bounty programmes really difficult to join? I see reports that some of the lesser ones offer fairly low payment, and then they try to avoid paying even these small amounts.

The high paying bitcoin ones usually are really difficult to join. It depends on the manager. If you've got one that is doing his job and checking users for quality then shitposters have no chance. It's very hard to get onto Chipmixer for example and only the best posters usually do, but ICO campaigns are happy to accept almost anyone because any person they can get is beneficial to them. They pay people in tokens they've created themselves out of thin air and it costs them nothing to do so so why not accept anyone? If every campaign had a decent manager who was checking for quality then we wouldn't have this issue in the first place, and that's why I'm all for punishments for those that run spam campaigns. People would soon start doing their job if it's impacting them financially but when there's no repercussions for those that don't then nothing will change.

The point is, the amounts aren't really small.  Certainly not pennies.  Look at how much Chipmixer pays for the maximum of 50 posts/week.  It's a fantastic way to earn some bitcoin, and if you lived in a poor area you could probably live on it, assuming the price of bitcoin doesn't tank.  If I had alt accounts in other campaigns, I could very easily meet all my monthly financial obligations (though I do live like an hermit-aesthete and don't have many expenses).  It's crazy if you think about it, but it's true.

You can probably live off Chipmixer in the UK, nevermind developing countries which it will easily be a better monthly wage than probably a half-decent job there. For 200 posts a month you get 0.15 which is currently a little over £800. That's like a part time job wage over here. State benefits for the unemployed are only around £300 a month and that's what the government says is the minimum somebody needs to survive here (though you'd struggle on that), so £800 would pay your rent, food, bills and probably a couple of hundred left over depending on how frugal you live. You can probably earn this from alt coin bounties if you have enough accounts and that's why people create so many alts because the more you have the more you can earn here. A lot of airdrops only require you to sign up with a forum account so there's no real effort needed other than the time it takes to sign up with your account.

And no, I don't think most bounties are hard to join.  If they were, there wouldn't be so many damn shitposters on bitcointalk.  That point should be self-evident.

Anyone can join bounties. Bounty campaigns pop up almost every day and they often accept unlimited amounts of users. Most accept Juniors, some even Newbies, and like you said there's usually several avenues that they can earn in: signature campaign, twitter, facebook, translation, plus others, so that's why bitcointalk is so attractive to them. You can literally earn a decent living all from home. Great in some aspects and I'm very thankful for it, but when there's no real rules here for bounties (other than don't pay people to post in your thread but paradoxically it's ok to pay them to spam everywhere else) it just turns into a nightmare of a shitshow with wall to wall spam. If we'd have enforced the sig campaign guidelines we created and given out punishments for badly run campaigns we wouldn't have this issue in the first place but the longer we leave our heads in the sand things just get exponentially worse day by day, especially when people who are making good money here tell all their friends and family and they sign up with half a dozen accounts each to bleed bounties for all they're worth. Something needs to change with the culture of bounties here or spammers are going to be the only people posting here soon enough (and they've already dwarfed regular/quality posts as it's almost impossible to have a decent discussion in most places).

[zenrol28]

You mean they are not telling the truth they are actually not from Philippines?

All accounts who submitted their forms might be telling false locations. Like spreadsheet #57, where he/she resides in "Citizen".

I thought its China and US that is hard on crypto. Singapore is very open to it.

Why not see the bounty thread for yourself.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4608750

[Jet Cash]

I've been posting in forums for over 20 years, and so far I have never rented my signature. I've promoted a variety of products with affiliate links, but these have all been services that I've used, and that I know are honest. By promting a site or product in your signature, you are hanging your reputation on it, and I believe you should research the product before you take the risk.

and I've had several offers over the years, including some in this forum. So far I have declined all of them.

[pugman]

Hey, don't be so harsh on the Filipino people. I know more than a few Filipinos IRL , and they are genuinely nice people. They aren't like the Americans or you know like the..Irish(known to swear a lot). They are sweet people and happy with what they have. Most of them don't have the "Hey, I am asshole" type of attitude.

The reason why these people come to join bounties, is that they don't get decent jobs, as in people undervalue and underestimate them a lot. They get paid like 800-1000$ per month, after working their asses off. Most of them usually work in places like McDonalds, and mainly be cashiers and jobs like that. Now, I haven't been to Philippines but there are lot of them in the country I reside in. So I am saying all this from what I have seen. Just to be clear, I am not a Filipino.

Also know that, there are a few contributors from Philippines here: theyoungmillionnaire,Silent26, rickbig41 , dabs,etc.

I guess it depends on how they get paid, whether it's in tokens or bitcoin.  There are still a number of bitcoin-paying campaigns that pay fairly well and that still accept lower-ranked members.  If it's an altcoin bounty and they pay out a decent amount of tokens AND if the token doesn't go to zero as soon as it's launched, they can make quite a bit.  Plus from what I've seen, there are more parts of the bounty (signature campaign, FB & Twitter campaigns, and translations) AND more bounties to enter.  There was one bounty hunter who made a scam accusation not too long ago who said he was scammed out of well over $1000 worth of tokens that he was due for a month's work (can't remember the exact amount), and that was just from one bounty.

People have earned like 200,000$ and more of just one bounty by abusing them.

The point is, the amounts aren't really small.  Certainly not pennies.  Look at how much Chipmixer pays for the maximum of 50 posts/week.  It's a fantastic way to earn some bitcoin, and if you lived in a poor area you could probably live on it, assuming the price of bitcoin doesn't tank.  If I had alt accounts in other campaigns, I could very easily meet all my monthly financial obligations (though I do live like an hermit-aesthete and don't have many expenses).  It's crazy if you think about it, but it's true.

And no, I don't think most bounties are hard to join.  If they were, there wouldn't be so many damn shitposters on bitcointalk.  That point should be self-evident.

People can pay their college tuition off just by being in chipmixer(30,000$ is the average). So imagine. Its fucking crazy. Never thought you could accomplish all your dreams just by shitposting in bounties.

We don't deserve this world. 

I've been posting in forums for over 20 years, and so far I have never rented my signature. I've promoted a variety of products with affiliate links, but these have all been services that I've used, and that I know are honest. By promting a site or product in your signature, you are hanging your reputation on it, and I believe you should research the product before you take the risk.

and I've had several offers over the years, including some in this forum. So far I have declined all of them.

This is somewhat untrue. Nobody would care about anybody's reputation after a certain point. Ref links are almost the same as signatures. You're promoting a company either way. And promoting doesn't necessarily mean to destroy your reputation, there's nothing wrong with it. There are members who don't have any signatures but still have a bad reputation. Point is, if you're genuine person, you don't have to worry about a signature changing your reputation, what you do and say is what actually affects it. And the reputation stays in and only in the forum and not in your real life. 

[Thekool1s]

If every campaign had a decent manager who was checking for quality then we wouldn't have this issue in the first place, and that's why I'm all for punishments for those that run spam campaigns.

It won't serve any purpose IMO. There is nothing stopping these farmers to create a new account and start managing the campaigns from a newbie account. Since this is a private forum, I am all in for charging these ICOs to post their campaigns and posts. This should at least remove all the crapy 1 person scam ICOs.

Something needs to change with the culture of bounties here or spammers are going to be the only people posting here soon enough

THIS!!! To be honest I am tired of seeing all these useless topics being created by newbies which add literally no value to this forum. I have given up building my ignore list it's just not worth it. These new accounts keep popping up and just keep ruining my experience on bitcointalk. I have altogether left visiting some sections of the forum.

We need heavy moderation, especially on the newbies. Something like we discussed in the patrol thread.