Is it the ICO team responsibility or the Bounty Manager?

[jacee]

I'm not sure if this is posted in the right board.

I have a client who managed several scam ICOs and have asked me to make signatures for it.
He now told me to directly talk to the ICO team and ask for payment. Isn't it the bounty managers responsibility that I get my payment? Since he personally asked me to create those signatures which isn't part of the bounty canpaign?

Am I allowed to ask him for ETH or Btc as payment instead of the tokens since the ICO has failed?

I have received a response from one of the ICO team and they refuses to pay me because their ICO failed.

[jbfkasfaiew]

This is useful information for people to learn. In my opinion, you try to ask BTC or ETH to pay instead of the token due to ICO failure. I hope you will succeed and get back your money.

[hilariousetc]

I'm not sure if this is posted in the right board.

I have a client who managed several scam ICOs and have asked me to make signatures for it.
He now told me to directly talk to the ICO team and ask for payment. Isn't it the bounty managers responsibility that I get my payment? Since he personally asked me to create those signatures which isn't part of the bounty canpaign?

Am I allowed to ask him for ETH or Btc as payment instead of the tokens since the ICO has failed?

I have received a response from one of the ICO team and they refuses to pay me because their ICO failed.

You should work that stuff out before you agree to work with them, but if the bounty manager asked you to do something I think it's safe to say he should be the one ultimately responsible for getting you the payment whether it's out of his own pocket or not. If you agreed to do a deal in tokens then I don't think that entitles you to payment in another currency though, but that's why you shouldn't agree to get paid in tokens, because if it fails then they're worthless. At least do a 50/50 deal or something.

You should also get payment upfront or use escrow if the person can't be trusted. I would never do anything for an ICO with the promise that they will pay you after it has finished because it's just too much risk.

Who is the bounty manager?

[TheUltraElite]

I have a client who managed several scam ICOs and have asked me to make signatures for it.

Thats interesting. I would like to know who this manager is.

Am I allowed to ask him for ETH or Btc as payment instead of the tokens since the ICO has failed?

Since the ICO failed, possibly they didnt raise funds to pay anybody.

I have received a response from one of the ICO team and they refuses to pay me because their ICO failed.

I dont know but if you have had an agreement with the manager to pay you then they must respect that decision. If they are not doing so they are guilty of non-payment.

But as far a "scam" ICO is concerned, is this current ICO a scam one?
Or did they not manage to raise funds even after being a legit one?

If its the first one then you can forget about any payment. If its the second one you can try talking to the team.

Anyway good luck on securing any payment for your hard work.

[Thekool1s]

I have a client who managed several scam ICOs and have asked me to make signatures for it.

So he has used your service on multiple occasions? If so, Did he always pay you? Or you got the payments from the ICOs you worked with? If he was never involved in the Transactions, I doubt he is to be blamed here. If the guy just referred you to the ICO he ain't responsible for the ICO not paying up.

Who is the bounty manager?

Indeed who is this guy? And why did jacee work with Scam ICOs? I know getting paid is fine but if jacee knew that these ICOs are a scam why work with them 

[LogitechMouse]

Am I allowed to ask him for ETH or Btc as payment instead of the tokens since the ICO has failed?

This is the problem when most of the ICO want to hire some experts in this forum and they want to pay them with their own native token. I haven't tried to cooperate with ICO team (hoping I will ) but for me, its better before you do some work with them make a deal first that they will pay you either 100% BTC or ETH or 50% BTC/ETH and 50% their native token so in that way, you will never go away empty handed. You have BTC/ETH as your reward if in case their ICO fail like in the ICO that you participated.

[jacee]

You should work that stuff out before you agree to work with them, but if the bounty manager asked you to do something I think it's safe to say he should be the one ultimately responsible for getting you the payment whether it's out of his own pocket or not. If you agreed to do a deal in tokens then I don't think that entitles you to payment in another currency though, but that's why you shouldn't agree to get paid in tokens, because if it fails then they're worthless. At least do a 50/50 deal or something.
You should also get payment upfront or use escrow if the person can't be trusted. I would never do anything for an ICO with the promise that they will pay you after it has finished because it's just too much risk.

The deal was actually made months ago and I was just starting my service then so I did agreed with tokens as payment to help build my portfolio. I admit that it was naive of me to accept tokens as payment.

Who is the bounty manager?

afaik it was AshleyAhes who I talked to in bitcointalk and @dmitriyICO on telegram

I dont know but if you have had an agreement with the manager to pay you then they must respect that decision. If they are not doing so they are guilty of non-payment.

But as far a "scam" ICO is concerned, is this current ICO a scam one?
Or did they not manage to raise funds even after being a legit one?

If its the first one then you can forget about any payment. If its the second one you can try talking to the team.

So he has used your service on multiple occasions? If so, Did he always pay you? Or you got the payments from the ICOs you worked with? If he was never involved in the Transactions, I doubt he is to be blamed here. If the guy just referred you to the ICO he ain't responsible for the ICO not paying up.

The deal was made between me and the Bounty manager. I never talked to any of the ICO teams and he process the payment.
Kyc.Legal PM7 had a successful ICO and after that turned out to be scam. I did received the tokens from these two but it never reached any exchange due to the team completely disappearing after getting funds.

I did got paid with the campaigns they ran for MMRS and Icerockmining
And I'm still waiting for payment for the signature I made for Puregold which had a successful ICO

The failed ICO I mentioned is safe.ad


Anyway I'm just asking. And hoping that the ICO teams get negged. I know it isn't the bounty managers fault if an ICO turned out to be a scam but I'm just wishing there is something that can be done to teach them a lesson here that they should do their work properly.

[Thekool1s]

Anyway I'm just asking. And hoping that the ICO teams get negged. I know it isn't the bounty managers fault if an ICO turned out to be a scam but I'm just wishing there is something that can be done to teach them a lesson here that they should do their work properly.

Indeed they should be tagged. But tagging those accounts will achieve nothing. They have already scammed and will hardly care about their accounts.

[Avirunes]

You should now try to ask for escrow before starting the work out. I was also scammed earlier and I suggest you should start accepting stable cryptocurrencies. Some of them may try to give you token which is not actual project's token or some teams may ditch the project after ICO in which case you might lose a good proportion of your reward you took for designing signatures.

[Findingnemo]

The deal was made between me and the Bounty manager. I never talked to any of the ICO teams and he process the payment.
Kyc.Legal PM7 had a successful ICO and after that turned out to be scam. I did received the tokens from these two but it never reached any exchange due to the team completely disappearing after getting funds.

I did got paid with the campaigns they ran for MMRS and Icerockmining
And I'm still waiting for payment for the signature I made for Puregold which had a successful ICO

The failed ICO I mentioned is safe.ad


Anyway I'm just asking. And hoping that the ICO teams get negged. I know it isn't the bounty managers fault if an ICO turned out to be a scam but I'm just wishing there is something that can be done to teach them a lesson here that they should do their work properly.

If you didn't receive the payments as they agreed to pay,sure they need to be negged for that you need to provide the appropriate details like the conversation between you and the person who asked you to create the signatures.
Anyway as others said you need to go with escrows for your upcoming projects to avoid scam.

[btcltcdigger]

ICO failing shouldnt have anything to do with you not getting paid, unless you agreed to such terms.
As far as you are concerned, you delivered your service and should be compensated for it.

So IMHO manager who ordered the signature from you should pay you. I'm betting he sold your service to the customer at 2x price if not more

[digaran]

Anyway I'm just asking. And hoping that the ICO teams get negged. I know it isn't the bounty managers fault if an ICO turned out to be a scam but I'm just wishing there is something that can be done to teach them a lesson here that they should do their work properly.

Yes, they should get negged just because they didn't pay you but not because they scammed people, you are only worried that you didn't get your cut. do you even care if they scammed people? you've got some balls coming here asking DT members to tag them, they have already scammed and now are gone, tagging them is not going to change anything because most of them are low-rank accounts.

I'd say that nobody lowers the hero or legendary rank should be able to open a thread in altcoin sections, this way we could have something worthy to tag but even a legendary account is nothing compared to the money they can scam, we need their home addresses to make sure if they ever try to run with the money that we could at least have something on them.

[allahabadi]

Let this be a lesson, but your details are a bit hazy...

Whether it was a scam or not?

Whether they paid the BM or not?

Also post chats here; why shud we take your word over his.