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August 02, 2018, 10:52:40 AM
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Just a quick question... I noticed this user:  "bubble pop" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1114040)

He made this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4750303.msg43323810#msg43323810
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Mining on some cell phones is as of now accessible. Not very far in the past, a few cell phones were made, considering the mining highlights and they are presently being tried. There are likewise different applications that permit bitcoin and other cryptographic money to be mined, yet as of late they have been restricted on Android and IOS. Those applications that are left in general society space don`t bring adequate benefit and are for all intents and purposes pointless.

Directly above this post, user Direwolve735 made post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4750303.msg43323189#msg43323189
Mining on some smartphones is already available. Not so long ago, several smartphones were created, taking into account the mining features and they are now being tested. There are also various applications that allow bitcoin and other crypto currency to be mined, but recently they have been banned on Android and IOS. Those applications that are left in the public domain don`t bring sufficient profit and are practically useless.

At first sight, these posts look nothing alike, but upon some investigation, it looks like Direwolve735's post was run trough a synonym tool... (Allmost) every word in Direwolve735's original post was replaced by a synonym... Or am i hallucinating? I collored the synonyms in equal colors, and the same words in bold.

I haven't dug trough this user's other posts, so no idear if this was a one-time thing, or if he's systematically doing this.

Here's the archive of the original thread's page: https://web.archive.org/web/20180802105308/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4750303.180;topicseen

Is this ban-worthy or am i just seeing things that aren't there...

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August 02, 2018, 10:54:37 AM
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You are not crazy. There is a website that does this.

I'm on my phone rn, so if no one links it here, I'll get it and edit my post later.

Edit: here it is https://spinbot.com

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August 02, 2018, 10:58:07 AM
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You are not crazy. There is a website that does this.

I'm on my phone rn, so if no one links it here, I'll get it and edit my post later.

Thanks for the feedback Smiley
BTW... Seems like systematic abuse.. The first report was his very last post, this is the previous post he made... So at least the last 2 posts he created were plagiarised:
original: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4677867.msg43180375#msg43180375
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Most developers create a coin to make money for themselves, they do not care about the long term prospects of the coins they are creating, they only care about themselves this is why it is getting more common to hear people say things against icos since the developers and speculators are getting rich while everyone losses money and this is simply unsustainable.

plagiarised but with synonyms: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4677867.msg43186158#msg43186158
Most engineers make a coin to profit for themselves, they couldn't care less about the long haul prospects of the coins they are making, they just think about themselves this is the reason it is getting more typical to hear individuals say things against icos since the designers and theorists are getting rich while everybody misfortunes cash and this is essentially unsustainable.

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August 02, 2018, 10:59:06 AM
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You are not crazy. There is a website that does this.

I'm on my phone rn, so if no one links it here, I'll get it and edit my post later.
Article spinner  Grin

The name itself is self explanatory. Let me find you a link few links.

https://spinbot.com/
https://free-article-spinner.com/
http://www.bestfreespinner.com/
https://seotoolstation.com/free-online-article-spinner
https://sujoydhar.in/rewriter/
https://smallseotools.com/article-rewriter/

I would say more than plagiarism and they deserve double ban LOL


Let me play with spinning this:
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Most developers create a coin to make money for themselves, they do not care about the long term prospects of the coins they are creating, they only care about themselves this is why it is getting more common to hear people say things against icos since the developers and speculators are getting rich while everyone losses money and this is simply unsustainable.

Site: https://spinbot.com/
1st spin...
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Most designers make a coin to profit for themselves, they couldn't care less about the long haul prospects of the coins they are making, they just think about themselves this is the reason it is getting more typical to hear individuals say things against icos since the engineers and examiners are getting rich while everybody misfortunes cash and this is basically unsustainable.

2nd spin...
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Most engineers make a coin to profit for themselves, they couldn't care less about the long haul prospects of the coins they are making, they just think about themselves this is the reason it is getting more typical to hear individuals say things against icos since the designers and theorists are getting rich while everybody misfortunes cash and this is essentially unsustainable.

Site: https://free-article-spinner.com/
1st spin...
Quote
Most engineers make a coin to profit for themselves, they couldn't care less about the long haul prospects of the coins they are making, they just think about themselves this is the reason it is getting more typical to hear individuals say things against icos since the designers and theorists are getting rich while everybody misfortunes cash and this is essentially unsustainable.
Seems like same like the 2nd one of the first site...

2nd spin...
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Most engineers make a coin to profit for themselves, they couldn't care less about the long haul prospects of the coins they are making, they just think about themselves this is the reason it is getting more typical to hear individuals say things against icos since the designers and theorists are getting rich while everybody misfortunes cash and this is basically unsustainable.

You can keep going on with these tools...


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August 02, 2018, 11:20:58 AM
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Upon seeing your post I decided to Investigate this account and you are right this user is simply copy pasting and uses the maybe some of the tools above that was stated by  @mdayonliner. Great Catch tho. Here are some obvious proof of what this person has been doing plagiarism. This user deserves a perma ban.

Original Post:
I think every people right now has many option to sell their bitcoin and with those list, I am sure that they easily to choose the exchange and I think that exchanges is safe. but I think localbitcoin is the most place that bitcoin user use from the list because we can easily find local seller that have a good reputations in the site so we can choose them to sell the bitcoin. or maybe we can use another third party service from our friends which can help us to sell the bitcoin.



From bubble pop:
each correct presently has numerous choice to offer their bitcoin and with those rundown, I am certain that they effectively to pick the trade and I feel that trades is sheltered. in any case, I think localbitcoin is the most place that bitcoin client use from the rundown since we can undoubtedly discover nearby merchant that have a decent notorieties in the site so we can pick them to offer the bitcoin. or then again perhaps we can utilize another outsider administration from our companions which can assist us with selling the bitcoin.



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Most developers create a coin to make money for themselves, they do not care about the long term prospects of the coins they are creating, they only care about themselves this is why it is getting more common to hear people say things against icos since the developers and speculators are getting rich while everyone losses money and this is simply unsustainable.


Most engineers make a coin to profit for themselves, they couldn't care less about the long haul prospects of the coins they are making, they just think about themselves this is the reason it is getting more typical to hear individuals say things against icos since the designers and theorists are getting rich while everybody misfortunes cash and this is essentially unsustainable.


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In addition, not only in adoption but the people who used bitcoin is continuous increasing it may helps to keep crypto currency alive and kicking. Bitcoin will never die because this is created to help many people to make our life much better than before without bitcoin i think also that in the future those country who banned bitcoin will reverse their decision to adopt it to help their countrymen



Moreover, in appropriation as well as the general population who utilized bitcoin is ceaseless expanding it might keeps cryptographic money perfectly healthy. Bitcoin will never bite the dust since this is made to assist numerous individuals with making our life much better than anyone might have expected without bitcoin I think additionally that later on those nation who prohibited bitcoin will invert their choice to embrace it to help their comrades
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It seems that the user doesn't only used synonyms it has been also rephrasing some of the words or sentences.
This right here really annoys me a lot since the user copy one of the poster from the philippines and others might think that this idiot is a Filipino.
He even quoted the same reply from the original post.   Huh
Original Post:
I'm curious, how big are cryptos in your country? Are they still collectively referred to as bitcoin, or do news reports and local media actually dive into their merit and the difference between coins, projects, companies etc. I'm from Canada and most of the current news is wavering between reports of malware installing mining agents and the Canadian Security Exchange cracking down on ICO sales.

I am proud to say that my country Philippines slowly adapts the concept of bitcoin and blockchain. there are certain business establishments accepts bitcoin as there payment option and of course we also have exchanger here in the philippines, which is coins.ph which is running few years ago, and more than 1 million members. So happy for that, and as far as i know majority of friends knows bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

Have a great day mate., looking forward that every country could accept bitcoin.

Bubble pop's post:
I'm curious, how big are cryptos in your country? Are they still collectively referred to as bitcoin, or do news reports and local media actually dive into their merit and the difference between coins, projects, companies etc. I'm from Canada and most of the current news is wavering between reports of malware installing mining agents and the Canadian Security Exchange cracking down on ICO sales.
I am glad to state that my nation Philippines gradually adjusts the idea of bitcoin and blockchain. there are sure business foundations acknowledges bitcoin as there installment alternative and obviously we likewise have exchanger here in the philippines, which is coins.ph which is running couple of years back, and in excess of 1 million individuals. So glad for that, and to the extent I know greater part of companions knows bitcoin and cryptographic money.

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He sent merit to these two users that probably should be looked into:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1037934     roll on     June 20, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1098098     Bakugan August 07, 2017,

Those two have sent a lot out as well:

Merit summary for Bakugan

Merit: 28
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    July 29, 2018, 12:27:54 AM: 2 to Polar91 for LOCAL [ANN] Mfun - ⚡⚡ Disrupting the Digital Economy ⚡⚡
    May 20, 2018, 12:40:42 PM: 2 to Henry Sy for Re: Why people sell bitcoins?
    May 20, 2018, 12:39:42 PM: 1 to Gramna for Re: Do you like bitcoin, what's your reason?
    May 18, 2018, 10:18:55 AM: 1 to Gummybear67 for Re: Is holding bitcoin Greedy?
    May 18, 2018, 10:18:21 AM: 2 to Liza Soberano for Re: So Bitcoin is better than Gold?
    April 09, 2018, 01:35:40 AM: 1 to Red Fire for Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022?

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    June 15, 2018, 04:53:00 AM: 2 from stephanirain for Re: Bitcoin is useless
    June 09, 2018, 04:04:24 AM: 2 from Gummybear67 for Re: Is It advisable to quit my present job for bitcoin?
    June 01, 2018, 03:29:50 AM: 2 from Gummybear67 for Re: Bitcoin is Freedom
    April 28, 2018, 10:21:00 AM: 2 from Lomberjack for Re: Do you keep buying?
    April 27, 2018, 05:43:28 AM: 2 from Gandam23 for Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ?
    April 23, 2018, 01:43:17 AM: 2 from adjudicator for Re: Being a Smart Person or Strategic
    April 21, 2018, 09:48:50 AM: 2 from bubble pop for Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time?
    April 21, 2018, 09:19:11 AM: 2 from Kokoy for Re: Hotels accepting bitcoin
    April 09, 2018, 01:25:51 AM: 2 from android17 for Re: Bitcoin for Taxi


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947291     Polar91 January 25, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1150955     Henry Sy September 13, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1180246     Gramna October 01, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1039083     Gummybear67 June 21, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1040237     Liza Soberano     June 22, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1100115     Red Fire August 08, 2017,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=919012     stephanirain     November 13, 2016
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976046     LomberjackMarch 29, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=993175     Gandam23     April 30, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1103418     adjudicator     August 11, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1121902     Kokoy August 24, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1096070     android17 August 05, 2017

All except one account registered in 2017. If you check the merit that those accounts have sent there's a lot of the same names that keep popping up. Looks to be some serious merit abuse here along with possibly copy and pasting.

The username Kokoy rings a bell from something. 

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    June 02, 2018, 01:37:18 AM: 2 to empoy for Re: How did you first hear about bitcoin?
    June 01, 2018, 09:11:15 AM: 2 to android17 for Re: What impresses you the most about Bitcoin?
    June 01, 2018, 01:57:11 AM: 1 to Liza Soberano for Re: Mining on Mobile Phone
    May 31, 2018, 04:19:36 AM: 2 to Gummybear67 for Re: Will Ethereum eventually become an internet money?
    May 28, 2018, 03:17:52 AM: 2 to Gummybear67 for Re: What do you think about the people who don't like Bitcoin?
    May 27, 2018, 11:48:13 AM: 2 to oxidoreductase for Re: Is It advisable to quit my present job for bitcoin?
    May 27, 2018, 04:30:17 AM: 2 to lalunalaguna for Re: Is Bitcoin More Important Than Ethereum ?
    May 26, 2018, 03:52:52 PM: 2 to Rollex for Re: Is It advisable to quit my present job for bitcoin?
    May 25, 2018, 09:30:05 PM: 2 to Gagamboy for Re: Will bitcoin survive?
    May 24, 2018, 03:35:33 PM: 2 to Liza Soberano for Re: Mining on Mobile Phone
    May 23, 2018, 04:03:26 PM: 2 to Gummybear67 for Re: Bitcoin in the future
    May 21, 2018, 11:04:16 AM: 3 to Nhobita for Re: Is Bitcoin Volatility A Bad Thing?
    May 21, 2018, 03:40:50 AM: 2 to kukurikapu for Re: If i send my bitcoins to a wrong address, what happens?
    May 20, 2018, 12:30:37 PM: 1 to Henry Sy for Re: Being a Smart Person or Strategic
    May 20, 2018, 12:29:33 PM: 2 to Rollex for Re: is it risky to turn all my money to bitcoins?
    May 18, 2018, 10:04:49 AM: 2 to megatrix for Re: Do not invest in bitcoin if you don't know anything about it
    May 16, 2018, 06:48:16 AM: 2 to oxidoreductase for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
    May 15, 2018, 10:50:47 AM: 2 to inv_ker for Re: bitcoin sa pilipinas
    May 15, 2018, 10:49:08 AM: 2 to gokudera for Re: Am i late to buy bitcoin now ??
    May 10, 2018, 04:03:27 AM: 2 to Ad Baculum for Re: Bitcoin community is rising.
    May 06, 2018, 12:25:50 PM: 2 to solenn heussaff for Re: Reason why you should Buy bitcoin now
    May 05, 2018, 12:26:38 PM: 2 to insurgent for Re: Young people should go all in on bitcoin
    April 20, 2018, 08:56:42 AM: 3 to Star_Bucks for Re: Should Bitcoin even have a future?

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    April 28, 2018, 10:59:41 AM: 2 from agentx44 for Re: Ate you going to spend or save you bitcoin?
    April 28, 2018, 10:57:04 AM: 1 from Gumpfire for Re: plan for the future with bitcoin
    April 28, 2018, 10:41:20 AM: 1 from Magkirap for Re: Why did I lose on trade ??
    April 28, 2018, 10:36:40 AM: 3 from Kersh768 for Re: Other sections for this forum?
    April 28, 2018, 10:28:00 AM: 3 from Bowly88 for Re: Investing money on bitcoin..!
    April 28, 2018, 10:22:47 AM: 2 from Lomberjack for Re: BItcoin end or destroy in this month??
    April 27, 2018, 06:00:02 AM: 2 from solenn heussaff for Re: Paano kung ang bitcoin ay bumaba ? Magpapatuloy Kapa rin ba ?
    April 27, 2018, 05:51:04 AM: 3 from Spontebob for roll on
    April 27, 2018, 05:42:42 AM: 3 from Gandam23 for Re: Bitcoin is instant way to get rich ?
    April 26, 2018, 11:46:43 AM: 2 from Predator25 for Re: Who here lives on crypto currency daily?
    April 26, 2018, 11:41:04 AM: 2 from tamarindbleu for Re: What are the most common uses of Bitcoin?
    April 26, 2018, 11:36:26 AM: 3 from Scavagers for Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment
    April 26, 2018, 11:22:39 AM: 2 from Krispin47 for roll on
    April 26, 2018, 11:15:20 AM: 3 from sampalokmix for roll on
    April 26, 2018, 11:09:42 AM: 3 from assyla for Re: Being a Smart Person or Strategic
    April 26, 2018, 11:00:27 AM: 3 from unknown-user for Re: Do you think billionaires invest in BTC?
    April 23, 2018, 11:25:00 AM: 3 from JCO05 for Re: Good time to buy ETH now?
    April 23, 2018, 11:19:57 AM: 2 from Pepito Manaloto for Re: How to make money in cryptocurrencies?
    April 23, 2018, 10:08:29 AM: 3 from dobladi for Re: Do you save bitcoin for fun or for future purpose?
    April 23, 2018, 05:11:43 AM: 2 from devil jin for Re: What Is Your Bitcoin Dream?
    April 23, 2018, 05:04:50 AM: 3 from Sand King for Re: How to Make Money in Crypto
    April 23, 2018, 01:57:18 AM: 3 from Chooroz for Re: You should never trust banks
    April 23, 2018, 01:51:49 AM: 2 from Kurokonobasuke for Re: Nag dump ang bitcoin ngayon, tuloy tuloy na ba ang pagbagsak?
    April 23, 2018, 01:42:37 AM: 2 from adjudicator for Re: Newbie Welcome Thread
    April 21, 2018, 09:50:42 AM: 3 from icecream sandwich for Re: plan for the future with bitcoin
    April 21, 2018, 09:48:13 AM: 3 from bubble pop for Re: Hanggang san nyo tingin na bababa si bitcoin?
    April 21, 2018, 09:40:30 AM: 3 from Oppang Inamo for Re: Hanggang san nyo tingin na bababa si bitcoin?
    April 21, 2018, 09:06:43 AM: 3 from Apple Mac for Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular?
    April 20, 2018, 09:46:56 AM: 2 from Watashi Yamashita for Re: What wallets do you use?
    April 20, 2018, 09:43:57 AM: 2 from Jupeter for Re: bitcoin now slowly drop should i sell?
    April 20, 2018, 09:39:38 AM: 2 from zhopas for Re: Is this the time to buy Bitcoin
    April 20, 2018, 09:37:15 AM: 2 from Gondwanaland for Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular?
    April 20, 2018, 09:22:00 AM: 2 from P60 for Re: Invest in altcoin still worth?
    April 20, 2018, 09:12:33 AM: 2 from Specialforce for Re: Why use Bitcoins ?
    April 20, 2018, 09:11:11 AM: 2 from Wish 107.5 for Re: Why did I lose on trade ??
    April 20, 2018, 09:09:37 AM: 2 from Gladiator25 for Re: Day trade or Hodling
    April 20, 2018, 08:55:06 AM: 3 from joganuts for Re: BitCoin 20 Years From Now
    April 09, 2018, 01:08:28 AM: 1 from Yudai for Re: BitCoin 20 Years From Now

Not checked them all yet but the first received merit are all from uses registered days apart:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=971414 agentx44     March 19, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=971955     Gumpfire     March 20, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=962889 Magkirap March 01, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=973462     Kersh768 March 23, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=975077     Bowly88     March 27, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976046     Lomberjack March 29, 2017

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The 2016 account stephanirain clearly is involved as they've merited all users that are found above:

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July 23, 2018, 01:30:31 PM: 2 to Henry Sy for Re: Cryptocurrency is a trending topic all over the world?
July 17, 2018, 03:13:21 AM: 2 to Polar91 for LOCAL [ANN][ICO] KUBITX - Cryptocurrency Exchange & Trading Platform
July 08, 2018, 10:48:52 AM: 2 to android17 for Re: My small advice about crypto market
July 06, 2018, 12:30:48 PM: 2 to Henry Sy for Re: Why are you selling your altcoins so soon?
June 24, 2018, 03:20:42 AM: 2 to Polar91 for LOCAL [ANN]StealthCrypto - Quantum Mesh Network [BOUNTYHIVE]
June 15, 2018, 04:53:00 AM: 2 to Bakugan for Re: Bitcoin is useless
June 11, 2018, 06:23:49 AM: 1 to insurgent for Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins

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Yes, this deserves a ban. As @mdayonliner, they used article spinner. This tools are mainly used by shady SEO guys, to plagiarize content because Google loves to give link juices for unique contents. However, looks like spammers is exploiting this tools and using it here. Those spammers are really evolving as well, not only they used homographs, but now are spinning someone's post, this is still  plagiarism though. Nice catch.

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coppy pating post just ony use somthing color and front  syatem
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631891.msg42637240#msg42637240
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631891.msg42715076#msg42715076
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You can get paid by posting here, what did you expect? ban them all but they will come back again if jr members are mostly the ones doing this then we should consider banning them from wearing any signatures.

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August 03, 2018, 08:27:27 PM
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You can check this topic too:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3962537.0
It seems that it's not enough now to change a few words in a sentence for the spammers, they need to replace (mostly) all of the words with synonyms, in order to escape the report in the copypaster topic....
We would really need a kind of AI to check the spammy posts in the forum, but I hope that the reporting badge will also help...

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August 04, 2018, 04:36:27 AM
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If we report these posts, will they be deleted and the user eventually banned? I reported a user the other day that spun an article and posted it here as his own, but I have yet to see any action against the user or the post.

I know that plagiarists are swiftly dealt with, but what about article spinners? How should we report them?

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If we report these posts, will they be deleted and the user eventually banned? I reported a user the other day that spun an article and posted it here as his own, but I have yet to see any action against the user or the post.

I know that plagiarists are swiftly dealt with, but what about article spinners? How should we report them?

The user was unbanned since he had added the original source in his post, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4805466.0

As far as I know users who spun articles are also dealt swifty and permabanned, they're worse than the copy/pasters, trying to conceal. I usually report them as "text spinning" and do verify such posts using spinbot, "text spinning/verified using spinbot".

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August 04, 2018, 08:56:44 PM
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If we report these posts, will they be deleted and the user eventually banned? I reported a user the other day that spun an article and posted it here as his own, but I have yet to see any action against the user or the post.
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If you reported it with the report to moderator button and you have at least 300 good reports, you can check your report if it has been checked by a moderator or not. If it's unhandled, but the other reports you made after are already processed, you can see that moderators are thinking / checking for things about that post.
If you just made a post in the copypaste topic, maybe mods need more time to deal with it.

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