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August 03, 2018, 04:59:01 PM
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Hi,
I'm new here, I try to do a rig with :
windows 10 pro 64bits,
ASrock H110 Pro BTC+,
13 gpu Nvidia 1070 msi,
celeron cpu g3900 2.80Ghz
alim 1000watt and 2000watt
4Go ddr
13 pci, 13 cables...

But I can't add more than 8 gpu, the 9th is not reconized....
in "peripheral manager" i have only 8 nvidia.

After all my research 13 gpu nvidia on windows is possible, since the "windows fall update" and the last Nvidia drivers.(ref links below.)

for overlock look like Afterburner block to 8 gpu, but not NVIDIA Inspector.
so I uninstall Afterburner.
set virtual memory set to 16000go (dont know if it help)

For now I run perfectly only 8 gpu because only 8 is reconized by windows.
with the last Windows update (we are the 3 august 2018) and nvidia drivers 398.82-desktop-win10-64bit


ref :
Asrock H110 Pro BTC+ 13GPU (Windows)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0adcRf1rVCo

13x1080TI Windows 10 - 1709
https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/13x1080ti-windows-10-1709.17184/

Trying Out the AsRock H110 Pro BTC+ With 13x GTX 1070
https://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/asrock-h110-pro-btc/

ASrock H110 Pro BTC+ with 13 gpu, which cpu is enough?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2255785.0

(for the record 13 gpu is easy with linux, maybe Ubuntu, but i dont know how to use it, and i want keep Windows it's more easy for me.)
(for the record 13 gpu on Windows can also be archive with 8xAmd +5xNvidia or reverse as long is a different manufacturer, but i want use 13x1070 Nvidia)

Thank for your help !
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August 03, 2018, 07:13:35 PM
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Make sure Windows 10 is v1709 if it's anything prior to "Fall creators update" it wont see all 13 GPUs. Ensure the latest drivers(which it seems you have). Additionally make sure Asrock BIOs is set correct to enable 4G Decoding, and set every PCI-E lane to "GEN2". if all that still doesnt get you 9 GPUs then check the risers you are using, trying a different riser or different PCI-E slot.
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August 03, 2018, 07:14:54 PM
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your cpu is too inferior to handle 13 gpus
at least get an i3 for this kind of mining rig
i ran 10 gpus with g4400 and at times it became too unstable until i upgraded to i3
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August 03, 2018, 09:34:25 PM
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4 gb ddr 3 and most cheaped celeron processor.


(for the record 13 gpu is easy with linux, maybe Ubuntu, but i dont know how to use it, and i want keep Windows it's more easy for me.)
Just use HIVEOS, double click install (hdd raw copy tool for write image on flash or small ssd (i use 32gb m.2)) - much more easiest then windows.

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August 04, 2018, 05:16:36 PM
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Make sure Windows 10 is v1709 if it's anything prior to "Fall creators update" it wont see all 13 GPUs. Ensure the latest drivers(which it seems you have). Additionally make sure Asrock BIOs is set correct to enable 4G Decoding, and set every PCI-E lane to "GEN2". if all that still doesnt get you 9 GPUs then check the risers you are using, trying a different riser or different PCI-E slot.


Thank you everyone for your help.

windows : I have version 1803 (os build 17134.191) 2018 (win 10 pro 64bits)

cpu: i think you right "cpu celeron g3900 2.80Ghz" is maybe too low, if i have a perfomance drop i will change.

HIVEOS: is interesting, but i will try to keep Windows, more easy for me.

bios 4G decoding : i dont know what is it, but look like "Above 4GB MMIO BIOS assignment" was ENABLED by default. (check the pic below)

the answser is !
bios PCI-E to "GEN2" : on asrock motherbord is auto by default, i changed it to "GEN2" and my 9th gpu is reconized.

to show you the setting for the asrock motherboard. (this screenshot is not mine)
https://forexprofessional.ru/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/63b5cd24db8e4ba6f08e10ef1809a1ea.jpg
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This done, now my windows10 can see more than 8 gpu !
BUT my mining apps doesn't work anymore ... !!

For exemple :
Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred_Siacoin_Lbry_Pascal_Blake2s_Keccak AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.9 - Catalyst 15.12-18.x - CUDA 8.0_9.1_7.5_6.5
(worked well before with 8 gpu).
now, close automaticly after the 2nd line :
"ETH: 7 pools are specified"
"Main Ethereum pool is ..."
and close
claymore should check "AMD OpenCL platform ..." and after Nvidia

(same for ethminer)

I try to disconnect 1 gpu, back to my 8 gpu, but still not working...

I try reinstall the old Nvidia drivers 388.13, or 391.24, and reinstall 398.82-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe
nothing work,

maybe i should not change all the bios PCI-E to "GEN2" ?
but which one ?

Help me little more please Smiley
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August 04, 2018, 05:22:05 PM
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HIVEOS: is interesting, but i will try to keep Windows, more easy for me.

Help me little more please Smiley


If it so easy make it by yourself. Seems like a stupid idiot there.

I say you one more time - using hiveos not needed any knowledge of linux.

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August 04, 2018, 05:27:00 PM
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Never heard someone can run 13 GPU with Windows OS. I think it is better to switch on Linux OS because I heard someone success to run 13 GPU.

Check this article https://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/13-gpu-mining-rig/
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August 04, 2018, 05:38:07 PM
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Never heard someone can run 13 GPU with Windows OS. I think it is better to switch on Linux OS because I heard someone success to run 13 GPU.

Check this article https://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/13-gpu-mining-rig/

It's quite easy to run 13 GPUs on Windows since the 1700+ update. Simply plug in your GPUs into a 13-GPU compatible motherboard and then install the drivers. It's actually that simple. What i would consider toxic is running a 19-GPU setup using the ASUS B250 motherboard.

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August 04, 2018, 05:56:23 PM
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Impossible to Run more than 8 NVIDIA on Windows. You can use 13 AMD, or a mixed 8 NVIDIA+5amd.
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August 04, 2018, 06:10:28 PM
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Never heard someone can run 13 GPU with Windows OS. I think it is better to switch on Linux OS because I heard someone success to run 13 GPU.

Check this article https://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/13-gpu-mining-rig/

It's quite easy to run 13 GPUs on Windows since the 1700+ update. Simply plug in your GPUs into a 13-GPU compatible motherboard and then install the drivers. It's actually that simple. What i would consider toxic is running a 19-GPU setup using the ASUS B250 motherboard.
Please read the article first.
It only works if you only run with 8 Nvidia and 5 for AMD based on the article. I never heard someone can reach 8+ Nvidia GPU with Windows OS but in Linux you can run them all with 13 Nvidia GPU's and other OS like EthOS can also run 13 Nvidia GPU's based on what I heard.
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August 04, 2018, 06:11:44 PM
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Give it a try to Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB, you would be amazed at that version of Windows stability and I think it will run more than 8 cards, however Windows has no limitation, your limitation is only your motherboard. Windows will use all your PCIE slots of your motherboard. The limitation is in the graphic driver from Nvidia or ATI.

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August 05, 2018, 08:44:10 AM
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Never heard someone can run 13 GPU with Windows OS. I think it is better to switch on Linux OS because I heard someone success to run 13 GPU.

Check this article https://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/13-gpu-mining-rig/

It's quite easy to run 13 GPUs on Windows since the 1700+ update. Simply plug in your GPUs into a 13-GPU compatible motherboard and then install the drivers. It's actually that simple. What i would consider toxic is running a 19-GPU setup using the ASUS B250 motherboard.
Please read the article first.
It only works if you only run with 8 Nvidia and 5 for AMD based on the article. I never heard someone can reach 8+ Nvidia GPU with Windows OS but in Linux you can run them all with 13 Nvidia GPU's and other OS like EthOS can also run 13 Nvidia GPU's based on what I heard.
the fact that you've never heard of it doesn't mean that it's not possible. your info is outdated, I have several rigs with 10-12 NVIDIA GPUs that work just fine. also I have a 19-GPU rig with 11 AMDs and 8 P104-100s. there is really nothing special here.
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August 05, 2018, 09:11:00 AM
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Windows patch released months ago and there are people thinking you cannot install more than 8gpu on windows yet? wow.

Btw.. windows working great with 13gpus. We have to talk about it again and again
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August 05, 2018, 10:53:13 AM
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I also don't like how people lie that the cpu is not fast enough and you can't run 13 nvidia gpu and stuff. Why the lies?
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August 05, 2018, 11:42:43 AM
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I switched the bios PCIE "GEN 2" to "auto", that mean i get back to the original settings for the motherboard, and my 9th gpu is recognized.
but my miner apps are still not working ? : (

maybe a nvidia driver trouble  ?

cpu: as i said before, you right maybe this cpu is too low for 13 gpu, (i can change later) but my trouble now is to run the 9th gpu..
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August 05, 2018, 12:50:34 PM
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Give it a try to Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB, you would be amazed at that version of Windows stability and I think it will run more than 8 cards, however Windows has no limitation, your limitation is only your motherboard. Windows will use all your PCIE slots of your motherboard. The limitation is in the graphic driver from Nvidia or ATI.

Windows 10 LTSB does not support more than 8 cards, unfortunately. I've tried it myself it doesn't have the creators update which allows windows to see 8+ GPUs.

If Claymore isn't working it's not the GEN2 setting. CPU isn't a problem either I run multiple 13 GPU Rigs in Windows mix of G3930/G4400 on H110 PRO BTC 4GB RAM. There is no need for i3 at all.
It looks like you have a ton of pools, it says 7 pools. Try seeing if just one pool works using the batchfile.


Try putting this in your Batchfile in claymore right after Ethminer


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August 05, 2018, 07:19:22 PM
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set you swap to 66GB, miner sw does not create dag on disk anymore, but windows still can't work stable with that many gpus with small swap file, i don't know why and definitely it is windows bug not being able to set correct swap automatically
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August 05, 2018, 10:27:14 PM
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i am buy china motherboard with supply 13 GPU. Working stable.
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August 06, 2018, 12:03:29 AM
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Hi, Thank you, my friends for your help ! it's really appreciate.
I finally succeed...

The answer is not easy to explain, but to be simple :
- shutdown
- unplug all cards
- run the computer (with the graphic output from the motherboard)
- completely reinstall windows 10,
   from the menu update&security/recovery/Reset this pc
   (so i have a fresh & clean new windows10 up to date, without my apps or settings)
- shutdown
- plug only 1 graphic card
- reboot
- let windows install the drivers
- reboot
- try to run mining apps, (it work great)
- shutdown
- plug the others cards
- reboot
- let windows install the other cards (long time)
- set the virtual memory to 32000-64000 GB
- reboot
- try to run mining apps, (it work great with all 9 gpu)
- i try to reinstall "Afterburner 450", and surprise it work great, overclock my gpu, very easy.

now i can add my other cards to go to 13gpu nvidia 1070,

what we can learn from this:
- if something don't work and we don't know why : FORMAT C:/ and completly reinstall windows...
- to control, it's better to use the graphic chip from the motherboard, to avoid losing graphic power when mining
  on asrock in bios enable the option "IGPU Multi monitor" "keep the graphic chip from the motherboard active even if external graphic is pluged"
- in asrock bios, pci-e to "auto" is ok, "GEN2" is not necesary,
- if mining apps don't work, like claymore or ethminer, you can still use something else like zcash,

yes, evlo, as you said, set the swap to 66GB it's a good idea




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