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August 07, 2018, 08:40:02 PM
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I guess you could still teach and guide someone who is interested in gambling about the games you played in the casino, but it would be better to tell them it is better to treat gambling as a form of entertainment rather than hoping to get rich from gambling overnight, as it could result in serious consequences if they got themselves addicted to gambling.

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August 07, 2018, 08:40:54 PM
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You can ruin someone's life actually
You never know how addicted he will get

This is exactly what I thought.

You can introduce it to them, but you also should properly disclaim the dangers of gambling and what can come with it.
If I introduced someone to gambling and they became addicted and ruined their life, I would feel awful.

Truthfully OP, I think it is the wrong idea to try and convince people to enjoy gambling. Gambling can be fun, I'm sure it would be easy to convince them. But they do have the chance of ruining their life and blaming you for it, then you having to carry that weight with you...
You wont able to avoid the feeling of guilt when you do saw someone suffering because of the consequences he do able to get with gambling addiction and at first place you are the ones who do try to tell him about how gambling is enjoyable. You might not expect it but all people do have the chance to get addicted right away. You should remind him at first on the possible risk so that you wont really able to carry the weight when theres something happen to him.

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August 07, 2018, 11:36:16 PM
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It is not good to make an user get into gambling until he or she has got own willing to experiment the truth behind gambling. One should not force an user to get into gambling. Out of interest if someone asks about the aspects and the way to be a part of gambling it is good to show the right way.
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August 08, 2018, 07:45:19 AM
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But somehow even if you already warned them but they still become addicted I still feel thay 50% of that is the fault of the one that teach them gambling
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Gambling is such a common thing that you can't actually blame yourself for teaching it. Firstly, it's not a big secret. Secondly, it's not rocket science. If it wasn't you who "taught" someone how to gamble, then it would be another person, a site, a video on YouTube, a movie, a book etc. Instead of blaming ourselves we should rather concentrate on promoting healthy ways of gambling so that people were not ruining their lives with it.

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August 08, 2018, 07:51:10 AM
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But somehow even if you already warned them but they still become addicted I still feel thay 50% of that is the fault of the one that teach them gambling
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Gambling is such a common thing that you can't actually blame yourself for teaching it. Firstly, it's not a big secret. Secondly, it's not rocket science. If it wasn't you who "taught" someone how to gamble, then it would be another person, a site, a video on YouTube, a movie, a book etc. Instead of blaming ourselves we should rather concentrate on promoting healthy ways of gambling so that people were not ruining their lives with it.
Teaching is different from convincing,if we are teaching about gambling and where to gamble is okay but convincing them to do is equals to ruining their life because actually we are forcing them to do that,since we know that gambling is highly addictive.
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August 08, 2018, 08:13:40 AM
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It depends mostly on two things: 1. Your salary, or an amount of money in your possession; 2. The total amount spent on gambling (let's consider the situation when your profit is negative). If after three years of gambling your total loss is less than your current monthly salary, you shouldn't be upset about your loss as long as you were having fun playing. But if you are upset still, then you should consider gambling less or not gambling at all. It's no rocket science to figure out whether fun worth the money or not. If gambling helps you to relax and more easily manage the stress of life, then it's probably worth it. Yet, like with any remedy, you shouldn't abuse it.
I get where you're coming from. "You gotta pay." basically. Having your reputation ruined for being a gambler and losing money from gambling is just not worth the "fun" in my opinion. Other forms of entertainment can be a source of a better physical health (prolongs life), can be a bonding time for you and your family (promotes a healthy relationship for the family which is very important), and it wouldn't cost as much.

Where did the 3 years came from by the way?

It is not good to make an user get into gambling until he or she has got own willing to experiment the truth behind gambling. One should not force an user to get into gambling. Out of interest if someone asks about the aspects and the way to be a part of gambling it is good to show the right way.
But this thread is not about getting people into gambling. It's not about forcing them at all. OP is actually worried that the people that are asking him about gambling might get addicted to it so he's hesitant.

After I read all of the comment I got a better sight, I found out that most of the comment said that its okay to teach them but you need to remind them the danger and the consequences, but still when they got addicted I think most of the people will still blame the one that teach
There really is no point in blaming the person who taught the person how to gamble. Eventually, he will find someone else to teach him or he can just self-teach. Google is just out there. Honestly I don't even understand the need to ask a specific person to teach you how to gamble when the information is out there on the Internet. Why disturb someone for something you can do by yourself? Nevertheless, it's the person who got addicted to gambling who's at fault since no one forced them to gamble anyway. Why blame the person who taught him when he only helped him initially? He was the one to asked, the person who taught him was just being helpful.

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August 08, 2018, 08:27:26 AM
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So in one my hand I'd like people to enjoy gambling but in one hand I afraid it can turned into disaster and I could the person that cause the person become addicted, so I kind of confused when someone come and asked me to teach or explained thing about gambling, should I teach them or I just ignore them? How can I teach or convince them that gambling is only for fun? Is it a wrong idea to teach or convince them to gamble for fun?

Why would you teach them that gambling is meant for fun? What's the purpose? For them not to be addicted? It's really not making sense for me.

People have different working minds to know what things to be done. If someone asked you what is gambling then just simple give your interpretation on it. Giving them a warning is fine but in the end, they are the one who will handled your response. Even you say that they must gambled for fun, I doubt they will really follow because we have different approach in doing gambling.

Let them gambled the way they want after you respond to them your gambling thoughts together with the risks of doing it. If some of them become wrecked along the way then you are not the one who is responsible why they became like that. Up to you to help them now how will they recovered.

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August 08, 2018, 08:59:32 AM
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I always have a mindset that gambling is fun and entertaining, I used to played for profit but now I played for entertained myself, I like to share my point of view about gambling, but I afraid when I introduce gambling to someone who cant control himself or herself then it can become a problem, and I can become the one that make him/her become addicted

So in one my hand I'd like people to enjoy gambling but in one hand I afraid it can turned into disaster and I could the person that cause the person become addicted, so I kind of confused when someone come and asked me to teach or explained thing about gambling, should I teach them or I just ignore them? How can I teach or convince them that gambling is only for fun? Is it a wrong idea to teach or convince them to gamble for fun?
In the sense of teaching, we can teach great things to someone specially if you see the person that has a potential to become like you. But destiny is so persistent to test everyone with what they were capable of and your only guide is through your teaching to someone and the rest is up to them on which path would they like to choose.

We can't force someone to do what do you like but you can guide them as their master.

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August 08, 2018, 10:55:25 AM
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I guess you could still teach and guide someone who is interested in gambling about the games you played in the casino, but it would be better to tell them it is better to treat gambling as a form of entertainment rather than hoping to get rich from gambling overnight, as it could result in serious consequences if they got themselves addicted to gambling.
I agree with you, just for entertainment.
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August 09, 2018, 08:44:35 AM
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It depends mostly on two things: 1. Your salary, or an amount of money in your possession; 2. The total amount spent on gambling (let's consider the situation when your profit is negative). If after three years of gambling your total loss is less than your current monthly salary, you shouldn't be upset about your loss as long as you were having fun playing. But if you are upset still, then you should consider gambling less or not gambling at all. It's no rocket science to figure out whether fun worth the money or not. If gambling helps you to relax and more easily manage the stress of life, then it's probably worth it. Yet, like with any remedy, you shouldn't abuse it.
I get where you're coming from. "You gotta pay." basically. Having your reputation ruined for being a gambler and losing money from gambling is just not worth the "fun" in my opinion. Other forms of entertainment can be a source of a better physical health (prolongs life), can be a bonding time for you and your family (promotes a healthy relationship for the family which is very important), and it wouldn't cost as much.

The thing is that people are different, what is good for some is bad for others. You are right in theory. Indeed, it is better to go hiking with your family instead of gambling online. But in reality, some people don't have a family, others live in such places that hiking is not an option. And for some people hiking with their family would be more stressful experience than their regular job from which they supposedly should be relaxing.

Where did the 3 years came from by the way?

I think at this point most online gamblers have over 3 years of the experience, so they can relate to the notion. I mean, the longer time span the better for any research, but maybe there are not much people who gamble online over 10 years.


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August 09, 2018, 09:17:51 AM
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But somehow even if you already warned them but they still become addicted I still feel thay 50% of that is the fault of the one that teach them gambling
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Gambling is such a common thing that you can't actually blame yourself for teaching it. Firstly, it's not a big secret. Secondly, it's not rocket science. If it wasn't you who "taught" someone how to gamble, then it would be another person, a site, a video on YouTube, a movie, a book etc. Instead of blaming ourselves we should rather concentrate on promoting healthy ways of gambling so that people were not ruining their lives with it.
Teaching is different from convincing,if we are teaching about gambling and where to gamble is okay but convincing them to do is equals to ruining their life because actually we are forcing them to do that,since we know that gambling is highly addictive.

You are right, teaching and convincing are different. Teaching is like teach a person that really new about gambling, for example like if you bet on sports, you must be confuse at the first, what is over/under, odds, handicap and many else.

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August 09, 2018, 09:19:51 AM
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I always have a mindset that gambling is fun and entertaining, I used to played for profit but now I played for entertained myself, I like to share my point of view about gambling, but I afraid when I introduce gambling to someone who cant control himself or herself then it can become a problem, and I can become the one that make him/her become addicted

So in one my hand I'd like people to enjoy gambling but in one hand I afraid it can turned into disaster and I could the person that cause the person become addicted, so I kind of confused when someone come and asked me to teach or explained thing about gambling, should I teach them or I just ignore them? How can I teach or convince them that gambling is only for fun? Is it a wrong idea to teach or convince them to gamble for fun?
I don't think , it is any wrong idea , but if the person who is in front of you and don't want any type of suggestion of idea to share by you with him regarding gambling , then surely it will be wrong step by you.
But if the person is asking about gambling to you then it will not be wrong work at any side .
But surely you need to explain them that how to keep himself safe from gambling and also safe from gambling scam sites ( because many gambling sites are available to steal our money i.e give better suggestion of the gambling sites like cloudbet nitrogensports.eu etc ) . And also you will needed to tell him accurately that he should be explained by you that how we can control ourself from gambling and also we should remain in control to enjoy the gambling as fun purpose with small amount of bets .
So if you will explain him/her perfectly in real way , then it will be better job , otherwise if you will tell him things indirectly then I don't think that you will be right at your place .
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August 09, 2018, 01:33:16 PM
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I don’t think it is your responsibility to teach them about gambling because if you teach someone who is not interested in gambling then it would serve no purpose because in the first place they are not interested right? Only teach those who have somewhat background in gambling like casinos or something like that then they’d be interested on gambling too and that’s where you come in.
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August 09, 2018, 01:38:04 PM
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It is all based on the people who have invest on gambling site. I see the people invested on gambling and made money at the same people invest on ICO and trading by loosing the money. Please go with the good gambling sites especially betting would be the nice option. I go with betting site and make investment much in ideal way. People always be greedy while they invest on gambling platform. They want to triple the money. Instead of that they can look around the best team or player who will win for sure. That idea will work without any loose in your gambling career.
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August 09, 2018, 01:48:05 PM
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Yes, why? Because you already know that gambling can you him addicted on it that can turn him into worst situation. Greediness can make a person to lose everything you know that. So, yes convincing people to enjoy gambling is wrong.

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August 10, 2018, 12:50:00 AM
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I don’t think it is your responsibility to teach them about gambling because if you teach someone who is not interested in gambling then it would serve no purpose because in the first place they are not interested right? Only teach those who have somewhat background in gambling like casinos or something like that then they’d be interested on gambling too and that’s where you come in.

OP already stated that it was his friend that is asking him to tach him to gamble. Also what you said kinda not makes sense. Teaching someone can not result into addiction.
In some other scenario if your teacher taught you to make crochet, would that make you addicted into creating crochet? No? Because you being addicted is because you chose to be addicted. It's not the teachers fault.


It is all based on the people who have invest on gambling site. I see the people invested on gambling and made money at the same people invest on ICO and trading by loosing the money. Please go with the good gambling sites especially betting would be the nice option. I go with betting site and make investment much in ideal way. People always be greedy while they invest on gambling platform. They want to triple the money. Instead of that they can look around the best team or player who will win for sure. That idea will work without any loose in your gambling career.

I understand why you would suggest that investing in ICOs are somewhat the same when people uses their money in gambling. Both ICOs and gambling have their own risks but I think that it's riskier to put your money on the latter. At least in a successful ICO, you are guaranteed to get profit, that is if you know which ICO to put your money. Gambling on the other hand is a game of luck. The chance of taking home a profit is 50-50 and maybe even lower.
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August 10, 2018, 07:58:15 AM
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I always have a mindset that gambling is fun and entertaining, I used to played for profit but now I played for entertained myself, I like to share my point of view about gambling, but I afraid when I introduce gambling to someone who cant control himself or herself then it can become a problem, and I can become the one that make him/her become addicted

So in one my hand I'd like people to enjoy gambling but in one hand I afraid it can turned into disaster and I could the person that cause the person become addicted, so I kind of confused when someone come and asked me to teach or explained thing about gambling, should I teach them or I just ignore them? How can I teach or convince them that gambling is only for fun? Is it a wrong idea to teach or convince them to gamble for fun?

Its totally not your fault if someone gets addicted because you show them the world of gambling. I have been in that situation before, well not in gambling but always the same situation. I alway tells them that is not my fault because he/she can makes the final decision and not mine. And I'm not even bother because my conscience is clear. If you will have to blame someone, blame the person itself, if he/she lost his/her emotions and decision making, simple as that.

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August 10, 2018, 09:20:03 AM
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Yes, why? Because you already know that gambling can you him addicted on it that can turn him into worst situation. Greediness can make a person to lose everything you know that. So, yes convincing people to enjoy gambling is wrong.

If a person is not interested in gambling then convincing those people is a wrong but if someone asks you about gambling then nothing wrong in telling both good and bad about gambling or teaching some games if you know the tricks to play the game. But at the end, you should do your part saying that gambling is not for making but just for fun and if addict then it may lead to the worst situation and the final decision let them take because if you don't teach them then they may approach to another person.
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August 10, 2018, 12:15:29 PM
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In my opinion, you cannot do anything about that anymore and that is out of your control. It’s the persons personal agenda now and people who have tried something that they had fun and want to continue might have some problems in the future. It’s not wrong to teach them the right thing but it’s up to them to do what is right.

But at some point it may also backfire to OP. Why? Let's say he/she did introduce gambling to his/her friend/s, family and/or relative/s. Yes, it will surely not in OP's control but the fact that he is like the initiator of it, once, this person did or encounter some problems in the future, it's possible that the blame will be dropped on OP. Though, I'm not saying it will only be on OP, This person did the most out of it so most likely the rest of what he/she did is all on him/her.

In my opinion, Since you OP know the risk about the industry, It's safe if you just explain (convincing is quite complex) it to them but to teach, I guess just pass on it. I'm not saying to be selfish but It's the best thing not only for you but also to those who asked you about it. Though this come in case to case basis, I just look at it as if that person is just starting and wanted to try gambling.
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The thing is that people are different, what is good for some is bad for others. You are right in theory. Indeed, it is better to go hiking with your family instead of gambling online. But in reality, some people don't have a family, others live in such places that hiking is not an option. And for some people hiking with their family would be more stressful experience than their regular job from which they supposedly should be relaxing.
I get that and sometimes you just don't want to go home because work has become the new "home" to you and your house is just a place where you're constantly being pressured and annoyed by the people you are supposed to love. I guess if you do have that, you should go out with friends instead which you can filter. We were born with certain family members and you can never change that fact for the rest of your life. Friends, on the other hand, you can choose who you want to befriend. Choose someone that destresses you or helps you relax more.

I think at this point most online gamblers have over 3 years of the experience, so they can relate to the notion. I mean, the longer time span the better for any research, but maybe there are not much people who gamble online over 10 years.
Alright, I was just wondering where it came from since it was just mentioned with no explanation. Just for clarification.

In my opinion, you cannot do anything about that anymore and that is out of your control. It’s the persons personal agenda now and people who have tried something that they had fun and want to continue might have some problems in the future. It’s not wrong to teach them the right thing but it’s up to them to do what is right.

But at some point it may also backfire to OP. Why? Let's say he/she did introduce gambling to his/her friend/s, family and/or relative/s. Yes, it will surely not in OP's control but the fact that he is like the initiator of it, once, this person did or encounter some problems in the future, it's possible that the blame will be dropped on OP. Though, I'm not saying it will only be on OP, This person did the most out of it so most likely the rest of what he/she did is all on him/her.

In my opinion, Since you OP know the risk about the industry, It's safe if you just explain (convincing is quite complex) it to them but to teach, I guess just pass on it. I'm not saying to be selfish but It's the best thing not only for you but also to those who asked you about it. Though this come in case to case basis, I just look at it as if that person is just starting and wanted to try gambling.
With or without OP's help, the person will still learn how to gamble because the information is out in the open. It's not like gambling is so secret that people have to pass on the knowledge to you so there really is no point in blaming who started it. Who's to blame is the person who continued it which is the person who asked how to gamble. But honestly, people really do think like that. People are blaming those who taught you something and they will forever be to blame (for people) since you can never change the fact that you were the one who taught him. That's why if you don't want any of the stress, just pass on it. You're not getting any benefits from teaching someone how to gamble anyway even when let's say they are going to register under your referral link, it's not worth it.

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