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October 15, 2011, 02:00:05 PM
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"The biggest indicator for success in America is not a level of merit or hard work, but the amount of wealth inherited from family members", says Samuel Bowles, an economist at the Sante Fe institute.

Debate.
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October 15, 2011, 02:33:24 PM
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Not much to debate. It's true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_mobility#Upward_and_downward_mobility

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In 2005, The Economist wrote that

    evidence from social scientists suggests that American society is much "stickier" than most Americans assume. Some researchers claim that social mobility is actually declining.[4]

A CAP study of 2006 found that:

    By international standards, the United States has an unusually low level of intergenerational mobility… Among high-income countries for which comparable estimates are available, only the United Kingdom had a lower rate of mobility than the United States.
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October 15, 2011, 07:45:48 PM
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"The biggest indicator for success in America is not a level of merit or hard work, but the amount of wealth inherited from family members", says Samuel Bowles, an economist at the Sante Fe institute.

Debate.

What is there to debate? This is 100% true. The higher your starting social class is, the slightly better odds you have of doing a bit better than your parents, but for the most part you will probably make the same amount or less than you parents in the states
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October 15, 2011, 08:03:19 PM
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"The biggest indicator for success in America is not a level of merit or hard work, but the amount of wealth inherited from family members", says Samuel Bowles, an economist at the Sante Fe institute.

Debate.

If you really wanted a debate you would state your own opinion, instead of just c/p some quote and saying Debate.

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October 15, 2011, 08:56:45 PM
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Americans are the fattest people in the world. Why are you expecting any sort of mobility there?

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October 15, 2011, 09:05:59 PM
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Clearly the children of the current generation will mine fewer bitcoins then their parents. That's not even up for debate. 35.5% of all bitcoins have already been mined. By December 9th of next year 50% of all bitcoins will have been mined.

Therefore, "The biggest indicator for success in a Bitcoin economy is not a level of merit or hard work, but the amount of bitcoin wealth inherited from family members", says Red, a forum troll at bitcointalk.org.

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October 15, 2011, 09:24:26 PM
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Clearly the children of the current generation will mine fewer bitcoins then their parents. That's not even up for debate. 35.5% of all bitcoins have already been mined. By December 9th of next year 50% of all bitcoins will have been mined.

Therefore, "The biggest indicator for success in a Bitcoin economy is not a level of merit or hard work, but the amount of bitcoin wealth inherited from family members", says Red, a forum troll at bitcointalk.org.



It's almost like Bitcoin isn't some magical utopia-bringing technology that will diminish the power of the wealthy and decentralize it, but if actually utilized would very much mirror the societal structure we have now, only instead of having sociopathic "bankers" at the helm it would be narcissistic spergs and creepy horsecock-table builders controlling society.
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October 15, 2011, 09:54:33 PM
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It's almost like Bitcoin isn't some magical utopia-bringing technology that will diminish the power of the wealthy and decentralize it, but if actually utilized would very much mirror the societal structure we have now, only instead of having sociopathic "bankers" at the helm it would be narcissistic spergs and creepy horsecock-table builders controlling society.

A wealthy child with shit for brains will find their wealth soon distributed to the rest of society.

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October 15, 2011, 09:59:24 PM
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A wealthy child with shit for brains will find their wealth soon distributed to the rest of society.

really?


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October 15, 2011, 10:04:32 PM
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A wealthy child with shit for brains will find their wealth soon distributed to the rest of society.

really?




Hell, simply being rich, and having zero other talents, has actually increased her net worth.
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October 15, 2011, 10:07:06 PM
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A wealthy child with shit for brains will find their wealth soon distributed to the rest of society.

really?




Hell, simply being rich, and having zero other talents, has actually increased her net worth.

Hers, or her father's?

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October 15, 2011, 10:09:50 PM
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A wealthy child with shit for brains will find their wealth soon distributed to the rest of society.

really?




Hell, simply being rich, and having zero other talents, has actually increased her net worth.

Hers, or her father's?

Well, both actually, but Paris gets money for making appearances and letting people videotape her, all because she was rich.
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October 15, 2011, 10:12:43 PM
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creepy horsecock-table builders

I really have to ask? WTF is that?


And curiously, Paris Hilton does ok for herself. Forbes had her listed at $7 million a year in product sales in 2006 or so. That probably exceeds the entire bitcoin economy!
http://shop.parishilton.com/
http://www.zappos.com/paris-hilton/UgLDEFoCwxDiAgILCg.zso


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October 15, 2011, 10:19:27 PM
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I think another significant change is that many non-rich people no longer feel that their children are entitled to inherit anything.  People are spending their money in retirement rather than hoarding it to pass on to their kids.  I actually cringe when I see people complaining about how their parents are spending their retirement money.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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October 16, 2011, 05:04:56 AM
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And curiously, Paris Hilton does ok for herself. Forbes had her listed at $7 million a year in product sales in 2006 or so. That probably exceeds the entire bitcoin economy!
http://shop.parishilton.com/
http://www.zappos.com/paris-hilton/UgLDEFoCwxDiAgILCg.zso

Ah, so she's not just a shit for brains, and does know how to make money. Hopefully dady taught her well, so she'll be able to keep giving people things that people want from her. If not, she won't last long.


I was wrong, it was a wolf-thing,

Oh, Rassah Cheesy

That's a ringtailed cat
http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Chester_Magreer

I'm extremely attracted to and admire very strong and courageous people. In the comics, he lost his parents, grew up as an orphan, and used his wits and skills (and loks) to still make an ok life for himself in the end. Now he is strong enough to be flamboyant and girly, i.e. himself, despite what anyone else may think, but is tough enough to defend himself and kick ass if needed. Most people in life just conform, hide their feelings, pretend to be someone they are not, all to gain acceptance of their peers and society. That's too boring, and I like strong, interesting people who aren't boring (even Atlas, despite flaws, is interesting). So that's what made me fall in love with that character, as well as be jealous of his strength.

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