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August 08, 2018, 04:47:55 PM
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Your official name is Neo Finance LTD, right ?

Definitely, The decision for your brand name was not the idea of the year, (before in addition in UK...before their "mysterious disappearance" the team's linkedin profiles indicated that they were in Great Britain))





When you have 5 minutes, you will also give us additional information about Fajing Sun, your advisor.
This guy looks damn good at investing ("One of the first to invest in Paypal") but also  to delete all traces of himself on the web. Cheesy





Seriously guys, stop now...

Even if you are not another scammer (lol), with your 2-week old website and your ghost LinkedIn profiles, you really want to raise between....23 and 61 million USD?


How's the weather in Russia?




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August 09, 2018, 09:22:33 AM
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Spoiler: we warn in advance, we are not going to answer several times the same questions. Read the previous messages, let's save both your and our time together, but nevertheless, thank in advance the participants of the discussion, for having chosen the time and spent it on our project.
We at once prepared a list of answers to all the previous questions. Unfortunately we can not respond right away, because the working group currently has priority on the marketing component and development.
We begin to catch up. Github and FB begin to fill with news, the life of the project is gaining momentum. The whole working group got acquainted with the incoming questions: during the discussion, they laughed and were cautious, made some conclusions. Did not expect such a hot meeting with experts and critics, but apparently the current situation in the ICO products market makes itself felt.

Let's proceed to the answers:
1. Where is your company registered?
While we are in the developer mode, we have the right to work without registration. At the moment, several organizations are taking up our initial sponsorship.

2. Your official name is Neo Finance LTD, right?
NO! NOT PROPERLY! Why did not you wait for an answer to your question, you started the topic that we are copying the company from England?
We did not state in one source of Crypto-Media, in the documentation and descriptions that we are a registered company with the name "NEO FINANCE Ltd.", or did you make such a conclusion after seeing LTD in LinkedIn? This is a social network in which any person can specify even the potential name of their future company. Or you claim that we will not be able to register an organization called NEO Finance Ltd. it already exists and no one will allow us to do this? And the more so, we did not in any way indicate our attitude to the company NEO Finance, registered in England under number 07165501! Our road map shows the company's registration
Also, we have not used one text or one wording of anything from the site of this organization. We have different types of activities. That is why, the user of the Bitcointalk forum, with the nickname Hellmouth42, we ask you not to relate us to this organization any more and to agitate the other readers of this forum to an expression of negativity in this regard!

3. Where can we find your office?
Why do you need our exact location? Do you want to come to visit us for a meeting? Well, the headquarters of our project with developers is located in England, in London. If you have a great desire to meet with us personally, then we invite you to the seminar. We are pleased to announce the forthcoming first presentation of Neo MEETing in London on 01.09.2018. Theme of the meeting: product presentation and technical solutions. It was decided to meet in a cozy atmosphere of the restaurant "Dar Marrakesh" located at 422 Edgware Rd, Marylebone. For participation, please send an e-mail to info@neofinance.io, indicate "Warm welcome" in the subject line, and provide your contact details in the body of the letter.

4. Best marketing techniques? we are in 2018 not in 1990!
Ok, next time we will definitely turn to you for help, in case we need consultations on the topic of "Design". You have a wonderful taste.

5. So according to you, you are fine with stealing identity pictures just because you "do not consider it objectively and not applicable to your project" and you "analyzed" a photo…
As for the photographs allegedly taken from the runoff and their attitude to public coverage of personal life, we already answered earlier. Read the previous posts. Save both our and your time.

6. Their github account is new and empty (and they claim the project is in active development!)
At the moment we will post the work in github that we want, we have several accounts and enough material for further publication, everything has its time. You will no doubt be able to observe the course of action, do not worry.

7. I dare the ICO owner (scammer) to make live video AMA with all the team members to prove that their team and ICO is legit
 Since when did the video with the team become an indispensable condition for the crowdsfunding of the product through ICO?

8. Until then, this is a SCAM ICO for me
We respect the opinion of everyone, regardless of what it is: positive or negative. You are the only user who managed to correctly express their attitude to our project, and not the ratio for the rest.

9. ... about the Fajing Sun, your advisor.This guy looks damn good at investing ("One of the first to invest in Paypal") but also to delete all traces of himself on the web.
I quote the answer that we published earlier: "Take for example the fact: how do you think how many crypto-billionaires try to stay anonymous, because can fall under further pressure from the state authorities of the country of their stay or the country of their business.
No, we do not in any way claim that our team uses extraneous names, surnames, photographs and so on. We simply adhere to the rules of conducting a quality business that can lead our company to success and provide you with a developed product that can change the world and make it richer. "

10. How's the weather in Russia?
We think, judging by the weather forecast - the same as we have at the moment, a little cooler))) And since you can always drive "Find the weather in Russia" in the search bar of your browser and find many websites and online services on this topic. And still there is an opportunity to watch the weather for several days in a row.

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August 09, 2018, 04:04:56 PM
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2. Your official name is Neo Finance LTD, right?
NO! NOT PROPERLY! Why did not you wait for an answer to your question, you started the topic that we are copying the company from England?
We did not state in one source of Crypto-Media, in the documentation and descriptions that we are a registered company with the name "NEO FINANCE Ltd.", or did you make such a conclusion after seeing LTD in LinkedIn? This is a social network in which any person can specify even the potential name of their future company. Or you claim that we will not be able to register an organization called NEO Finance Ltd. it already exists and no one will allow us to do this? And the more so, we did not in any way indicate our attitude to the company NEO Finance, registered in England under number 07165501! Our road map shows the company's registration
Also, we have not used one text or one wording of anything from the site of this organization. We have different types of activities. That is why, the user of the Bitcointalk forum, with the nickname Hellmouth42, we ask you not to relate us to this organization any more and to agitate the other readers of this forum to an expression of negativity in this regard!

This is the name of your company that appears in your WP and on your OWN LinkedIn page, what more can you say?
When you created your "brand", nobody took 10 minutes on google to do some checking?

Alternative Universe, somewhere, not in UK, 3 weeks ago:

"Okay guys, I checked, NEO Finance is probably not a good idea...: they already exist and in the UK they're crooks!..." "Damn....Okay! Let's call ourselves Bit Connect (ltd.)!", "brilliant!"






By the way, why did the team's LinkedIn pages disappear?

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9. ... about the Fajing Sun, your advisor.This guy looks damn good at investing ("One of the first to invest in Paypal") but also to delete all traces of himself on the web.
I quote the answer that we published earlier: "Take for example the fact: how do you think how many crypto-billionaires try to stay anonymous, because can fall under further pressure from the state authorities of the country of their stay or the country of their business.
No, we do not in any way claim that our team uses extraneous names, surnames, photographs and so on. We simply adhere to the rules of conducting a quality business that can lead our company to success and provide you with a developed product that can change the world and make it richer. "


WORST. ARGUMENT. EVER

"crypto-Billionaires" who want to stay "anonymous" ....don't become advisors for ICO. Real life.

In short, it is useless to spend more time anyway: you have stolen photos and lied about the identity of your team/advisors, the rest is background.




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August 09, 2018, 04:25:48 PM
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Spoiler: we warn in advance, we are not going to answer several times the same questions. Read the previous messages, let's save both your and our time together, but nevertheless, thank in advance the participants of the discussion, for having chosen the time and spent it on our project.
We at once prepared a list of answers to all the previous questions. Unfortunately we can not respond right away, because the working group currently has priority on the marketing component and development.
We begin to catch up. Github and FB begin to fill with news, the life of the project is gaining momentum. The whole working group got acquainted with the incoming questions: during the discussion, they laughed and were cautious, made some conclusions. Did not expect such a hot meeting with experts and critics, but apparently the current situation in the ICO products market makes itself felt.

Let's proceed to the answers:
1. Where is your company registered?
While we are in the developer mode, we have the right to work without registration. At the moment, several organizations are taking up our initial sponsorship.

2. Your official name is Neo Finance LTD, right?
NO! NOT PROPERLY! Why did not you wait for an answer to your question, you started the topic that we are copying the company from England?
We did not state in one source of Crypto-Media, in the documentation and descriptions that we are a registered company with the name "NEO FINANCE Ltd.", or did you make such a conclusion after seeing LTD in LinkedIn? This is a social network in which any person can specify even the potential name of their future company. Or you claim that we will not be able to register an organization called NEO Finance Ltd. it already exists and no one will allow us to do this? And the more so, we did not in any way indicate our attitude to the company NEO Finance, registered in England under number 07165501! Our road map shows the company's registration
Also, we have not used one text or one wording of anything from the site of this organization. We have different types of activities. That is why, the user of the Bitcointalk forum, with the nickname Hellmouth42, we ask you not to relate us to this organization any more and to agitate the other readers of this forum to an expression of negativity in this regard!

3. Where can we find your office?
Why do you need our exact location? Do you want to come to visit us for a meeting? Well, the headquarters of our project with developers is located in England, in London. If you have a great desire to meet with us personally, then we invite you to the seminar. We are pleased to announce the forthcoming first presentation of Neo MEETing in London on 01.09.2018. Theme of the meeting: product presentation and technical solutions. It was decided to meet in a cozy atmosphere of the restaurant "Dar Marrakesh" located at 422 Edgware Rd, Marylebone. For participation, please send an e-mail to info@neofinance.io, indicate "Warm welcome" in the subject line, and provide your contact details in the body of the letter.

4. Best marketing techniques? we are in 2018 not in 1990!
Ok, next time we will definitely turn to you for help, in case we need consultations on the topic of "Design". You have a wonderful taste.

5. So according to you, you are fine with stealing identity pictures just because you "do not consider it objectively and not applicable to your project" and you "analyzed" a photo…
As for the photographs allegedly taken from the runoff and their attitude to public coverage of personal life, we already answered earlier. Read the previous posts. Save both our and your time.

6. Their github account is new and empty (and they claim the project is in active development!)
At the moment we will post the work in github that we want, we have several accounts and enough material for further publication, everything has its time. You will no doubt be able to observe the course of action, do not worry.

7. I dare the ICO owner (scammer) to make live video AMA with all the team members to prove that their team and ICO is legit
 Since when did the video with the team become an indispensable condition for the crowdsfunding of the product through ICO?


8. Until then, this is a SCAM ICO for me
We respect the opinion of everyone, regardless of what it is: positive or negative. You are the only user who managed to correctly express their attitude to our project, and not the ratio for the rest.

9. ... about the Fajing Sun, your advisor.This guy looks damn good at investing ("One of the first to invest in Paypal") but also to delete all traces of himself on the web.
I quote the answer that we published earlier: "Take for example the fact: how do you think how many crypto-billionaires try to stay anonymous, because can fall under further pressure from the state authorities of the country of their stay or the country of their business.
No, we do not in any way claim that our team uses extraneous names, surnames, photographs and so on. We simply adhere to the rules of conducting a quality business that can lead our company to success and provide you with a developed product that can change the world and make it richer. "

10. How's the weather in Russia?
We think, judging by the weather forecast - the same as we have at the moment, a little cooler))) And since you can always drive "Find the weather in Russia" in the search bar of your browser and find many websites and online services on this topic. And still there is an opportunity to watch the weather for several days in a row.


You evaded to reply single answer straight forward
You should have atleast posted some verifiable information
Why is not possible to arrange a live AMA with few team members about the ICO ? (It is not required,bit since the ICO as many redflags)
You should have atleast said,we will certainly  try to do it,but instead you want avoid it.

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August 09, 2018, 08:24:49 PM
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Why is not possible to arrange a live AMA with few team members about the ICO ? (It is not required,bit since the ICO as many redflags)

Because they want to collect $60M anonymously, they have CEO, CTO, COO but they don't have company, they don't want to say to investors who their executive officers are although they used fake pictures(names Huh)  of the team , they don't want to make video to show to investors that they are serious, they don't want to say where their office is located but they want to meat in some restaurant in a month from now(but you have to send them email with your contact details  Roll Eyes).

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Which organizations?
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August 09, 2018, 08:37:48 PM
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Why do you need our exact location? Do you want to come to visit us for a meeting? Well, the headquarters of our project with developers is located in England, in London. If you have a great desire to meet with us personally, then we invite you to the seminar. We are pleased to announce the forthcoming first presentation of Neo MEETing in London on 01.09.2018. Theme of the meeting: product presentation and technical solutions. It was decided to meet in a cozy atmosphere of the restaurant "Dar Marrakesh" located at 422 Edgware Rd, Marylebone. For participation, please send an e-mail to info@neofinance.io, indicate "Warm welcome" in the subject line, and provide your contact details in the body of the letter.

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What time do we expect your presentation to start? I'm sure they will love to meet you.

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August 09, 2018, 09:10:05 PM
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. So according to you, you are fine with stealing identity pictures just because you "do not consider it objectively and not applicable to your project" and you "analyzed" a photo…
As for the photographs allegedly taken from the runoff and their attitude to public coverage of personal life, we already answered earlier. Read the previous posts. Save both our and your time.

Yes, Yes, Yes. I understand you steal photos from someone else on the WWW just because you think it looks great, and you're okay with the consequences! Don't try to spin the problem "Save both our and your time."


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Best marketing techniques? we are in 2018 not in 1990!
Ok, next time we will definitely turn to you for help, in case we need consultations on the topic of "Design". You have a wonderful taste.

Oh man, no way! I don't want to find me listed on your website with a name found with FakeNameGenerator and a personal photo taken from a doctors profile directory or Pixabay.

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August 10, 2018, 11:37:17 AM
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At least we know the origin of the project - Russia, judging by the last two shill comments.  Grin

Too bad they not gonna make it for Dar Marrakesh meetup, NCA agents would've love to meet you.

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I forgot to mention, Beadieri=Madelott, same guy.

I would like to ask, where do you report cyber crime in Russia?

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August 10, 2018, 04:51:38 PM
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Which expert would like to have his name tied with the photo of someone else? Using your logic it would be ok to create an ICO using Kardashian selfies.

It`s really a very unusual team`s approach, but I believe that it`s still premature to draw any conclusions if this project is a scam, or not. It will be clear only during the project development. And it`s ridiculous to rely on some photos and weird design in your argumentation. Let`s give the guys a chance to show what they really can! The time will show.
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Which expert would like to have his name tied with the photo of someone else? Using your logic it would be ok to create an ICO using Kardashian selfies.

It`s really a very unusual team`s approach, but I believe that it`s still premature to draw any conclusions if this project is a scam, or not. It will be clear only during the project development. And it`s ridiculous to rely on some photos and weird design in your argumentation. Let`s give the guys a chance to show what they really can! The time will show.

How is it ridiculous? It's a huge red flag, enough to avoid the project, no matter if there is a product developed later. I am used with projects and people using fake photos and steal identity (not related to crypto) Trust me in 99,99999% of the cases it turns out to be just a scam or a pyramid scheme.
This  scam has so many red flags, nothing is done properly, they just created a website in hurry (that's why it'a very ugly one despite their designer follow the "best marketing methods" <=  Cheesy ) created some social network pages and voila!

edit:
see the URL name (not the content) https://neofinance.io/#baunty  ....baunty
see the right menu with "Adwiser"  Cheesy

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nothing is done properly, they just created a website in hurry (that's why it'a very ugly one despite their designer follow the "best marketing methods" <=  Cheesy ) created some social network pages and voila!

So what if the site has been recently registered? Have a look at the roadmap! It`s absolutely clear that there was a platform concept development as such from April to July! This is the first step of the project existence to my mind, and Neo Finance doesn’t even hide this! They fairly wrote about this.
It`s unclear why the website should be old enough if the idea itself was born a few months ago.

no matter if there is a product developed later

Really? I have always thought that the product is the main indicator for investing money. No product - no investments. That`s how I see it.
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nothing is done properly, they just created a website in hurry (that's why it'a very ugly one despite their designer follow the "best marketing methods" <=  Cheesy ) created some social network pages and voila!

So what if the site has been recently registered? Have a look at the roadmap! It`s absolutely clear that there was a platform concept development as such from April to July! This is the first step of the project existence to my mind, and Neo Finance doesn’t even hide this! They fairly wrote about this.
It`s unclear why the website should be old enough if the idea itself was born a few months ago.

no matter if there is a product developed later

Really? I have always thought that the product is the main indicator for investing money. No product - no investments. That`s how I see it.

product is the main indicator for investing money
Are you kidding me?  Cheesy Can you give as an example few projects which finished their product after ico and token was increased on exchanges?)
Nobody cares on the product! No one dApp can start due to lack of good(fast+safety) blockchain. No one product for real business can start due to lack of legalization from government, etc. So nobody cares on the product. For now the main indicators are hyip(popularity) score, strong marketing team, strong development team, strong advisers(for the best listings), project thematics and state of the crypto market.

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Nobody cares on the product!  

I`ve never heard such a foolhardy thing in my entire life.

The best example of such kind of projects is Ripple and its ICO. I bought the tokens when they cost $0.02 per one. It was last year and they had a real product - a global platform for network of banks that send and receive payments.
Santander, UniCredit, UBS, ReiseBank, CIBC were among the latest banks that adopted Ripple algorithm.
After that the price of the Ripple token was more than $3.

That`s what a real product mean.

Just the same about Neo Finance.

There can be (as you say) an amazing, highly professional team that sells air, and can be a team that`s  developing a real product. I choose the last one since it's a product that has a real value, not an amazing team.  


 
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From sharing about your favorite movie, favorite book, game and how to lose weight or make friends you casually decided to shill for a scam project, now why would you do that, obvious shill is obvious.


I bought the tokens when they cost $0.02 per one.
After that the price of the Ripple token was more than $3.


So why do you need to create a scam project then? (for reference Camir=Beadieri=Madelott=BlueWhales=Bounty_NEO Finance), my understanding is you sold at ATH.  Grin




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@Camir and @Madelott

You are both funny. Deleting all your previous posts in the forum and start to post only here in this thread. Stop to think people are naive because it' s not the case. Your accounts are quite suspicious, I wouldn't be surprised if both accounts are owned by the same person And your arguments have a very low level.

Yes, the website is ugly it's not a secret, it takes 15 minutes to make the same shit. From where the designer learned to design

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From sharing about your favorite movie, favorite book, game and how to lose weight or make friends you casually decided to shill for a scam project, now why would you do that, obvious shill is obvious.

Being an ordinary man, I`m interested in everyday life`s topics for discussion. Like you, I also watch movies, read books, play games and take decisions for investments.
Instead of making argumentation and leading a discussion, you`ve just enlisted almost everybody in the shill list. Good of you! Very strong position!  Grin
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How often do you see people use this comma symbol
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Well, it turns out to be very popular... Cheesy







To not be completely off-topic, NEO Finance has postponed the launch of their ICO due to smart contract issues.  Cry

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Santander, UniCredit, UBS, ReiseBank, CIBC were among the latest banks that adopted Ripple algorithm.
That`s what a real product mean.
Yep, they only tested Ripple algorithm. But now no one use it. Where is Ripple now? Same like other altcoins. 


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Just the same about Neo Finance.

There can be (as you say) an amazing, highly professional team that sells air, and can be a team that`s  developing a real product. I choose the last one since it's a product that has a real value, not an amazing team.  

Whaaaaaat?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
same about Neo Finance; a product that has a real value
What do you smoke?) It's scam, dude.

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Yep, they only tested Ripple algorithm. But now no one use it. Where is Ripple now? Same like other altcoins.  



Oh, boy, really? So, where is so popular and powerful Bitcoin right now? Same like the whole market   Cheesy

You are funny, too. Grin
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