TenDrawBTC
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March 10, 2014, 09:57:37 PM |
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Ponzimatic, the most fair, legit ponzi no-one uses. Everyone just loves the scammers to much
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boumalo
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March 10, 2014, 10:13:55 PM |
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Ponzimatic, the most fair, legit ponzi no-one uses. Everyone just loves the scammers to much
There are other ponzis that don't sc.ams, including ponzicoin ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=474730.0) I am interested by Ponzimatic but I need to know when the next round is and if we can get 80% back even after the round ended
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williamj2543
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March 10, 2014, 10:14:54 PM |
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Boy ponzicoin was a mess. It got hacked but the owner returned it all.
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TenDrawBTC
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March 10, 2014, 10:29:30 PM |
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"When you deposit you pay out the oldest member of the queue and are added to the bottom. You then move up with each deposit someone else makes until you reach the top and are paid out. If not enough deposits come in to cover a payout for 48 hours the game will be reset and all will be refunded 80%" What else do you need to know? Cmon guys. http://ponzimatic.net/just in case you tried .com
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boumalo
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March 10, 2014, 10:39:23 PM |
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Where does the 80% come from?
I will deposit on next round if I don't forget, the new round starts 48h after the last payout so it would start March 12 17:08 if there is no payout in the meantime? There has been a 0.02 payout today
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TenDrawBTC
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March 10, 2014, 10:44:33 PM |
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So why are you waiting till the next round?
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boumalo
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March 10, 2014, 10:46:28 PM |
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So why are you waiting till the next round?
Because my odds of getting paid are better, I will redeposit my winnings but I need to get a feeling of the game first, I have very bad records of depositing and be the last deposit You didn't answer my question about the 80%, do you know how the money is collected
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TenDrawBTC
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March 10, 2014, 10:51:10 PM |
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I understand this ponzi gradually collects bitcoin to pay out the oldest transaction. If all fails it automatically refunds 80% to all. That's it, quite simple.
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niudala
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March 11, 2014, 03:08:08 AM |
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Maybe too "gradually "
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TenDrawBTC
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March 11, 2014, 03:20:20 PM |
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Yes, I also just sent 0.000911 for a 80% refund - 10+ confirmations and nothing
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niudala
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March 11, 2014, 03:26:08 PM |
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No 0.000911 at the list. Another scam ?
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ponzimatic (OP)
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March 11, 2014, 05:29:32 PM |
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At least one person has used the 911 feature successfully. It needs to be precisely 0.000911 btc and will not show up in the queue. I have seen some deposits of less than 0.000911 (your wallet probably took the miners fee off the amount) Please send a transaction ID so I can look into it. Also I use the blochain.info API so no payouts happen while the API is down. https://blockchain.info/
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boumalo
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March 11, 2014, 05:52:28 PM |
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At least one person has used the 911 feature successfully. It needs to be precisely 0.000911 btc and will not show up in the queue. I have seen some deposits of less than 0.000911 (your wallet probably took the miners fee off the amount) Please send a transaction ID so I can look into it. Also I use the blochain.info API so no payouts happen while the API is down. https://blockchain.info/Can you explain precisely how you fund the 80% back because there isn't enough in the wallet to payback 80% at the moment Please confirm the start of the new round, it should be March 12 17:08
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ponzimatic (OP)
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March 11, 2014, 05:59:54 PM Last edit: March 11, 2014, 06:21:31 PM by ponzimatic |
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At least one person has used the 911 feature successfully. It needs to be precisely 0.000911 btc and will not show up in the queue. I have seen some deposits of less than 0.000911 (your wallet probably took the miners fee off the amount) Please send a transaction ID so I can look into it. Also I use the blochain.info API so no payouts happen while the API is down. https://blockchain.info/Can you explain precisely how you fund the 80% back because there isn't enough in the wallet to payback 80% at the moment Please confirm the start of the new round, it should be March 12 17:08 80% of 0.36824726 is 0.294597808 so there is enough in the wallet. When 24 hours have passed from the last payout the timer will automatically begin a 24 hour countdown. I will now change it to last deposit instead of payout. So the 24 hr countdown will start soon at 03/11/2014 18:55 GMT and next round will start at 03/12/2014 18:55 GMT 120% / 80% worked well to begin with when the amounts started small but it's true that it did get slow later on even though deposits were coming in. Since only 20% of deposits were used to pay out and each deposit needed 40% to pay out this was equivalent in speed to a 200% no refund ponzi which is a bit extreme but a nice experiment. I'm thinking next round will be 120% / 50%. So 50% will be used to pay out a needed 70% of older deposits which is close to equivalent in speed to a 140% ponzi with no refund. I don't want to abandon the refund completely even though it slows things down. For example I usually deposit until it resets so I always eventually lose but when I have a refund like now I will come out slightly ahead instead.
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boumalo
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March 11, 2014, 06:27:55 PM |
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At least one person has used the 911 feature successfully. It needs to be precisely 0.000911 btc and will not show up in the queue. I have seen some deposits of less than 0.000911 (your wallet probably took the miners fee off the amount) Please send a transaction ID so I can look into it. Also I use the blochain.info API so no payouts happen while the API is down. https://blockchain.info/Can you explain precisely how you fund the 80% back because there isn't enough in the wallet to payback 80% at the moment Please confirm the start of the new round, it should be March 12 17:08 80% of 0.36824726 is 0.294597808 so there is enough in the wallet. When 24 hours have passed from the last payout the timer will automatically begin a 24 hour countdown. I will now change it to last deposit instead of payout. So the 24 hr countdown will start soon at 03/11/2014 18:55 GMT and next round will start at 03/12/2014 18:55 GMT 120% / 80% worked well to begin with when the amounts started small but it's true that it did get slow later on even though deposits were coming in. Since only 20% of deposits were used to pay out and each deposit needed 40% to pay out this was equivalent in speed to a 200% no refund ponzi which is a bit extreme but a nice experiment. I'm thinking next round will be 120% / 50%. So 50% will be used to pay out a needed 70% of older deposits which is close to equivalent in speed to a 140% ponzi with no refund. I don't want to abandon the refund completely even though it slows things down. For example I usually deposit until it resets so I always eventually lose but when I have a refund like now I will come out slightly ahead instead. It is very clear and it was probably pretty nice to know that you are only risking 20% of your deposit 120%/50% seems better or implement the payment of 120% for last 3 or last 5deposits that would drive deposits since you don't risk anything by depositing last 24h after the last deposit may be exploited because someone can add 24h to the timer by only depositing 0.001, maybe you could say 24h after the last deposit of 0.005 or more or after the last payout
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TenDrawBTC
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March 11, 2014, 06:29:58 PM |
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So do all those who have deposited get refunded at the end of this round? Seeing as you can't change the rules within a round?
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ponzimatic (OP)
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March 11, 2014, 06:59:41 PM Last edit: March 11, 2014, 07:23:09 PM by ponzimatic |
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So do all those who have deposited get refunded at the end of this round? Seeing as you can't change the rules within a round?
Yes 80% refund to all who deposit when those rules are active. Fixed a problem I saw with one manual refund. If any of you have problems send me tx id or address and description of problem.
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